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Posted: 3/28/2017 2:35:04 PM EDT
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Delta Elite Rail Gun...it's all I can do to stop myself.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 2:42:08 PM EDT
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Remington has a long slide version of there R1 in 10mm Auto.
https://www.remington.com/handguns/model-1911-r1/1911-r1-10mm-hunter |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Remington has a long slide version of there R1 in 10mm Auto. https://www.remington.com/handguns/model-1911-r1/1911-r1-10mm-hunter |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 2:54:23 PM EDT
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The new Colt Delta Elite rail gun would be my choice.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 4:22:44 PM EDT
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I would personally avoid the Iver Johnsons. I haven't seen one yet that impressed me. I think the RIA is a better value.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 4:30:07 PM EDT
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Sig Tac Ops 10mm rail gun.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719014167/Firearms/Handguns/Sig+Sauer/Sig+Sauer+1911+10mm+Tacops In use by Special Peeps everywhere. 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 4:48:26 PM EDT
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10mm is a punishing round. If you're not going to get a Glock 20, then I'd say the Delta.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 4:54:37 PM EDT
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I like the ergonomics of the Coonan, and they are supposed to be shipping a 10mm soon, but I don't think that will meet your price point. Of your list, I'd probably get the Colt, just because of the red triangle.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 5:16:25 PM EDT
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What I don't like about the Delta is that they use an unramped barrel. Personally I like a little more case support with hot 10mm loads.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:04:07 PM EDT
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I would go with the sig
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:04:30 PM EDT
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RIA Tactical...save the money, you'll need it for ammo
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:18:24 PM EDT
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Besides the pricepoint of the RIA, another advantage is they come in a doublestack version as well.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:27:24 PM EDT
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Sig has a 10mm version of their TACOPS 1911.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 8:21:04 PM EDT
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You can get a Dan Wesson Silverback in their Blemished program for about $1,500, I did. It's an outstanding 1911 10mm. I've had Colt Delta Elite 10mm as well as Kimber Custom TLE/RL II 10mm and the Kimber is a better pistol than the Colt. The Colt Delta Elite did not have a light rail and had standard trigger and hammer. My Dan Wesson and the Kimber both have night sights, match triggers, and match hammers right out of the box. The Dan Wesson Silverback is a better 1911 than either the Colt or the Kimber and is worth the higher price tag. That said, my edc pistol is a Night Hawk Custom Recon Enforcer 10mm. I prefer to insure my life with the best pistol I could buy and the NHC fits the bill nicely. The action, trigger, accuracy, and reliability of the NHC is better than the Dan Wesson, Colt, or Kimber.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 8:25:49 PM EDT
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I second the dan Wessons,I have 4 of them all great guns
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:08:34 PM EDT
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I just picked up one of the new Delta Elites recently. I have quite a few 10mm pistols (Glock 20/29/40, SIG P220, and a S&W 1076), and I think the Delta is my new favorite.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't trust a bargain-brand or overseas-made 1911 to hold up to 10mm loads over time. I may very well be wrong, but I'm not spending money to find out. As far as the unramped barrel, I don't plan on shooting nuclear loads through my Delta. SAAMI spec full power (200gr @ 1200 / 180gr @ 1250 or so, as far as I'm concerned) is good enough for me. Any more than that, and I'll take one of my .41/.44 mag S&Ws or a rifle. I plan on fitting a flat-bottom Harrison firing pin stop to my DE and stocking up on replacement recoil and hammer springs, as well as the stock polymer guide rods and calling it a day. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 3:27:49 AM EDT
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I have a Delta Goldcup and a RIA 10mm. If you can afford the Colt get it. There is something about a Colt 1911. That said, I have no regrets whatsoever getting a RIA. That thing is a lot of value for the money. If I had it over though, I would get the RIA Long slide 10mm. In the thread of high round counts handguns used for rental at Battlefield Vegas, the owner Ron had a lot of good things to say about RIA pistols. I agree with what he said.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 8:24:32 AM EDT
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What I don't like about the Delta is that they use an unramped barrel. Personally I like a little more case support with hot 10mm loads. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 9:06:02 AM EDT
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I have the Iver Johnson 6" 1911 in .45 and it's a very nice shooting pistol . There is now a stainless version in 10 mm 6" .
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Posted: 3/29/2017 9:10:25 AM EDT
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I would personally avoid the Iver Johnsons. I haven't seen one yet that impressed me. I think the RIA is a better value. Which Iver Johnson pistols have you shot ? I have shot a 6" and a 5" and both have been flawless through 200 rds. each . I know that's not a high round count but so far I'm impressed with fit , finish and function . |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 9:20:34 AM EDT
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That's why I suggested Sig's 10mm TacOps railed pistol in my first post above. Ramped barrel with good chamber support, and well-sprung. The rail adds a bit of center-forward weight, in addition to giving the user a light option. Sig night sights, plus it comes with like, 4 magazines in the case. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What I don't like about the Delta is that they use an unramped barrel. Personally I like a little more case support with hot 10mm loads. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. It's a damned shame that CZ/Dan Wesson only did a limited run on their 1911 Commander Bob Tail. I have to admit if I were to come across one that was in good shape I'd be willing to pay up to get it! I would almost have to! Check it out Here! |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 9:54:18 AM EDT
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Nick, you make some good points! If I were in the market right now it would be between the Sig or a Tanfoglio 10mil; But I would be leaning harder on the Sig. The Tanfoglio line while being my favorite ergonomically and looks wise; I don't know how long one would hold up to any loads even close to max specs. It's a damned shame that CZ/Dan Wesson only did a limited run on their 1911 Commander Bob Tail. I have to admit if I were to come across one that was in good shape I'd be willing to pay up to get it! I would almost have to! Check it out Here! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What I don't like about the Delta is that they use an unramped barrel. Personally I like a little more case support with hot 10mm loads. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. It's a damned shame that CZ/Dan Wesson only did a limited run on their 1911 Commander Bob Tail. I have to admit if I were to come across one that was in good shape I'd be willing to pay up to get it! I would almost have to! Check it out Here! On the CZ/Tanfoglio double-stack design, ... the problem with Tanfoglio's 10mm Witnesses is really the lack of ready aftermarket support, like swapping in night sights or grips, as well as reports of recurring QC issues. On the CZ pistols, a few years back someone posted a "teaser" YouTube vid that seemed to suggest CZ was going to bring out a 10mm version of the 97B. I've always preferred CZ's QC over Tanfoglio's anyway, and that would be especially true in anything 10mm, but for whatever reason CZ never produced a 10mm 97B. I'd thought that maybe since Sig is now marketing 5 10mms (one 1911 & 4 P220s), that would spur competitors, like CZ, to get off the fence and give us a few 10mm variants, ... at least one of those being a double-stack 10mm off the big 97B's design. ... Guess we'll see.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:08:13 AM EDT
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That's why I suggested Sig's 10mm TacOps railed pistol in my first post above. Ramped barrel with good chamber support, and well-sprung. The rail adds a bit of center-forward weight, in addition to giving the user a light option. Sig night sights, plus it comes with like, 4 magazines in the case. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 11:53:43 AM EDT
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Which Iver Johnson pistols have you shot ? I have shot a 6" and a 5" and both have been flawless through 200 rds. each . I know that's not a high round count but so far I'm impressed with fit , finish and function . |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 3:51:47 PM EDT
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Doesn't someone around here have one? I thought I saw someone post pics of theirs about a week ago? I'm really looking hard at one as well. 
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Posted: 3/29/2017 5:32:08 PM EDT
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Yep, a DW 10mm Commander bobtail would be sweet. Nice & compact. On the CZ/Tanfoglio double-stack design, ... the problem with Tanfoglio's 10mm Witnesses is really the lack of ready aftermarket support, like swapping in night sights or grips, as well as reports of recurring QC issues. On the CZ pistols, a few years back someone posted a "teaser" YouTube vid that seemed to suggest CZ was going to bring out a 10mm version of the 97B. I've always preferred CZ's QC over Tanfoglio's anyway, and that would be especially true in anything 10mm, but for whatever reason CZ never produced a 10mm 97B. I'd thought that maybe since Sig is now marketing 5 10mms (one 1911 & 4 P220s), that would spur competitors, like CZ, to get off the fence and give us a few 10mm variants, ... at least one of those being a double-stack 10mm off the big 97B's design. ... Guess we'll see. 
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Posted: 3/29/2017 5:40:50 PM EDT
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Yes , I have one and love it. I also have a Delta elite and a couple tanfoglio 10's plus a couple others. http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q637/boesep01/IMAG1833_zpsxvu7tyq3.jpg |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 9:55:04 PM EDT
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To me, the best 1911 10mm made today is the STI Nitro. Certainly a Sig 1911 would be a close, close second.
Given Colt's long, sordid history of uneven QC, no way would *I* spend that sort of coin on a Delta. RIA is worth a look if you don't wish for top tier refinement. They shoot ok, but they're not "smooth" enough for me to keep them. My .o2 |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 10:29:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/31/2017 10:57:46 PM EDT
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I love my Tacops 10mm.
My only issue with the Colt is the unramped barrel. Otherwise, I would have seriously considered it. The DW Razorback is a great option too but it's $1500+. And don't forget the Sig P220 10mm if you want a P Series style pistol. They have excellent case support, too. |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 11:16:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/1/2017 10:04:58 PM EDT
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Good looking gun, I like the subtle styling touches like the tri-top and the bull nose. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:11:06 PM EDT
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I saw that. Should have mentioned I am trying to keep it under 1K. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 5:54:12 PM EDT
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I never heard of the CZ (Tease) with a 10mm version. The 97B would make a superb 10mm host because it really soaks up the recoil of standard Federal HST and Gold Dot 230 grain ammo... * * * But the 97B would really come to it's own with a factory 10mm model. I hope CZ takes it from [tease mode] and puts it into at least a limited run production series. * * * Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep, a DW 10mm Commander bobtail would be sweet. Nice & compact. On the CZ/Tanfoglio double-stack design, ... the problem with Tanfoglio's 10mm Witnesses is really the lack of ready aftermarket support, like swapping in night sights or grips, as well as reports of recurring QC issues. On the CZ pistols, a few years back someone posted a "teaser" YouTube vid that seemed to suggest CZ was going to bring out a 10mm version of the 97B. I've always preferred CZ's QC over Tanfoglio's anyway, and that would be especially true in anything 10mm, but for whatever reason CZ never produced a 10mm 97B. I'd thought that maybe since Sig is now marketing 5 10mms (one 1911 & 4 P220s), that would spur competitors, like CZ, to get off the fence and give us a few 10mm variants, ... at least one of those being a double-stack 10mm off the big 97B's design. ... Guess we'll see. 
Here's the YouTube "teaser" vid of a CZ 10mm on the 97B-pattern. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK6cFPevmE  Experimental CZ 10mm Not sayin' I'd trade my Sig DA/SA 10mm P220 for one now, but back then it sure looked interesting. In fact, that vid really stirred up a lot of the hard-core 10mm fans who had been longing for a high-end 10mm on the CZ/Bren Ten-ish pattern that wasn't a Tanfoglio Witness (due to QC issues like cracking slides, finicky mags, and other problems, ... not to mention the shitty and attitudinal customer service from Tanfoglio's U.S. Importer, EAA). 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:06:36 PM EDT
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Yes , I have one and love it. I also have a Delta elite and a couple tanfoglio 10's plus a couple others. http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q637/boesep01/IMAG1833_zpsxvu7tyq3.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doesn't someone around here have one? I thought I saw someone post pics of theirs about a week ago? I'm really looking hard at one as well. http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q637/boesep01/IMAG1833_zpsxvu7tyq3.jpg 
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Posted: 4/6/2017 1:23:48 AM EDT
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Good gun at a good price. I think you'll like it.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:30:30 PM EDT
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Dudenal, where've you been?
Here's the YouTube "teaser" vid of a CZ 10mm on the 97B-pattern. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK6cFPevmE  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK6cFPevmE
Not sayin' I'd trade my Sig DA/SA 10mm P220 for one now, but back then it sure looked interesting. In fact, that vid really stirred up a lot of the hard-core 10mm fans who had been longing for a high-end 10mm on the CZ/Bren Ten-ish pattern that wasn't a Tanfoglio Witness (due to QC issues like cracking slides, finicky mags, and other problems, ... not to mention the shitty and attitudinal customer service from Tanfoglio's U.S. Importer, EAA). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep, a DW 10mm Commander bobtail would be sweet. Nice & compact. On the CZ/Tanfoglio double-stack design, ... the problem with Tanfoglio's 10mm Witnesses is really the lack of ready aftermarket support, like swapping in night sights or grips, as well as reports of recurring QC issues. On the CZ pistols, a few years back someone posted a "teaser" YouTube vid that seemed to suggest CZ was going to bring out a 10mm version of the 97B. I've always preferred CZ's QC over Tanfoglio's anyway, and that would be especially true in anything 10mm, but for whatever reason CZ never produced a 10mm 97B. I'd thought that maybe since Sig is now marketing 5 10mms (one 1911 & 4 P220s), that would spur competitors, like CZ, to get off the fence and give us a few 10mm variants, ... at least one of those being a double-stack 10mm off the big 97B's design. ... Guess we'll see.
Here's the YouTube "teaser" vid of a CZ 10mm on the 97B-pattern. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK6cFPevmE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK6cFPevmE
Not sayin' I'd trade my Sig DA/SA 10mm P220 for one now, but back then it sure looked interesting. In fact, that vid really stirred up a lot of the hard-core 10mm fans who had been longing for a high-end 10mm on the CZ/Bren Ten-ish pattern that wasn't a Tanfoglio Witness (due to QC issues like cracking slides, finicky mags, and other problems, ... not to mention the shitty and attitudinal customer service from Tanfoglio's U.S. Importer, EAA). |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 8:42:08 PM EDT
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Nick, you make some good points! If I were in the market right now it would be between the Sig or a Tanfoglio 10mil; But I would be leaning harder on the Sig. The Tanfoglio line while being my favorite ergonomically and looks wise; I don't know how long one would hold up to any loads even close to max specs. It's a damned shame that CZ/Dan Wesson only did a limited run on their 1911 Commander Bob Tail. I have to admit if I were to come across one that was in good shape I'd be willing to pay up to get it! I would almost have to! Check it out Here! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What I don't like about the Delta is that they use an unramped barrel. Personally I like a little more case support with hot 10mm loads. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. It's a damned shame that CZ/Dan Wesson only did a limited run on their 1911 Commander Bob Tail. I have to admit if I were to come across one that was in good shape I'd be willing to pay up to get it! I would almost have to! Check it out Here! |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:30:11 PM EDT
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You do know that if you contact Keith Lawton, VP of Operations for Dan Wesson, that they will do special order requests? You can get that pistol you want if you contact them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What I don't like about the Delta is that they use an unramped barrel. Personally I like a little more case support with hot 10mm loads. Although a Colt Delta carries both the name and the history, the Sig appears to be more robust and durable. It's as if Sig's 1911 designers have actually learned something about the cartridge from its 30-years of existence, and what you need to do to make a 1911-pattern 10mm run right. It's a damned shame that CZ/Dan Wesson only did a limited run on their 1911 Commander Bob Tail. I have to admit if I were to come across one that was in good shape I'd be willing to pay up to get it! I would almost have to! Check it out Here! |
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