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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:54:35 AM EDT

Anyone know when, or if, these will be made available? I know they had the front falling off issue, and contracts to fulfill, which probably setback the release to the public. The lack of finger grooves as well as the upgraded finish really have me wanting one.

Posted: 3/19/2017 12:09:40 PM EDT

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I know they had the front falling off issue,

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Yeah, that's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.

Posted: 3/19/2017 12:38:26 PM EDT

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Hopefully for civilians by next year when I get my next blue label coupon.

Posted: 3/19/2017 4:43:20 PM EDT

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Vickers said the rumor is they will show up at this years NRA show as the Gen-5

Posted: 3/19/2017 6:15:22 PM EDT

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I'm actually looking forward to these. I was meh on the Gen4, and don't own one, but what I've seen of the M... Do want.

Posted: 3/19/2017 9:44:40 PM EDT

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I've heard this from a good source also, can't wait!

Posted: 3/19/2017 9:51:46 PM EDT

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I've heard this from a good source also, can't wait!

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Vickers said the rumor is they will show up at this years NRA show as the Gen-5

I've heard this from a good source also, can't wait!

On a somewhat related note, you said a reliable source informed you about upcoming changes to the USP. At the time, you said you didn't have details.

If you have heard anything since, I would happily accept a PM (if it's still top secret).

Posted: 3/19/2017 9:57:41 PM EDT

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On a somewhat related note, you said a reliable source informed you about upcoming changes to the USP. At the time, you said you didn't have details.

If you have heard anything since, I would happily accept a PM (if it's still top secret).

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This source is MORE reliable, and I'll PM you

Posted: 3/19/2017 10:07:13 PM EDT

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This source is MORE reliable, and I'll PM you

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On a somewhat related note, you said a reliable source informed you about upcoming changes to the USP. At the time, you said you didn't have details.

If you have heard anything since, I would happily accept a PM (if it's still top secret).

This source is MORE reliable, and I'll PM you

Thanks!

Posted: 3/20/2017 12:33:14 AM EDT

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This source is MORE reliable, and I'll PM you

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I'd love to know too...

Posted: 3/20/2017 8:26:22 AM EDT

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I'd love to know too...

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Very high volume dealer here in GA told me about the 42/3 before they were announced(not by model name). At that time he said the bigger guns without finger grooves were in the works...Been a while but he says they're coming!

Posted: 3/20/2017 12:21:04 PM EDT

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I can't wait for the Gen5's to come out and I'm so glad Glock is finally dropping the finger grooves.

That said, I will wait for the initial rush to die down and for the prices settle. I'll be happy to let the "I have to be first in line" guys to do the Beta testing

Posted: 3/20/2017 12:31:47 PM EDT

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Only way I'm getting a glock again is if the M comes out. I hate the groves! I will be there to buy a blue on the first batch they get.

Posted: 3/20/2017 12:37:25 PM EDT

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I think the FBI and PDs already did some of that for 'em.

~Augee

Posted: 3/20/2017 9:32:48 PM EDT

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Looking forward to cheap gen 4 trade ins

Posted: 3/20/2017 9:38:15 PM EDT

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I think the FBI and PDs already did some of that for 'em.

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Good point

Posted: 3/20/2017 11:32:35 PM EDT

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I like the grooves on the G17 but the G19s don't fit my fingers. I would consider a G19 if they do these.

Posted: 3/20/2017 11:41:03 PM EDT

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I like the grooves on the G17 but the G19s don't fit my fingers. I would consider a G19 if they do these.

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They did, but they put that big mag cut out in the bottom of the grip like the Gen 2s had. Yuk.

Posted: 3/21/2017 10:00:53 AM EDT

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I like the grooves on the G17 but the G19s don't fit my fingers. I would consider a G19 if they do these.

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I like the grooves on the G17 but the G19s don't fit my fingers. I would consider a G19 if they do these.

I have the same issue. I filed the grooves off my Gen3 G19 but they seem to have changed them somewhat on the Gen4's because I don't have as much issue with them on the Gen4's?

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They did, but they put that big mag cut out in the bottom of the grip like the Gen 2s had. Yuk.

Yeah, I admit I'm not crazy about that detail

Posted: 3/21/2017 10:17:35 PM EDT

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Hopefully they've fixed the BTF issue on the G19m. I do not get why Glock can't/refuses to fix that issue.

Posted: 3/21/2017 10:24:37 PM EDT

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They did, but they put that big mag cut out in the bottom of the grip like the Gen 2s had. Yuk.

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That and from what I understand no parts compatibility with older Glocks.

Posted: 3/22/2017 10:57:48 AM EDT

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That and from what I understand no parts compatibility with older Glocks.

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That sucks even more than the mag cutout.

Edit: I just read something about mags being different too, but they didn't mention compatibility. If they aren't backwards compatible, I'm completely out.

Posted: 3/22/2017 11:23:18 AM EDT

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That and from what I understand no parts compatibility with older Glocks.

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Whoa, that puts a slight damper on my interest. Means I would wait a bit after general release.

Posted: 3/22/2017 5:25:10 PM EDT

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The mags, sights, and a few other things are compatible between gen 5 and all other gens......recoil Springs are compatible between gen 4 and 5 (I think).

Posted: 3/22/2017 6:13:22 PM EDT

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Recoil springs no.

The M parts are the same design as the 43. I think they're a definite improvement and don't mind incompatibility with the previous gens at all.

Posted: 3/22/2017 9:05:32 PM EDT

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Recoil springs no.

The M parts are the same design as the 43. I think they're a definite improvement and don't mind incompatibility with the previous gens at all.

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BLOCK is finally updating a gun that has been outdated for years and people are complaining that the parts aren't backwards compatable. Wow. . . New design means NEW designed parts. Potentially on the inside, and hopefully so.

Posted: 3/22/2017 10:31:22 PM EDT

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BLOCK is finally updating a gun that has been outdated for years and people are complaining that the parts aren't backwards compatable. Wow. . . New design means NEW designed parts. Potentially on the inside, and hopefully so.

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Recoil springs no.

The M parts are the same design as the 43. I think they're a definite improvement and don't mind incompatibility with the previous gens at all.

BLOCK is finally updating a gun that has been outdated for years and people are complaining that the parts aren't backwards compatable. Wow. . . New design means NEW designed parts. Potentially on the inside, and hopefully so.

So true, good point.

Posted: 3/22/2017 11:50:55 PM EDT

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So true, good point.

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As long as they don't write "GRIP ZONE" in Austrian down the side of it, I might buy one.

Might.

If the mags were compatible that would be nice, but I'm not bitching if new mags are needed.

Posted: 3/23/2017 7:42:48 AM EDT

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Guess I'm an oddball on the M model. I don't see enough difference over the Gen 4 to be real impressed. But after I get to hold and shoot one may change my opinion. Time will tell I guess.

Posted: 3/23/2017 3:22:24 PM EDT

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Guess I'm an oddball on the M model. I don't see enough difference over the Gen 4 to be real impressed. But after I get to hold and shoot one may change my opinion. Time will tell I guess.

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Other than no finger grooves and a beveled slide, they look the same on the outside.

The real change is the trigger group, recoil spring, locking block, barrel, firing pin safety, slide lock, slide lock spring,

The magazines interchange.

Posted: 3/25/2017 4:15:21 AM EDT

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They did, but they put that big mag cut out in the bottom of the grip like the Gen 2s had. Yuk.

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Did they? I thought I saw pics of the 19m without the mag cutout.

Posted: 3/25/2017 7:28:41 AM EDT

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Did they? I thought I saw pics of the 19m without the mag cutout.

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I think you're right unless more changes have taken place. Last pic I saw the 17 had it, 19 didn't.

Posted: 3/25/2017 8:50:59 PM EDT

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Guess I'm an oddball on the M model. I don't see enough difference over the Gen 4 to be real impressed.

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People really, really HATE the damn finger groves.

Posted: 3/25/2017 9:16:25 PM EDT

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People really, really HATE the damn finger groves.

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Yup. I'm one of them. I keep wanting to start a "Who's your favorite stippler?" thread but I REALLY don't want it to turn into a "do it yourself" discussion. I bought a G19 with plans to have Polymer Refined fix the factory defect (finger grooves) but he quit the business. FML.

Posted: 3/25/2017 9:21:22 PM EDT

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Yup. I'm one of them. I keep wanting to start a "Who's your favorite stippler?" thread but I REALLY don't want it to turn into a "do it yourself" discussion. I bought a G19 with plans to have Polymer Refined fix the factory defect (finger grooves) but he quit the business. FML.

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Same here. Look into battlecock tactical. Only downside is the wait.

Posted: 3/25/2017 9:37:33 PM EDT

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People really, really HATE the damn finger groves.

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So fix it

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Posted: 3/26/2017 12:06:48 AM EDT

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I think you're right unless more changes have taken place. Last pic I saw the 17 had it, 19 didn't.

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I really hope so, the big cutout really bugs me on my gen 2, and the gen 3 finger grooves actually fit me perfectly (although I'd still rather not have them).

Not a deal breaker if it does have the cutout, but I'd just prefer it not there.

Posted: 4/1/2017 4:12:19 AM EDT

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I got a Gen 4 in the full size 17 a few years back and like it , I have had no problems with it I like the finger groves can live with it . Was going to try this new Glock out but could not wait when I have a gen4 so went with the Sig 320 so far its been flawless .

Posted: 4/1/2017 10:55:15 AM EDT

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Did they? I thought I saw pics of the 19m without the mag cutout.

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The pictures in this thread and other sources seem to indicate that there are two versions of the 19M out in the wild - both with and without the cutout. Could be that the design has gone through a couple iterations, or it may be that the FBI contract specified certain features that Glock didn't want to put in their production model for other law enforcement agencies.

Seems like moving this thread to the Glock sub-forum would help bring the discussions together.

Posted: 4/6/2017 8:25:01 PM EDT

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http://www.coldborecustom.com/Services.html

This guy does excellent work. Reasonable too. The finger grooves on the 19 are the only ones that bother me. No problems on my G 27 and G 17.

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