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Posted: 5/22/2016 9:28:38 PM EDT
Hey everyone,

I've tried glocks, Kimber 1911s, revolvers, DA semi autos, etc. Over time I've built up a list of things I "like" and am still trying to find that gun that is my "one." On that hunt, I'm eye balling the beretta 92fs or some kind of a sig.

At the heart of it, I'm looking for a high capacity pistol, with double strike ability, that can be decocked (DA/SA), and isn't so snappy like a 9mm glock. As a description of what I find "snappy" or uncomfortable, I can handle the "heavy slow push" of a Kimber 1911 45acp all day long or a .40 s&w sig sauer. My 9mm glock's however just seem to always hurt my wrist if I shoot in any real volume.

I have yet to diagnosis this as caused by 9mm or the light polymer weight of the 9mm guns I shoot.

Is a 92fs heavy enough to soften the snap of 9mm recoil? Would I best with a sig? What caliber do
you think would get me in the ballpark?

Thanks
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 9:42:52 PM EDT
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Hey everyone,

I've tried glocks, Kimber 1911s, revolvers, DA semi autos, etc. Over time I've built up a list of things I "like" and am still trying to find that gun that is my "one." On that hunt, I'm eye balling the beretta 92fs or some kind of a sig.

At the heart of it, I'm looking for a high capacity pistol, with double strike ability, that can be decocked (DA/SA), and isn't so snappy like a 9mm glock. As a description of what I find "snappy" or uncomfortable, I can handle the "heavy slow push" of a Kimber 1911 45acp all day long or a .40 s&w sig sauer. My 9mm glock's however just seem to always hurt my wrist if I shoot in any real volume.

I have yet to diagnosis this as caused by 9mm or the light polymer weight of the 9mm guns I shoot.

Is a 92fs heavy enough to soften the snap of 9mm recoil? Would I best with a sig? What caliber do
you think would get me in the ballpark?

Thanks
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226, 229
USP
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:03:41 PM EDT
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CZ SP01 feels like an easy push. Very little recoil.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:04:30 PM EDT
[#3]
You could try a beretta px4 g model. They are smooth shooters.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:10:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Any CZ DA/SA. PCR is what I ordered from Cajun Gun Works.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:21:36 PM EDT
[#5]
SIG 226, CZ 75 or Beretta 92G.  All great choices
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:28:29 PM EDT
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You could try a beretta px4 g model. They are smooth shooters.
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Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. The bore axis and the rotating barrel make it a beautiful shooter.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:35:05 PM EDT
[#7]
How hard is it to convert a regular PX4 to a G model? The G models seem a little hard to find.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:36:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Shoot 124 grain or 147 grain, less "snappy" than 115 grain.

The grip angle on the glock might be affecting your wrist I suppose.


Any .40 is way snappier in my book.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:49:56 PM EDT
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226, 229
USP
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Hey everyone,

I've tried glocks, Kimber 1911s, revolvers, DA semi autos, etc. Over time I've built up a list of things I "like" and am still trying to find that gun that is my "one." On that hunt, I'm eye balling the beretta 92fs or some kind of a sig.

At the heart of it, I'm looking for a high capacity pistol, with double strike ability, that can be decocked (DA/SA), and isn't so snappy like a 9mm glock. As a description of what I find "snappy" or uncomfortable, I can handle the "heavy slow push" of a Kimber 1911 45acp all day long or a .40 s&w sig sauer. My 9mm glock's however just seem to always hurt my wrist if I shoot in any real volume.

I have yet to diagnosis this as caused by 9mm or the light polymer weight of the 9mm guns I shoot.

Is a 92fs heavy enough to soften the snap of 9mm recoil? Would I best with a sig? What caliber do
you think would get me in the ballpark?

Thanks



226, 229
USP




226/228/229
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 10:56:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Sig P226 in 9mm, or P220 in .45
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 3:33:57 AM EDT
[#11]
CZ 75 SP01
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 4:41:27 AM EDT
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USP full size is what your looking for. The Beretta 92 is a soft shooter also.
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 5:04:10 AM EDT
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P227 has a much softer feel than my 92fs.  P227 carry is in my future.  10 rounds of .45 with 14 rounders available.
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 7:16:40 AM EDT
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decocker conversion
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 9:30:55 AM EDT
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Gen 3 Smith in stainless
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 10:02:19 AM EDT
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Any one of the DA/SA SIGs especially the all stainless models.
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 10:30:41 AM EDT
[#17]
SIG p226
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 10:47:18 AM EDT
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I, too, would recommend the Sigs but that is what I prefer. There is a difference in felt recoil between the different P series models depending on caliber. The .45s feel more like a push back into your hand than a muzzle flip. The .40s feel like they have the most flip. The 9s are somewhere in between.
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 12:08:14 PM EDT
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Softest shooting DA/SA pistol?

SIG P226 Allround;  if you can find one and want to pay for it.

19 rounds In the magazine and one in the gun.
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 12:16:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/23/2016 12:34:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/23/2016 1:00:14 PM EDT
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CZ75B or CZ SP01, Sig 226 or 229.

The wrist issue may be the grip angle from Glock, but not likely as it isn't really that different.
Link Posted: 5/23/2016 10:48:03 PM EDT
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Softest shooting 9mm I own, is my Sig P226 Enhanced Elite!
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 12:09:31 AM EDT
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Another vote for Sig 226 or 229.  The 229 is my primary training and carry piece.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 2:19:34 AM EDT
[#25]
CZ 75 BD
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 5:34:23 AM EDT
[#26]
Beretta m9/92 is the easyest 9mm to keep on target while shooting fast. The barrel doesnt tilt down. After some drills im just like "wow" that was fast.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 6:52:37 AM EDT
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I taught a skinny little 10 year old how to shoot with one of these, he used up all my 9mm but he got damn good towards the end
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 7:46:48 AM EDT
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I would say check out the hk p30.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 8:06:42 AM EDT
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HK USP,  Beretta M9/92fs, Sig P226/228/229, gen 3 s&w auto
What's your budget?
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 8:42:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/25/2016 12:54:14 AM EDT
[#31]
CZ P09 or SP01, by a wide margin. Then Sig P226 or HK USP 9.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 3:19:44 AM EDT
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HK USP9.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 8:25:47 AM EDT
[#33]
SP2022
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 9:18:38 AM EDT
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HK P30 would be my recommendation just because it has the best ergonomics out of all the DA/SA guns I've ever shot IMO, although an all steel gun like a CZ-75 or S&W 5906 will feel slightly softer shooting due to the weight.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 6:15:07 PM EDT
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Beretta m9/92 is the easyest 9mm to keep on target while shooting fast. The barrel doesnt tilt down. After some drills im just like "wow" that was fast.
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My Beretta 92G-SD is extremely easy to shoot well. Soft recoil, quick recovery and very accurate.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 9:03:27 PM EDT
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This
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 11:20:27 PM EDT
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Id say the 92 series is what you seek. If you don't like Beretta than a CZ75 would be my next suggestion.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 11:21:39 PM EDT
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Any one of the DA/SA SIGs especially the all stainless models.
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The 228/9 is a good choice.
Link Posted: 5/27/2016 2:09:13 PM EDT
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If you decide to go .45 ACP, then the HK USP Tactical is a very nice pistol.  USPs are extremely robust pistols.  I have a lot of pistols, some 2 and 3 times the USP in price, but the USP Tac is my go to.
Link Posted: 5/27/2016 2:46:52 PM EDT
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I happen to be a big fan of traditional DA semi-auto's and I really think once the US Military adopts a striker fired pistol with no safety, after that "experiment" they'll make a big swing back to the traditional DA/SA semi-auto.  I think Law Enforcement will probably do the same thing, especially the larger agencies.  The trigger cocking stirker fired pistols with no safety are just a really poor weapon choice for someone who isn't dedicated to putting in the time to handle those weapons safely; and sad to say, that describes a lot of cops/soldiers.  

Of the currently available traditional DA semi-autos out there, the most tested and proven by a good margin is the Beretta 92 series.  There's a few strikes against the 92 series that can be show stoppers for some.  The grip is large, the pistol is large, and the slide mounted safety is rather unpopular.  Personally, even with those negatives, I really LOVE the Beretta 92 series pistols.  I have no problems working with the slide mounted safety, the grip fits me very well, and the overall size...well, it hasn't been a problem.  The grip length actually isn't all that long, just a tad longer than a Glock 19 if you can believe it.  And even the overall size of the pistol is large, it's not a heavy gun, and that's due to the open slide design, there's a lot of weight missing there.  Fully loaded and ready to carry, my full size 92FS is just 2oz heavier than my S&W LW .45 Commander.  

My next favorite DA auto is the P01 from CZ, or the P07 if you like Tupperware.  One of those will be my next carry gun sometime next year.  My daughter has laid claim to my LW Commander for when she goes off to college, and who am I to deny my little girl a cool LW Commander?  I'd love to have the new Omega Convertible P01 but I think they're going to be very difficult to find, so my backup plan in the P07, which is much the same pistol just with a plastic frame.  I just think the CZ's are world class guns and I love the single action cocked & locked option.  Once the trigger has been tuned, they're just bad ass pistols.

Next up is the Sig 229 or 2022.  For daily carry the 2022 is probably the way to go, but the 229 is just a sweet pistol too.  Both are just outstanding pistols and many would prefer them over my first pick of the Beretta 92 series and I can't blame them (but for me, I prefer the Beretta)...simply put the Sig's are just great pistols.  Much of the entire nation of France has settled on the Sig 2022, military and police; with it being the replacement for their aging Beretta 92's.  And honestly if I were arming a large group of people, the 2022 does make more sense than the Beretta 92.  While the 92 may be a great pistol for me, the fact is, it's not a great choice for everyone, and the 2022 is much more likely to fit smaller hands than a Beretta 92.

Finally, don't forget the Beretta PX4; that's a straight up bad-azz pistol right there.  Again, I personally like it better than the Sig 2022, but either are world class pistols more than capable of handling any duty you could ever ask of it.  They're light weight, VERY accurate, extremely reliable and the ergonomics are really great.  

So...
Beretta 92FS, or 92FS Compact (whichever floats your boat)
CZ P01 or P07
Sig 229 or 2022
Beretta PX4

Long live the DA auto!!
Link Posted: 5/28/2016 5:40:52 AM EDT
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Beretta Cougar?
Link Posted: 5/28/2016 9:07:44 AM EDT
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Stoeger Cougar?
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FIFY

There are some brand new ones in all color options on Gunbroker right now for $279.99-$299.99 + $10 shipping and no CC fees.  It is a pig of a gun though.
Link Posted: 5/28/2016 1:32:14 PM EDT
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I found the USP 9mm to be one of the softest pistols I've ever shot, not including all steel 9mm pistols (CZ tactical sport, SP01, Hi Power) but much softer than my 226, which was surprising and disappointing.

Link Posted: 5/28/2016 9:03:37 PM EDT
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My Kriss Sphinx fills those roles.
Link Posted: 5/28/2016 10:31:37 PM EDT
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I think a P226 is the softest shooting 9mm out there.
Link Posted: 5/29/2016 12:14:40 PM EDT
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Walther P99?
Link Posted: 5/29/2016 2:29:20 PM EDT
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CZ

Link Posted: 5/29/2016 2:53:58 PM EDT
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I bought a used 5906TSW not too long ago.  Very smooth shooter.



(Disclaimer - not my gun.)

 
Link Posted: 5/29/2016 11:32:14 PM EDT
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If you decide to go .45 ACP, then the HK USP Tactical is a very nice pistol.  USPs are extremely robust pistols.  I have a lot of pistols, some 2 and 3 times the USP in price, but the USP Tac is my go to.
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Also yes.  My USP45Tac is my 'big' gun, my CZ P07 is my EDC.  Only two handguns I currently own and having a helluva time justifying anything else, since these two are so amazingly good at their jobs.
Link Posted: 5/30/2016 12:56:13 AM EDT
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I would recommend the following: Sig 226, 229, 227, or 224 in 9mm; CZ RAMI BD; CZ-75 D PCR compact; CZ P-01; and the Baby Desert Eagle pistol lineup.
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