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Posted: 3/22/2015 11:49:19 PM EDT
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No grease, it'll attract gunk fast.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:01:31 AM EDT
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On the pistol surfaces where some may normally grease, is there any consensus about whether to apply grease to one or both surfaces? In other words, surface A and surface B slide against each other. Do most apply grease to only one surface, or to both A and B? Or is it more of a YMMV/'some do this, some do that' issue? TIA ~ I really don't think it matters. I grease my SIGs like recommended in the pinned thread in the SIG subforum. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:15:51 AM EDT
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No grease, it'll attract gunk fast. Hmmmm.... Seems I've heard that before, somewhere! 
When I started thinking about this, it wasn't long before I saw that there were 2 definite 'camps' in this debate. I'm relatively new to handgun shooting, and I'm trying things out to get personal experience, and wondered if there was any sort of consensus on this particular point. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:16:55 AM EDT
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I sometimes put a tiny bit of grease on the frame's slide rails. It doesn't really help. I just do it because it doesn't run off like a drop of oil. I don't feel like I'm getting enough oil by just brushing oil on the slide rails, but I brush the oil on everywhere else.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 4:15:17 AM EDT
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I just oil/grease one area and not both mating areas. No need to. Glock pistols you pretty much have only a handful of areas that you put a drop of oil and that's it. I don't like to over do it with the lube on my firearms as it would cause more issues.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 6:51:48 AM EDT
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Hmmmm.... Seems I've heard that before, somewhere!
When I started thinking about this, it wasn't long before I saw that there were 2 definite 'camps' in this debate. I'm relatively new to handgun shooting, and I'm trying things out to get personal experience, and wondered if there was any sort of consensus on this particular point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No grease, it'll attract gunk fast. Hmmmm.... Seems I've heard that before, somewhere!
When I started thinking about this, it wasn't long before I saw that there were 2 definite 'camps' in this debate. I'm relatively new to handgun shooting, and I'm trying things out to get personal experience, and wondered if there was any sort of consensus on this particular point. Depends on what gun you are talking about. If you shoot SIG classic guns like the p226 or p229 then you will want to use grease. Pretty much all the experts agree on that. As far as other guns, I don't know how much it matters. You could probably just spit on a Glock or HK every now and then and it would keep running fine. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 8:05:09 AM EDT
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I'm in south Louisiana and during summer months I use pro gold, or another syringe type gun grease (forget name), during the winter and cooler times I just use EWL, or Hoppe's.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 8:36:23 AM EDT
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I usually just grease one or the other. I love grease around here where it gets so hot many oils don't seem to last long.
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Posted: 3/23/2015 9:20:52 AM EDT
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Definitely grease your gun if it's aluminum or steel. It helps a lot both with limiting wear and reliability. I used oil only for a long time, and after using grease for a year I will always use it on my 1911s and SIGs, and manufacturers and pro shooters will also recommend it. It does make debris stick, but grease takes care of that when the gun cycles. Debris is a much worse problem on a dry gun or one with oil that runs dry. This is one debate that I think one side is wrong about (at least with handguns that are made of steel or aluminum). I do put a little grease on specific internals and the metal slide mating surfaces of my VP9, but I don't think it is as supsceptible to the problems that grease addresses.
It only takes a small amount of grease, so I don't think it would matter if you greased one or both surfaces. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 9:49:33 AM EDT
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I grease both mating sides with TW 25B and my rails look so good it wouldn't be believed how many rounds have been fired though my pistols, both aluminum and steel framed.
Tetra Grease has also provided me with excellent results when properly applied. One thing about the TW25B I like is how it doesn't attract dirt and cleanup is easy with paper towels, a rag and some Q-Tips. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 11:17:06 AM EDT
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The trick about grease is not putting too much on. I'm a big fan of Tetra gun grease. It gets cold enough around here to stiffen anything up, but that Tetra has always been 100% for me. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:21:53 PM EDT
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Thanks, all.
I've tried - to this point - Lucas Red n Tacky, Slide Glide, and a couple of guns with the TW25B that came with one of my Sigs. The Lucas and Slide Glide I applied liberally, at first, and did have a few issues on a couple of guns, but nothing that wiping off some excess didn't take care of. The consistency of the TW25B seems significantly thinner than the other RnT and Slide Glide - someone mentioned how it was easy to clean up, and I can certainly see that. I liked it, but thought I would check out the other 2 first prior to buying more of the TW25B, as it was quite a bit more expensive. Tetra Grease is next up on the list to take a look at. I apply the RnT and Slide Glide using a small, but sturdy, brush. Ater brushing it in, it looks like there's nothing there as it is so translucent :) but as the brush was saturated prior to applying, I just trust that it is on there. Thanks again ~ |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:45:26 PM EDT
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Lanza, if you are talking about that CZ999, then YES, you need to grease it, just like the Sig sticky that is easily found by searching Sig grease on google. Grease thin but thoroughly
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Posted: 3/23/2015 1:42:46 PM EDT
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I don't personally get into finding "the best" lube. As long as it does the job in the weather I'm in, it's good to go.
So I use Shooters Choice. If I found something else that had a nice easy syringe, I'd have no problem switching. As for what surfaces to grease, do but intermittent dabs of grease on both slide and frame rails and work the action back and forth to spread it, wiping off excess with my fingertip and reapplying it anywhere that got missed. After that, excess is wiped away with a cloth/swab. Does it matter which surface? Probably not; it's grease, it will transfer. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 2:26:19 PM EDT
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I have shot a lot of guns in my like and here is my $.02 so long as you are using lubrication on areas where metal is contacting metal it does not matter if you use grease or oil just as long as you have lubrication. Now not all lubricants are created equal.
It comes back to about a year ago my neighbor comes walking over while I am smearing lithium grease on the tracks for my garage door and asks me why I am doing that. I said metal to metal contact and I want my garage door to last plus it was creaking and squeaking like crazy which the lube corrected. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 8:45:59 PM EDT
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I always use grease on my CZ pistols, mobil 1 synthetic red grease, yes sir I do
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Posted: 3/23/2015 10:10:19 PM EDT
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I have always used Lubriplate No. 105 Motor Assembly Grease on my pistols and semi auto rifles. Mainly because my first semi was an M1. Small artist brush and paint everything that is a bearing surface of shines from friction, both top and bottom. I live were it is hot and oil will run off where grease lasts longer. When it looks nasty change it.
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Posted: 3/24/2015 8:24:16 PM EDT
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I put Magnalube grease on all my firearms. Cuz I'm lazy and hate washing my hands if I don't have to, I apply the grease to the bearing surfaces with a nitrile glove. A thin coat is all it takes.
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Posted: 3/24/2015 8:44:24 PM EDT
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Grease what slides, oil what rotates.
Even a 'plastic' pistol has steel inserts in the grip for the slide to move on. |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 9:06:48 PM EDT
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Grease what slides, oil what rotates. Even a 'plastic' pistol has steel inserts in the grip for the slide to move on. Not all of them. Ruger P95s don't. |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 9:18:38 PM EDT
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Just grease one side of the mating surface and it will transfer to the other surface.
I use cheap hi-temp bearing grease from Walmart, and if I need oil I use what I use in my truck 5w-20 Motorcraft. I also shoot about 20k through my competition guns each year with no issues. I also use grease in my duty and carry guns with no issues. In the winter I mix a little of the oil with the grease before I apply to thin it a bit. Jon |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 10:07:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I sometimes put a tiny bit of grease on the frame's slide rails. It doesn't really help. I just do it because it doesn't run off like a drop of oil. I don't feel like I'm getting enough oil by just brushing oil on the slide rails, but I brush the oil on everywhere else. This, I don't have to worry if it has been a couple of weeks since I oiled it, it will run! |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 11:02:47 PM EDT
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I always grease both contact surfaces, though I can't say why it would matter if you apply sufficient grease to only one of the contact surfaces. About the only guns I don't grease to at least some extent are my ARs.
Marine axle grease is my preference, but the Hoppe's stuff that smells vaguely like cinnamon works too. Never tried the Tetra grease or any of that fancy stuff. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 9:46:13 AM EDT
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I don't really use oil at all, pretty much only grease. It doesn't evaporate like oil and it doesn't run elsewhere either. The only place I DO you oil is the FCG pivots.
I grease the slide rails (just the frame, I don't see a reason to actually apply it to both surfaces), the barrel hood, the camming surfaces below the chamber, and the hammer face/striker catch. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:36:27 AM EDT
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Thanks, all. I've tried - to this point - Lucas Red n Tacky, Slide Glide, and a couple of guns with the TW25B that came with one of my Sigs. The Lucas and Slide Glide I applied liberally, at first, and did have a few issues on a couple of guns, but nothing that wiping off some excess didn't take care of. The consistency of the TW25B seems significantly thinner than the other RnT and Slide Glide - someone mentioned how it was easy to clean up, and I can certainly see that. I liked it, but thought I would check out the other 2 first prior to buying more of the TW25B, as it was quite a bit more expensive. Tetra Grease is next up on the list to take a look at. I apply the RnT and Slide Glide using a small, but sturdy, brush. Ater brushing it in, it looks like there's nothing there as it is so translucent :) but as the brush was saturated prior to applying, I just trust that it is on there. Thanks again ~ Applying the grease properly where it's needed is far more important than which reputable product you apply so long as you use a product suitable for the temperatures you are likely to encounter, which is why everyone has a favorite product they all swear by since they all work well when used properly. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:42:45 AM EDT
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Not all of them. Ruger P95s don't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grease what slides, oil what rotates. Even a 'plastic' pistol has steel inserts in the grip for the slide to move on. Not all of them. Ruger P95s don't. So they are actually using steel on plastic? That is not going to work all that well. The first bit of grit is going to tear the plastic up badly. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 12:47:30 PM EDT
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I've used both grease and oil.
I mostly use CLP, but I've used Tetra and just regular ole white lithium grease. This is the only thing that I can add that I'm not sure has been said. Oil will eventually dry, and some grease may eventually harden. So either one needs some kind of interval care. In either case a well shot gun would probably work regardless, but it's good to keep them current. Some grease might get more gummy than others as time goes on, and some oils might evaporate quicker than others. So I guess you just have to see what works for you. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 3:21:51 AM EDT
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As a Glock owner, reading this thread is sort of like owning a car and finding a bunch of people discussing how to keep their horse cart running.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:32:35 AM EDT
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So they are actually using steel on plastic? That is not going to work all that well. The first bit of grit is going to tear the plastic up badly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grease what slides, oil what rotates. Even a 'plastic' pistol has steel inserts in the grip for the slide to move on. Not all of them. Ruger P95s don't. So they are actually using steel on plastic? That is not going to work all that well. The first bit of grit is going to tear the plastic up badly. yup. but oddly they work great. the polymer on those Rugers are tough as nails. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:50:17 AM EDT
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As a Glock owner, reading this thread is sort of like owning a car and finding a bunch of people discussing how to keep their horse cart running. I use Breakfree LP to lubricate my plastic guns. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:51:13 AM EDT
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I use slide glide lite and apply it with a flux brush (with half the bristles cut off).
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Posted: 3/27/2015 10:10:15 AM EDT
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No grease, it'll attract gunk fast. I use the Shooter's Choice red grease on slide rails on carry guns and never notice a buildup of dirt. I think this is a little overblown - bottom line is if you are in a really dusty dirty environment and you need your weapons to run, you are going to need oil or grease, and both of those will attract shit. There's pretty much no alternative in the situation to routine maintenance. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 10:12:22 AM EDT
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I use Breakfree LP to lubricate my plastic guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a Glock owner, reading this thread is sort of like owning a car and finding a bunch of people discussing how to keep their horse cart running. I use Breakfree LP to lubricate my plastic guns. I guess - I use the red grease on my Glock frame rails - just a little - and oil on the various other lub points. It's no different really |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 10:04:15 AM EDT
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I use slide glide on all my frame rails. Started doing it on my sigs that I no longer have and continued with my M&P and FNX Tactical
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Posted: 3/28/2015 5:03:46 PM EDT
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yup. but oddly they work great. the polymer on those Rugers are tough as nails. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grease what slides, oil what rotates. Even a 'plastic' pistol has steel inserts in the grip for the slide to move on. Not all of them. Ruger P95s don't. So they are actually using steel on plastic? That is not going to work all that well. The first bit of grit is going to tear the plastic up badly. yup. but oddly they work great. the polymer on those Rugers are tough as nails. It is not as tough as the first grain of quartz. Of xourse that would be hard on steel also, but the plastic will take all the wear. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 6:07:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2015 7:33:41 PM EDT
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I always grease the rails in my handguns, and have never had a problem.
I have shot them in dusty environments with no problems, and lint has never been a problem either. I dont go dropping my gun in the dirt though. I use a moly-based anti-some sieze grease that has a high temp mil-spec rating |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 9:35:56 AM EDT
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Quote Historyhe got paid to say that BTW ^^^ |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 1:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: he got paid to say that BTW ^^^ Quote HistoryQuoted: he got paid to say that BTW ^^^ Doesn't make it any less true, doesn't make it the end all be all as there are a lot of great lubes out there but it works well and is worth looking at. I've been trying it out and so far it seems to work as well as the synthetic grease I've been using. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 2:13:58 PM EDT
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I use the Shooter's Choice red grease on slide rails on carry guns and never notice a buildup of dirt. I think this is a little overblown - bottom line is if you are in a really dusty dirty environment and you need your weapons to run, you are going to need oil or grease, and both of those will attract shit. There's pretty much no alternative in the situation to routine maintenance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No grease, it'll attract gunk fast. I use the Shooter's Choice red grease on slide rails on carry guns and never notice a buildup of dirt. I think this is a little overblown - bottom line is if you are in a really dusty dirty environment and you need your weapons to run, you are going to need oil or grease, and both of those will attract shit. There's pretty much no alternative in the situation to routine maintenance. No, he's just full of shit. Grease won't "attract "[Retain is the correct word; it's not actively grabbing dust out of the air.] dirt and dust anymore than oil will. Grease has the advantage of staying put and not drying out much longer than oil, and dust and grime isn't a major issue for most firearms, providing they are properly lubed. A dirty, lubed gun (that sounds a bit wrong ) is going to operate better than a dry, clean firearm. Having lube actually in place is what counts.
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