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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:14:07 PM EDT
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3K... ouch. I think I'd look around for something closer to get your feet wet first.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:35:22 PM EDT
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I did the 350 pistol course about 9-10 years ago.
Won an award at work that came with two free plane tickets and a check for $1,000 Used it to go out to,Gunsite in AZ ( they offer offsite training as well) Money well spent.... It was outstanding. Went back a year later for Advanced Carbine. If it's affordable on your budget I'd highly recommend it. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:36:58 PM EDT
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The 250 just because it's the a basic handgun class isn't a bunch of clueless people. Everyone has one thing in common, a desire to learn more and become more profficient. The tools the instructors present you with accomplish that.
I'll never forget the first day when initial paperwork was being filled out, one of the instructors said "you all have one thing in common, you're here because you realize there are people out there who mean to do you harm". Good thought to start five days of training with. It's a good class not only for pistol methods, but also the mindset which you walk away with. I'm very happy I did the 250 which led to the 350 and a few others. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:58:59 PM EDT
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A good class and I recommend it.
My top recommendation though is Larry Mudgett at Marksmanship Matters. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:34:54 PM EDT
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It's a half hour drive from me, and yes, I've been there.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:42:13 PM EDT
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Paul Howe at CSAT is in your state. Hit up with pistol operator course, and then if you feel ready take his pistol instructor course. Some of the best money I have ever spent. Can't speak to Gunsite...3k just sounds like a lot.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:33:58 PM EDT
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Paul Howe at CSAT is in your state. Hit up with pistol operator course, and then if you feel ready take his pistol instructor course. Some of the best money I have ever spent. Can't speak to Gunsite...3k just sounds like a lot. Going rate for instruction these days is 2-300 a day. Add in meals, travel and lodging and I don't think it's unreasonable. Remember it's a 5 day class. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:36:43 PM EDT
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Why not contact some good instructors and get them to run a class at your place, either a private class or with some paying friends?
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:39:17 PM EDT
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Why not contact some good instructors and get them to run a class at your place, either a private class or with some paying friends? |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:07:30 PM EDT
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I live down the road from gunsite, haven't been yet but definitely plan to do so eventually.
I would take a couple cheaper local courses (find recommendations in your HTF) first just to get your feet wet, so to speak. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 5:22:06 AM EDT
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I live down the road from gunsite, haven't been yet but definitely plan to do so eventually. I would take a couple cheaper local courses (find recommendations in your HTF) first just to get your feet wet, so to speak. I'd rather start at Gunsite than learn questionable habits elsewhere. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 5:56:17 AM EDT
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My thoughts: You get what you pay for. If you have the money for it, I can think of dumber ways to spend 3k. Do it and report back if you think it is worth it. (It is easy for me to spend someone else's money.)
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Posted: 8/25/2014 8:05:34 AM EDT
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I took the 250 as it was a lifelong dream. Loved it and went back a few months later for the carbine class and I can't wait to go again. It is money well spent and a darn good time too.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 11:51:32 AM EDT
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I live down the road from gunsite, haven't been yet but definitely plan to do so eventually. I would take a couple cheaper local courses (find recommendations in your HTF) first just to get your feet wet, so to speak. I'd rather start at Gunsite than learn questionable habits elsewhere. Absolutely, that's why I qualified my suggestion with "find recommendations". I just think a shorter local class or two would give him a bit of prep knowledge, take care of the first class jitters, and allow him to get his gear set up. That way, when the time comes, he could focus more on what the gunsite instructors are teaching. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 12:21:33 PM EDT
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I think your money would be better spent on multiple classes semi-locally. Vickers, Defoor, Proctor...there are plenty of "big names" in the business who travel around and will likely be somewhere within driving distance of you. I've taken 2 of Frank Proctor's classes, and both were worth every penny.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 12:54:49 PM EDT
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I think your money would be better spent on multiple classes semi-locally. Vickers, Defoor, Proctor...there are plenty of "big names" in the business who travel around and will likely be somewhere within driving distance of you. I've taken 2 of Frank Proctor's classes, and both were worth every penny. Most of these instructors lack the facilities that Gunsite can provide and once you account for the five day foat the price isn't much better. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 12:55:51 PM EDT
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Absolutely, that's why I qualified my suggestion with "find recommendations". I just think a shorter local class or two would give him a bit of prep knowledge, take care of the first class jitters, and allow him to get his gear set up. That way, when the time comes, he could focus more on what the gunsite instructors are teaching. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I live down the road from gunsite, haven't been yet but definitely plan to do so eventually. I would take a couple cheaper local courses (find recommendations in your HTF) first just to get your feet wet, so to speak. I'd rather start at Gunsite than learn questionable habits elsewhere. Absolutely, that's why I qualified my suggestion with "find recommendations". I just think a shorter local class or two would give him a bit of prep knowledge, take care of the first class jitters, and allow him to get his gear set up. That way, when the time comes, he could focus more on what the gunsite instructors are teaching. Potentially workable depending on who you can find locally. But Gunsite can square you away with a whole carry kit from the pro shop if necessary. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 4:11:00 PM EDT
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Potentially workable depending on who you can find locally. But Gunsite can square you away with a whole carry kit from the pro shop if necessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I live down the road from gunsite, haven't been yet but definitely plan to do so eventually. I would take a couple cheaper local courses (find recommendations in your HTF) first just to get your feet wet, so to speak. I'd rather start at Gunsite than learn questionable habits elsewhere. Absolutely, that's why I qualified my suggestion with "find recommendations". I just think a shorter local class or two would give him a bit of prep knowledge, take care of the first class jitters, and allow him to get his gear set up. That way, when the time comes, he could focus more on what the gunsite instructors are teaching. Potentially workable depending on who you can find locally. But Gunsite can square you away with a whole carry kit from the pro shop if necessary. Man...buying more gear would be horrible. 
Thank you for all the advice. I'm going to think on it. Right now, I'm leaning toward biting the bullet and going...sort of an adventure / pilgrimage. We have the $$$, I'm just a tight ass sometimes. We have a four year old boy... |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 12:29:35 PM EDT
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I think your money would be better spent on multiple classes semi-locally. Vickers, Defoor, Proctor...there are plenty of "big names" in the business who travel around and will likely be somewhere within driving distance of you. I've taken 2 of Frank Proctor's classes, and both were worth every penny. I have taken classes with Defoor and Proctor. However, I would highly advise you to take some local classes first. I have only taken pistol classes from both. Proctors class would be okay for someone who has not done a lot of training before. However, Defoors class was much more advanced in my mind. I took away things from both and praise both instructors highly. Each class with either Defoor or Proctor toppled $1K pretty quickly considering class, ammo, fuel, and boarding costs. Defoors class seemed more geared towards carrying a pistol for protection. Proctors class seemed geared towards competitive shooting. I agree however that it can directly relate to defensive shooting. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 4:17:49 PM EDT
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I have taken classes with Defoor and Proctor. However, I would highly advise you to take some local classes first. I have only taken pistol classes from both. Proctors class would be okay for someone who has not done a lot of training before. However, Defoors class was much more advanced in my mind. I took away things from both and praise both instructors highly. Each class with either Defoor or Proctor toppled $1K pretty quickly considering class, ammo, fuel, and boarding costs. Defoors class seemed more geared towards carrying a pistol for protection. Proctors class seemed geared towards competitive shooting. I agree however that it can directly relate to defensive shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think your money would be better spent on multiple classes semi-locally. Vickers, Defoor, Proctor...there are plenty of "big names" in the business who travel around and will likely be somewhere within driving distance of you. I've taken 2 of Frank Proctor's classes, and both were worth every penny. I have taken classes with Defoor and Proctor. However, I would highly advise you to take some local classes first. I have only taken pistol classes from both. Proctors class would be okay for someone who has not done a lot of training before. However, Defoors class was much more advanced in my mind. I took away things from both and praise both instructors highly. Each class with either Defoor or Proctor toppled $1K pretty quickly considering class, ammo, fuel, and boarding costs. Defoors class seemed more geared towards carrying a pistol for protection. Proctors class seemed geared towards competitive shooting. I agree however that it can directly relate to defensive shooting. I took Frank's first "concealed carry operator" course. He's got plans to put a concealment-focused class together, but he hasn't finalized it yet. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 5:28:34 PM EDT
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I took the pistol process. So maybe that's what was going on. I was the only one who rocked out with a IWB holster that weekend haha
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Posted: 8/31/2014 4:11:58 PM EDT
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More than worth the price of the class, IMO, whether you area Jeff Cooper fan or not.
A week's worth of immersion in the mindset and shooting culture is better then 10 weekends of other courses. As with languages, immersion works. |
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