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Posted: 2/11/2014 4:37:14 AM EDT
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They started arriving at dealers this week and your dealer said he will not get them until the end of March or April? I'd probably look in to a different dealer if I were you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped at a LGS at lunch. They said they expect them in around the end of March early April. I got on a waiting list. I was only the second one on the list. They said they were getting in 12 in the first batch and they would be selling them for $425. They started arriving at dealers this week and your dealer said he will not get them until the end of March or April? I'd probably look in to a different dealer if I were you. I haven't seen any dealers that actually have them in stock yet. Maybe you could post a link to one that actually has them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 6:34:44 AM EDT
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/gun-review-remington-r51/ Not sure I'm buying all of that. Saying the gun is 'roughly the size of a Glock 19' is like saying anything labeled compact is roughly the same size. I've tried a few guns and they all carry differently. My Glock 23 is one of the most uncomfortable with my body and how I carry. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 8:17:10 AM EDT
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Not sure I'm buying all of that. Saying the gun is 'roughly the size of a Glock 19' is like saying anything labeled compact is roughly the same size. I've tried a few guns and they all carry differently. My Glock 23 is one of the most uncomfortable with my body and how I carry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/gun-review-remington-r51/ Not sure I'm buying all of that. Saying the gun is 'roughly the size of a Glock 19' is like saying anything labeled compact is roughly the same size. I've tried a few guns and they all carry differently. My Glock 23 is one of the most uncomfortable with my body and how I carry. Many people regard the G19 as the perfect sized gun. IF the gun is dimensioned similar to the G19 but is significantly thinner then it is a win in my eyes. Yes, the capacity is reduced but if you want a slimmer gun you have to give up something. That article shows a ton of bias anyway. I would wait for a non biased review from another independent source before coming to any conclusions based upon someone else's experiences. I believe Nick Foghorn or whatever the hell his name might be is simply butthurt because Remington didnt invite him to their uber Shmoozefest where they unveiled the pistol. Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 8:50:34 AM EDT
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Many people regard the G19 as the perfect sized gun. IF the gun is dimensioned similar to the G19 but is significantly thinner then it is a win in my eyes. Yes, the capacity is reduced but if you want a slimmer gun you have to give up something. That article shows a ton of bias anyway. I would wait for a non biased review from another independent source before coming to any conclusions based upon someone else's experiences. I believe Nick Foghorn or whatever the hell his name might be is simply butthurt because Remington didnt invite him to their uber Shmoozefest where they unveiled the pistol. Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/gun-review-remington-r51/ Not sure I'm buying all of that. Saying the gun is 'roughly the size of a Glock 19' is like saying anything labeled compact is roughly the same size. I've tried a few guns and they all carry differently. My Glock 23 is one of the most uncomfortable with my body and how I carry. Many people regard the G19 as the perfect sized gun. IF the gun is dimensioned similar to the G19 but is significantly thinner then it is a win in my eyes. Yes, the capacity is reduced but if you want a slimmer gun you have to give up something. That article shows a ton of bias anyway. I would wait for a non biased review from another independent source before coming to any conclusions based upon someone else's experiences. I believe Nick Foghorn or whatever the hell his name might be is simply butthurt because Remington didnt invite him to their uber Shmoozefest where they unveiled the pistol. Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. I agree with you on this assessment. I am going to wait and see what other reviewers think before I cry foul. One of the first vids released had the Remington factory guy empting a magazine very quickly and with very little perceivable muzzle rise. It looked like a nice shooter. I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913  in this class.
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Posted: 2/11/2014 11:30:31 AM EDT
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I agree with you on this assessment. I am going to wait and see what other reviewers think before I cry foul. One of the first vids released had the Remington factory guy empting a magazine very quickly and with very little perceivable muzzle rise. It looked like a nice shooter. I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/gun-review-remington-r51/ Not sure I'm buying all of that. Saying the gun is 'roughly the size of a Glock 19' is like saying anything labeled compact is roughly the same size. I've tried a few guns and they all carry differently. My Glock 23 is one of the most uncomfortable with my body and how I carry. Many people regard the G19 as the perfect sized gun. IF the gun is dimensioned similar to the G19 but is significantly thinner then it is a win in my eyes. Yes, the capacity is reduced but if you want a slimmer gun you have to give up something. That article shows a ton of bias anyway. I would wait for a non biased review from another independent source before coming to any conclusions based upon someone else's experiences. I believe Nick Foghorn or whatever the hell his name might be is simply butthurt because Remington didnt invite him to their uber Shmoozefest where they unveiled the pistol. Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. I agree with you on this assessment. I am going to wait and see what other reviewers think before I cry foul. One of the first vids released had the Remington factory guy empting a magazine very quickly and with very little perceivable muzzle rise. It looked like a nice shooter. I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
You sir, are a man of discerning tastes! The only thing keeping me out of a 3913 or 14 is the fact that finding mags seems to be somewhat difficult. I think the gun will prove to be a "shooter" for what it is. I plan on getting one simply because it interests me and beating the shit out of it to see how far i can take it. At the price point that it commands, i cant really think of a reason not to. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 12:00:53 PM EDT
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Foghorn admits to having problems with Freedom Group in the past, so its a biased review. But nice to see somebody finally got their hands on one and completed a review for the rest of us. Like many others have said, i'll wait until Hickok45 and some of the other more seasoned people post their reviews.
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Posted: 2/11/2014 12:06:58 PM EDT
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I agree with you on this assessment. I am going to wait and see what other reviewers think before I cry foul. One of the first vids released had the Remington factory guy empting a magazine very quickly and with very little perceivable muzzle rise. It looked like a nice shooter. I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
I carry a 3913 now. It carries noticeably better for me than my G23 yet it's as large or larger in some dimensions. I've looked at a ton of guns to replace the Smith and I've not found anything that will work better other than potentially the R51. The only way I can decide is to try one, see how it fits, and shoot it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 2:12:32 PM EDT
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I carry a 3913 now. It carries noticeably better for me than my G23 yet it's as large or larger in some dimensions. I've looked at a ton of guns to replace the Smith and I've not found anything that will work better other than potentially the R51. The only way I can decide is to try one, see how it fits, and shoot it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree with you on this assessment. I am going to wait and see what other reviewers think before I cry foul. One of the first vids released had the Remington factory guy empting a magazine very quickly and with very little perceivable muzzle rise. It looked like a nice shooter. I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
I carry a 3913 now. It carries noticeably better for me than my G23 yet it's as large or larger in some dimensions. I've looked at a ton of guns to replace the Smith and I've not found anything that will work better other than potentially the R51. The only way I can decide is to try one, see how it fits, and shoot it. I too am interested in the R51. It would have to be one hell of a pistol though to replace my 3913. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 2:17:03 PM EDT
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Someone get Hickok45 one STAT! I want a review!
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Posted: 2/11/2014 5:22:33 PM EDT
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Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. Other issue is he clearly does not know how to shoot a pistol with a single action trigger. Keeps trying to "ride the reset" as if that were a good thing or a good habit to get into. Probably bitch that a 1911 does not have a grindy/clicky reset as well. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 6:59:08 PM EDT
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I haven't seen any dealers that actually have them in stock yet. Maybe you could post a link to one that actually has them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped at a LGS at lunch. They said they expect them in around the end of March early April. I got on a waiting list. I was only the second one on the list. They said they were getting in 12 in the first batch and they would be selling them for $425. They started arriving at dealers this week and your dealer said he will not get them until the end of March or April? I'd probably look in to a different dealer if I were you. I haven't seen any dealers that actually have them in stock yet. Maybe you could post a link to one that actually has them. He said he got these two at his local FFL. By that, I thought he meant they were now showing up to dealers and he just so happen to pick up the first ones that arrived. It's probably a case of him getting an advance shipment of two pistols for review though. I apologize if that was the case. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/just-arrived-remington-r51/ |
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Posted: 2/12/2014 4:01:38 AM EDT
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On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:27 AM, SCW wrote:
Ray any word on Arrival or Street Pricing? thanks SCW On Feb 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM Ray wrote no word.. sorry i`ll let you no. thanks, Ray |
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Posted: 2/12/2014 4:25:54 AM EDT
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I too am interested in the R51. It would have to be one hell of a pistol though to replace my 3913. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree with you on this assessment. I am going to wait and see what other reviewers think before I cry foul. One of the first vids released had the Remington factory guy empting a magazine very quickly and with very little perceivable muzzle rise. It looked like a nice shooter. I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
I carry a 3913 now. It carries noticeably better for me than my G23 yet it's as large or larger in some dimensions. I've looked at a ton of guns to replace the Smith and I've not found anything that will work better other than potentially the R51. The only way I can decide is to try one, see how it fits, and shoot it. I too am interested in the R51. It would have to be one hell of a pistol though to replace my 3913. Couldn't agree more. It seems we're comparing a $400 pistol to what amounts to a $600-$800 pistol in today's dollars. |
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Posted: 2/12/2014 5:35:06 AM EDT
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Snip....... Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. Snip...... I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
Still interested also. I've got an LC9 with that llllllooooonnnngggggg trigger. You get used to it and not every gun is going to work the way "you" want it to. I handled a G42 over the weekend. The size is good over all, but that blocky slide just isn't what I want. I'm sure a good holster helps that. Seems like he also has completely forgotten about other guns that have specific assembly steps. How many guns have directional recoil springs (PPK, Sig, etc) or other things that cause a stoppage (potentially) if reinstalled incorrectly? This spring on the slide catch seems to be something you could check by retracting the slide seeing it it resets correctly (freely). |
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Posted: 2/12/2014 7:20:51 AM EDT
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He said he got these two at his local FFL. By that, I thought he meant they were now showing up to dealers and he just so happen to pick up the first ones that arrived. It's probably a case of him getting an advance shipment of two pistols for review though. I apologize if that was the case. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/just-arrived-remington-r51/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped at a LGS at lunch. They said they expect them in around the end of March early April. I got on a waiting list. I was only the second one on the list. They said they were getting in 12 in the first batch and they would be selling them for $425. They started arriving at dealers this week and your dealer said he will not get them until the end of March or April? I'd probably look in to a different dealer if I were you. I haven't seen any dealers that actually have them in stock yet. Maybe you could post a link to one that actually has them. He said he got these two at his local FFL. By that, I thought he meant they were now showing up to dealers and he just so happen to pick up the first ones that arrived. It's probably a case of him getting an advance shipment of two pistols for review though. I apologize if that was the case. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/just-arrived-remington-r51/ No apology necessary. Like others have said I would imagine some of the bigger dealers might get them in before the LGS I got on the list at. Also, like others have said, they will show up on gunbroker within 24 hours of them hitting the street. |
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Posted: 2/12/2014 7:35:31 AM EDT
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Still interested also. I've got an LC9 with that llllllooooonnnngggggg trigger. You get used to it and not every gun is going to work the way "you" want it to. I handled a G42 over the weekend. The size is good over all, but that blocky slide just isn't what I want. I'm sure a good holster helps that. Seems like he also has completely forgotten about other guns that have specific assembly steps. How many guns have directional recoil springs (PPK, Sig, etc) or other things that cause a stoppage (potentially) if reinstalled incorrectly? This spring on the slide catch seems to be something you could check by retracting the slide seeing it it resets correctly (freely). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Snip....... Points of contention: 1. Physics clearly escapes this guys conscious...How is plus P a pussy cat round but standard ball ammo is a bitch to shoot? That makes no sense. Equal and opposite reactions there bucko... 2. The flush fitting magazine will no doubt be addressed by the aftermarket if it IS an issue...You do realize lots of 1911 magazines are flush fitting too...right? 3. For a sponsored FN shooter that guy has some serious pre ignition push issues with this gun...I understand hes trying to "rapid fire" but proper trigger control and follow through would have gone a long way towards remedying his "issues" with shooting the gun "at speed". 4. All guns can be reassembled improperly if you dont know what you're doing. Having a spring underneath your slide lock that requires a certain reassembly process does NOT denote a flawed design. Give me a break man... Im sure there is more but i dont want to go back and read that article again to experience a manboy cry about a sub 400 dollar pistol that clearly pissed in his breakfast. Snip...... I am very interested in this R51 but one would also be served well with a Smith 3913 in this class.
Still interested also. I've got an LC9 with that llllllooooonnnngggggg trigger. You get used to it and not every gun is going to work the way "you" want it to. I handled a G42 over the weekend. The size is good over all, but that blocky slide just isn't what I want. I'm sure a good holster helps that. Seems like he also has completely forgotten about other guns that have specific assembly steps. How many guns have directional recoil springs (PPK, Sig, etc) or other things that cause a stoppage (potentially) if reinstalled incorrectly? This spring on the slide catch seems to be something you could check by retracting the slide seeing it it resets correctly (freely). While youth is no excuse, it does sometimes get in the way... Nick Foghorn Leghorn is a pretty young guy and a fairly new shooter. I doubt hes actually spent enough time handling and shooting enough firearms to understand what you just said. Us Young-uns (im 30) are often times spoiled by the fact that most of us "grew up" on the simplicity of Glocks and modern striker fired pistols. |
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Posted: 2/13/2014 8:59:43 AM EDT
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Anyone actually located a retailer selling these yet?
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Posted: 2/13/2014 9:17:27 AM EDT
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Anyone actually located a retailer selling these yet? If they're not on Gunbroker, they're not in the wild yet. |
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Posted: 2/13/2014 10:00:07 AM EDT
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Anyone actually located a retailer selling these yet? If they're not on Gunbroker, they're not in the wild yet. Wisdom. You has it.
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Posted: 2/14/2014 2:50:10 PM EDT
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Anybody touch one of these yet? ( outside of SHOT show )
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Posted: 2/18/2014 1:42:27 PM EDT
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQEAKGXKt8[/youtube]
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Posted: 2/18/2014 1:52:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2014 1:56:24 PM EDT
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So much for not being able to shoot it quickly.
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Posted: 2/18/2014 2:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryAt 2:33 you can see the malfunction where the slide sticks during slide closing. |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 3:18:05 PM EDT
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If you wear flip-flops, you've got more problems than I can take care of in this video. Bwaaahahahahaaaaa !!! |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:21:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2014 6:13:50 AM EDT
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Same here.............already put my name on a waiting list
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:15:36 AM EDT
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this thread is almost on page 3. I assume nobody has purchased one of these yet
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:20:53 AM EDT
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Bueller?
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:45:24 AM EDT
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Damnit!
Every time I see this thread resurrected, I think that someone on here actually picked one up. 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 11:13:36 AM EDT
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Damnit! Every time I see this thread resurrected, I think that someone on here actually picked one up.
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:33:03 PM EDT
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Damn this thread, I always rush to check if someone has one yet. I'm looking forward to seeing one in person.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 10:44:35 PM EDT
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Take your pick on Gunbroker. R51 Gunbroker search
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Posted: 3/6/2014 3:47:19 PM EDT
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that means we are close to seeing this at a LGS!
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Posted: 3/6/2014 5:47:10 PM EDT
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A couple over $500, one heading to $600 on Gun Broker. I'm glad I'm not set on being the first guy to buy an untested gun for hundreds above retail.
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Posted: 3/6/2014 7:02:05 PM EDT
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A couple over $500, one heading to $600 on Gun Broker. I'm glad I'm not set on being the first guy to buy an untested gun for hundreds above retail. As long as someone lets hickok45 get his hands on one, I'll be a happy boy! |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 1:27:32 AM EDT
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A couple over $500, one heading to $600 on Gun Broker. I'm glad I'm not set on being the first guy to buy an untested gun for hundreds above retail. When I see that it makes me wonder just how big the sellers extended family is? |
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Posted: 3/8/2014 3:52:57 PM EDT
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I read that when it was being tested, the guys shooting it went through so many rounds, they were standing on brass and not the floor. There was one failure. Hope that is so.
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Posted: 3/8/2014 6:02:50 PM EDT
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I just don't get it...its ugly as hell and nothing that great as features over any other single stack 9mm.
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Posted: 3/8/2014 6:36:26 PM EDT
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I just don't get it...its ugly as hell and nothing that great as features over any other single stack 9mm. To some of us it's about the optimum size for ccw, it's 9mm, and it's a from a major manufacturer for $400+- That's enough. Ugly doesn't mean anything to me. Glocks aren't exactly beautiful. |
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Posted: 3/8/2014 7:40:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't get it...its ugly as hell and nothing that great as features over any other single stack 9mm. Not to reiterate the entire thread, but here are the features that appeal to me:
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Posted: 3/8/2014 7:57:27 PM EDT
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For those saying this design doesn't make sense.... the newly announced Walther CCP is very similar in several ways to the R51. To include claimed low slide retraction force. Apparently the market research isn't that far off.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 5:04:14 AM EDT
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I'm interested as I'm looking for a new CCW with the described features. One thing about Remington is that they have several manufacturing plants across the US not counting what/who Freedom owns. Illion NY main plant; Mayfield KY makes their .22s; Lonoke AR ammo plant, Madison NC corp HQ; Pineville NC Para USA plant; Hunstville AL, Mona UT, Elizabethtown KY-research facility.
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Posted: 3/9/2014 6:02:49 PM EDT
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I just don't get it...its ugly as hell and nothing that great as features over any other single stack 9mm. Ugly? It's a helluva lot better looking than the Shield, Nano, LC9, etc. I think it's one of the best looking compacts to come out in a while, let alone the fact that it features a metal frame. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 7:18:33 PM EDT
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For those saying this design doesn't make sense.... the newly announced Walther CCP is very similar in several ways to the R51. To include claimed low slide retraction force. Apparently the market research isn't that far off. Also doing the same thing that people are pissed about Glock not doing. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 8:36:50 PM EDT
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For those saying this design doesn't make sense.... the newly announced Walther CCP is very similar in several ways to the R51. To include claimed low slide retraction force. Apparently the market research isn't that far off. Also doing the same thing that people are pissed about Glock not doing. Yup. |
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Posted: 3/9/2014 9:58:01 PM EDT
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When all of you guys buy this gun for carry, I'll be anxious to hear if you get tired of its weight. I bought an MK9 Kahr for CCW because of its size about 13 yrs ago. I carried it daily for 4-5 yrs. The G27 Glock that I carry now feels lighter and holds many more rounds. This new gun by Rem might make a cool range toy though.
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Posted: 3/10/2014 12:46:42 AM EDT
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A couple over $500, one heading to $600 on Gun Broker. I'm glad I'm not set on being the first guy to buy an untested gun for hundreds above retail. The prices on Gunbroker are ludicrous. Ain't got no time fo dat! I was at my local shop on Saturday, putting down some more money on my Arsenal SLR-104FR special order (just came in). After that was done, the clerk said "hey, got something in that you might like", walked over to the compact pistol case and handed me a new R-51. Asked to see the box, as I was wondering what it came with. Out came a huge green cardboard box, foam-lined, with a manual, cable lock, and one spare magazine. Price was $399+tax, so $432 OTD. Decided to cancel a long-term special order on a Marlin Papoose and put the money down on the Remington. I'll have it after I pay off the Arsenal.
I liked the way it felt in the hand, the grip safety was easy to activate, magazine release, slide release, slide was easy to retract, etc. I'm looking forward to it. This was the first one they got in; when I got home I checked prices on Gunbroker and laughed. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 1:55:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The prices on Gunbroker are ludicrous. Ain't got no time fo dat! I was at my local shop on Saturday, putting down some more money on my Arsenal SLR-104FR special order (just came in). After that was done, the clerk said "hey, got something in that you might like", walked over to the compact pistol case and handed me a new R-51. Asked to see the box, as I was wondering what it came with. Out came a huge green cardboard box, foam-lined, with a manual, cable lock, and one spare magazine. Price was $399+tax, so $432 OTD. Decided to cancel a long-term special order on a Marlin Papoose and put the money down on the Remington. I'll have it after I pay off the Arsenal. I liked the way it felt in the hand, the grip safety was easy to activate, magazine release, slide release, slide was easy to retract, etc. I'm looking forward to it. This was the first one they got in; when I got home I checked prices on Gunbroker and laughed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A couple over $500, one heading to $600 on Gun Broker. I'm glad I'm not set on being the first guy to buy an untested gun for hundreds above retail. The prices on Gunbroker are ludicrous. Ain't got no time fo dat! I was at my local shop on Saturday, putting down some more money on my Arsenal SLR-104FR special order (just came in). After that was done, the clerk said "hey, got something in that you might like", walked over to the compact pistol case and handed me a new R-51. Asked to see the box, as I was wondering what it came with. Out came a huge green cardboard box, foam-lined, with a manual, cable lock, and one spare magazine. Price was $399+tax, so $432 OTD. Decided to cancel a long-term special order on a Marlin Papoose and put the money down on the Remington. I'll have it after I pay off the Arsenal. I liked the way it felt in the hand, the grip safety was easy to activate, magazine release, slide release, slide was easy to retract, etc. I'm looking forward to it. This was the first one they got in; when I got home I checked prices on Gunbroker and laughed. Super. I look forward to your review once you get it home. |
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Posted: 3/10/2014 2:41:37 PM EDT
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When all of you guys buy this gun for carry, I'll be anxious to hear if you get tired of its weight. I bought an MK9 Kahr for CCW because of its size about 13 yrs ago. I carried it daily for 4-5 yrs. The G27 Glock that I carry now feels lighter and holds many more rounds. This new gun by Rem might make a cool range toy though. Kahr MK9 empty weight is 22.1oz Glock 27 empty weight is 21.9oz Loaded the 27 is going to be heavier. Remington R51 weight is called out as 22oz. |
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