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Posted: 8/1/2012 4:02:42 AM
I would recommend reading some of these articles and then re-evaluating whether a 1911 is the best choice for your intended purpose.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 4:06:52 AM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 4:07:12 AM by Bradd_D]
Dupe.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 6:41:49 AM
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. 1911s are no more inherently accurate than any other gun. You need to train to use the best tool for the job rather than make one you like do something it isn't made for. I like my grandpa's old hand brace. It looks cool hanging on the wall in my workshop. I would never use it in place of my hammer drill. I take care of ALL my tools. Even the ones that see rough service. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:56:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By AzNooB:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. Get a Colt Rail Gun. It sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for. You were under the impression I was looking for something? Read my original post please.  what? Just go get it man. You don't need our permission or validation.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 9:02:02 AM
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By AzNooB:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. Get a Colt Rail Gun. It sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for. You were under the impression I was looking for something? Read my original post please. what? Just go get it man. You don't need our permission or validation.
trade your GLock in on it too Agreed. The OP came here to ask for opinions, then crapped on the opinions given. Did you expect us to be horrified? Beg you to not abuse a Colt rail gun? Nobody cares, it's nothing special. Do what you want with your pistol. Then you slam Glocks, did you expect Glock owners to be offended? Again, no own cares. To each his own, it doesn't effect us if your pistol locks up when your life depends on it. We won't be there. We simply suggested there may be a better tool for the job. The sports car analogy given a few posts back has merit, I suggest you reread it. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 9:32:03 AM
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
I am considering buying a rail gun from Colt as an all purpose beater, carrier, shooter, range toy, camp fire gun, and night stand defender. And hopefully it will be retired one day as an heirloom. I'm taliking, just plain old don't care. Throw it in the dirt, under the car seat, never clean it, never lube, not have to worry about it. Are there any objections to me using a gun in this way? Particularly such a nice 1911? I want it to be a GUN, a work horse, and a tool. Excellent idea; what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 10:02:10 AM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 10:54:50 AM by TheJeanyus]
Find a USP 45 if you don't want a Glock. I would not trust a 1911 to run without being lubed once in a while.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 10:16:57 AM
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. Funny, I had no issues hitting torso sized steel at 150yds offhand with my stock (other than sights) gen4 g17. Maybe I got a defective one. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 10:39:39 AM
Sadly, $1000 won't buy the 1911 it once would. Functionally the Rail Gun is little more than a 1991 with a rail and beavertail. Still, you could already have bought one and had a case of ammo downrange by now. Get about five McCormick Powermags and go to work.
If anything breaks off, replace it with an EGW part and keep going. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:28:23 AM
Originally Posted By Garandboy:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By AzNooB:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. Get a Colt Rail Gun. It sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for. You were under the impression I was looking for something? Read my original post please. what? Just go get it man. You don't need our permission or validation.
trade your GLock in on it too Agreed. The OP came here to ask for opinions, then crapped on the opinions given. Did you expect us to be horrified? Beg you to not abuse a Colt rail gun? Nobody cares, it's nothing special. Do what you want with your pistol. Then you slam Glocks, did you expect Glock owners to be offended? Again, no own cares. To each his own, it doesn't effect us if your pistol locks up when your life depends on it. We won't be there. We simply suggested there may be a better tool for the job. The sports car analogy given a few posts back has merit, I suggest you reread it. I refuse to comment further because you are now, to use the valcour, Butthurt. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:35:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Some report less than a 12,000 life cycle. 12k round life cycle? Why would the rail gun be significantly different than any other series 80? Find the USMC test data, they had frame and slide cracks on a high % of test firearms before they hit the 12,000 round mark. All I can do is guess why, different recoil system, stress rises out the wazoo. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:58:50 AM
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Originally Posted By dasu:
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Some report less than a 12,000 life cycle. 12k round life cycle? Why would the rail gun be significantly different than any other series 80? Find the USMC test data, they had frame and slide cracks on a high % of test firearms before they hit the 12,000 round mark. All I can do is guess why, different recoil system, stress rises out the wazoo. i'm sure the MARSOC candidate was a step above the commercial railgun as well. whats crazy is, Colts did the best, and even it failed pretty badly. none of the candidates actually passed the testing OP, since you dont like Glock, what about the M&P? |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 1:17:12 PM
OP get yourself a CZ75
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Posted: 8/1/2012 2:10:37 PM
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By Chris_1522:
So....you want to bet your life on a gun...you want to not take care of it....and you want it to be a 1911... Pardon me.... 
No kidding. Even the Marines are finding out that even with maintenance the 1911 is a fickle gun. I love 1911s, but they're not to hell and back reliable beaters. Originally Posted By Grudgie:6
I don't like GLOCKS dam it! I am not buying a Glock. I only like 1911s. And I don't want to buy a cheapo 1911 just because of the way I want to treat it. Ok, maby I mis-spoke about not cleaning it. I only wanted to express the way I look at it. I just want a GOOD quality 1911 that I don't have to worry about miticuliously cleaning and maintaining rust and carbon buildup. A gun that I don't have to worry about scratching or maintaining collector's value. Hey guys, I'm looking for a sports-car. I'm looking for something that can go offroad, be beaten up, can get covered in mud and go through snow with no issues. What kind of sports-car should I get? I don't like 4WD Jeeps dam it! I am not buying a 4WD Jeep! I only like sports-cars. And I don't want to buy a cheap sports-car just because of the way I want to treat it. I just want a GOOD quality sports-car that I don't have to worry about meticulously cleaning and maintaining. A sports-car I don't have to worry about scratching or maintaining collectors value. Seriously, correct tool for the job. You don't need to get a Glock, however, you're looking at the opposite end of the spectrum utility-wise. I love 1911s, but they just aren't built or designed to be maintenance free beaters. Post of the year FTMFW! 
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Posted: 8/1/2012 2:28:26 PM
OP, in all seriousness a SIG Mk25 would be a great choice for what you want to do
Reliability- check Comfy- check Accurite- check Great trigger- check Corrosion resistant- check Expensive enough to i mpress your friends- check Like stated above, nobody cares that you want to abuse a Colt, its just reality that without routine cleaning and lube 1911 is very likely to have problems... period |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 4:29:29 PM
Originally Posted By TheMercenary:
OP, in all seriousness a SIG Mk25 would be a great choice for what you want to do Reliability- check Comfy- check Accurite- check Great trigger- check Corrosion resistant- check Expensive enough to i mpress your friends- check Like stated above, nobody cares that you want to abuse a Colt, its just reality that without routine cleaning and lube 1911 is very likely to have problems... period Kind of agree. Or an all stainless P220 |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 5:22:26 PM
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Kind of agree. Or an all stainless P220 Word That would probably fit the OP even better since its a .45ACP like the 1911 You know I'm Glock fanboy, but my new P229R E2 has me really warming up to the new SIG's I still don't think that it carries as well as a G19, but then again what does 
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Posted: 8/1/2012 5:57:50 PM
Don't listen to all this Glock loving bullshit. You're lucky to get one that runs these days, and Sig's quality is shit thanks to Cohen.
Get the Rail Gun, you will love it... I love mine.  Oh, but do clean it and lube it once in a while.  |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 6:48:06 PM
If not dead set on a 45, perhaps a CZ75?
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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:45:47 PM
Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:
Don't listen to all this Glock loving bullshit. You're lucky to get one that runs these days, and Sig's quality is shit thanks to Cohen. Get the Rail Gun, you will love it... I love mine.
Oh, but do clean it and lube it once in a while.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:19:19 PM
Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:
Don't listen to all this Glock loving bullshit. You're lucky to get one that runs these days, and Sig's quality is shit thanks to Cohen. Get the Rail Gun, you will love it... I love mine.
Oh, but do clean it and lube it once in a while.
+1 Glock seem to have lots of problems Sig same as glock Except I bet chances are good for the MK25 and the german P226 Colt Even my S 80 Gen1 Combat Elite ran great no feeding problems what so ever! I cant see a rail causing problems. Matter of fact the only 1911 I will own is a Colt 70S or there 80S But then again I keep all my hanguns clean |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 9:32:24 PM
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By Garandboy:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By AzNooB:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. Get a Colt Rail Gun. It sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for. You were under the impression I was looking for something? Read my original post please. what? Just go get it man. You don't need our permission or validation.
trade your GLock in on it too Agreed. The OP came here to ask for opinions, then crapped on the opinions given. Did you expect us to be horrified? Beg you to not abuse a Colt rail gun? Nobody cares, it's nothing special. Do what you want with your pistol. Then you slam Glocks, did you expect Glock owners to be offended? Again, no own cares. To each his own, it doesn't effect us if your pistol locks up when your life depends on it. We won't be there. We simply suggested there may be a better tool for the job. The sports car analogy given a few posts back has merit, I suggest you reread it. I refuse to comment further because you are now, to use the valcour, Butthurt. Ok, silly troll. 
What makes you think I'm butt hurt? Please don't compliment yourself. What did I say say that would ever give you that impression. I own a 1911 and a Glock or two. I know how each behaves under different conditions. I also own M&P, FN, and H&K pistols that would be better suited for what you "pretend" to want to accomplish. You came here to stir shit, I didn't. Take a good hard look at the majority of responses to your silly thread and see who is in the minority. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 9:38:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Garandboy:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By Garandboy:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Originally Posted By AzNooB:
Originally Posted By Grudgie:
Only I hate the way Glcoks fit and the safest place to be when it goes bang is right infront of the barrel. I have heard bad things about some of the parts in them and I just think they are plain ugly. Plus, I HAVE a Glock. And I do not like it. I don't want to spend the rest of my life with it. 1911s are accurate and I would rather spend the rest of my life with Colt than Glock. Get a Colt Rail Gun. It sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for. You were under the impression I was looking for something? Read my original post please. what? Just go get it man. You don't need our permission or validation.
trade your GLock in on it too Agreed. The OP came here to ask for opinions, then crapped on the opinions given. Did you expect us to be horrified? Beg you to not abuse a Colt rail gun? Nobody cares, it's nothing special. Do what you want with your pistol. Then you slam Glocks, did you expect Glock owners to be offended? Again, no own cares. To each his own, it doesn't effect us if your pistol locks up when your life depends on it. We won't be there. We simply suggested there may be a better tool for the job. The sports car analogy given a few posts back has merit, I suggest you reread it. I refuse to comment further because you are now, to use the valcour, Butthurt. Ok, silly troll.
What makes you think I'm butt hurt? Please don't compliment yourself. What did I say say that would ever give you that impression. I own a 1911 and a Glock or two. I know how each behaves under different conditions. I also own M&P, FN, and H&K pistols that would be better suited for what you "pretend" to want to accomplish. You came here to stir shit, I didn't. Take a good hard look at the majority of responses to your silly thread and see who is in the minority. agreed troll thread
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:59:09 PM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 11:59:58 PM by garretts1776]
why do you want to "knock around" a weapon you say you will trust?
I am a 1911 guy and run my kimber dry and it has never had a hiccup in 6k rds, it has a worn finish but thats it. My perfect gun that I trust with my life everyday. BUT WOULD I INTENTIONALLY NEGLECT IT??? no because then it may not be able to be trusted everyday! the simple rule I learned when I was a kid––> Take care of your guns and they will take care of you. not all 1911s are made well, all mine are and I take care of them. the only maintenance they require now is cleaning and spring changes just because I'm OCD. Many 1911s do in fact take maintenance, though not nearly as much as glock fanboys say they do. I can't speak for the new colts either. I would never do what you describe to a weapon unless it was a cheap revolver or shotgun, but it sure as fuck wouldn't be a weapon id reach for in a shitty situation. Bottom line, yes I 100% agree you should get a 5" 1911 in .45acp as a workhorse and defensive tool, but it should not be put through the abuse that you plan on putting it through. its senseless...
On another note, don't come in here asking a question like that because glock vultures circle and jump at the chance to bash 1911 and squawk glock all day long. and when you come in makin a trollish thread, I have to listen to their bullshit and dan screaming "glock 19". then after you asked for opinions and apparently permission, you lash out at everybody...wtf man? chill out a little bit |
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Posted: 8/2/2012 9:31:52 AM
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Is it just me or does this thread seem totally TROLL like.
The 1911 would fit your bill if and I say IF you clean, maintain, and treat it like it was intended to be treated. I carried a 1911 for awhile in Iraq and you want to know something I HAD TO clean it. IF I did not it would fail period end of story. |
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