 the_great_mantis 
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Posted: 6/29/2012 5:02:21 PM
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Posted: 6/29/2012 5:31:19 PM
The perception that dirt and such get into the action easier.
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Hero
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Posted: 6/29/2012 6:00:57 PM
Most semi-auto handguns utilize a modified Browning action in which the barrel locks into the breach in the top of the ejection port opening in the slide. An open slide design cannot do this and instead uses a falling locking block like the Beretta 92/M9 or Walther P38. Just a different way of doing things, but the falling locking block adds a different part to the system. Some older Berettas had issues with the service life of the locking block before it was redesigned in more recent years. Some may consider the falling locking block a weakness in the open slide design.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 6:42:33 PM
Because the open slide design is antiquated and should have been done with the last Walther P1 that was made.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 8:06:23 PM
Originally Posted By BlitzPig:
Because the open slide design is antiquated and should have been done with the last Walther P1 that was made. Yeah, right.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 8:28:15 PM
Glad you agree.
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DanTSX
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Posted: 6/29/2012 9:53:06 PM
why aren't all guns 1911?
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Posted: 6/29/2012 10:22:32 PM
As previously stated, the open slide designs aren't compatible with the Browning rising barrel system that most modern manufacturers have adopted to one extent or another.
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Chris_1522
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Posted: 6/30/2012 10:32:57 AM
You could build a Browning style tilt barrel pistol with an open slide and locking lugs on either side of the chamber fitting into recesses on the inside of the slide, if you were so inclined.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 10:44:21 AM
Originally Posted By Chris_1522:
You could build a Browning style tilt barrel pistol with an open slide and locking lugs on either side of the chamber fitting into recesses on the inside of the slide, if you were so inclined. Yeah but it would be kind of complex and expensive to manufacture properly compared to modern pistols that lock up on the rear of the ejection port. |
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Chris_1522
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Posted: 6/30/2012 11:05:36 AM
Wouldn't be too difficult. Much simpler than the Beretta as is.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 3:57:47 PM
I understand it's not the same but thought I'd throw it out there.... G34, 35 and the XDm competition models have a cutout. So many people can't be too worried about the dirt getting in there...
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Posted: 6/30/2012 9:06:00 PM
It is, I think, mostly just style.
"The monkey in Paris just changed hats again," to paraphrase my least favorite author. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 10:18:23 AM
The most obvious reason is that the lateral locking lugs makes the slide unnecessarily wide. Put a Glock/Sig/BHP slide next to a P-38 or Beretta 92 slide, and you will see the problem.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 5:21:29 PM
I think the last successful open slide design will be the 92FS. Beretta gave up on their "modern" open slide, the 9000s, after only a few years.
It really doesn't offer any advantages over other designs. It may have been more reliable with suppressors in the 70s & 80s but we've come a long way since then. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 8:08:21 AM
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Posted: 7/19/2012 5:43:01 PM
Because it sucks.
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Posted: 7/19/2012 7:34:51 PM
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