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Posted: 6/10/2012 2:13:56 AM
Originally Posted By sgtjefe:
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The BHP is my favorite handgun. It's too bad FN doesn't update the design a bit to make it more appealing in a market full of polymer frame 9mms and more modern metal frame guns like the CZs, but there's nothing that some relatively minor custom work can't fix. What kind of features do you have in mind? Extended safeties and slide stops and replacement triggers and hammers are all available. There's the SFS system, which is pretty neat, and works well. If you're talking about mucking with the basic design, that would be a bad idea. The fact that the HP works well after all these years and is considerably different from all the other pistols out there today is one of the major selling points. Oh, I'm not suggesting they mess with the basic design. It should always be a metal frame, SAO, double stack pistol. The safety on the Mk. IIIs is actually pretty good, so I'd leave it as is. I'm just thinking they should do some things like: offer the pistol without the magazine disconnect safety, bevel the magazine well, change the spur hammer to a C&S type that won't bite so many people, offer Novak or Heinie type sights, maybe make a version with an extended beavertail (wouldn't be all that hard to do, since the frames are cast anyways), change the finish from the epoxy or bluing to a nitride, stipple the frame...those kind of things... They do, it's called an Arcus and is made in Bulgaria. |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 2:26:00 AM
VZ makes a "Slim" grip for HPs. They really are noticably slimmer than the facgtory grips. The texturing is not very aggresive. They make others with sharper texturing if you need that. The slimmer grips make it even better if you don't have large hands.
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Posted: 6/10/2012 5:48:22 AM
This thing is so much fatter than a 1911 I don't understand why people call it slim. I'll take out the extractor and get a good look at it once I figure out how. (I assume there is a drift pin) |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 4:50:20 PM
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The HP as we know it is not the gun that Browning designed. His original design was actually a striker-fired pistol: http://www.google.com/patents?id=2DVLAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=patent+1618510&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=patent%201618510&f=false This. JMB definitely influenced what became of the Hi Power, but Deiudonne Saive should get most of the credit for what actually became the Hi Power. Saying it was JMB's " last design' is like giving Henry Ford credit for the Ford Mustang. This...the BHP is a decent...if obsolete...gun but no way it compares with the 1911. Glad you like yours, though. |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 5:37:33 PM
Originally Posted By Billy_Dee:
Nice, I want one. 
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Posted: 6/10/2012 5:46:00 PM
It's usually the guys with the mcdonalds burger eating hands that complain about hammer bite.
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Posted: 6/10/2012 6:43:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Ermac: It's usually the guys with the mcdonalds burger eating hands that complain about hammer bite. Not true. Back in the day I needed to eat BUCKETS of MacDonalds as I was painfully thin....my BHP bit the shit out of me until I removed about ten thousandths from the back section of the hammer. Oddly, it wasn't the spur biting so much as the back thickness of the hammer. I did also bob the hammer, however. |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 8:42:35 PM
Originally Posted By NVGdude:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Hi-power-herret.jpg This thing is so much fatter than a 1911 I don't understand why people call it slim. I'll take out the extractor and get a good look at it once I figure out how. (I assume there is a drift pin) Because you have an Argentinian copy that forgot to mill the "Slim" into it. They are pretty damn slim IMO, or at least feel that way. They certainly feel like they were designed and built to the minimal dimensions required, which make them feel very lithe compared to a CZ or Beretta. |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 12:08:52 AM
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Because you have an Argentinian copy that forgot to mill the "Slim" into it. I'm pretty sure the lack of the "Bronwing cut" at the muzzle end of the slide had very little to do with the grip thickness. 
Fit's 1911 holsters very well though. |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 11:48:23 AM
Originally Posted By NVGdude:
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Because you have an Argentinian copy that forgot to mill the "Slim" into it. I'm pretty sure the lack of the "Bronwing cut" at the muzzle end of the slide had very little to do with the grip thickness.
. Uh...........you do know that there are other grips available other than the factory walnut grips, right? The factory nylon "Contour" grips are MUCH thinner, as are these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9563/avs%7CMake~~Model_1=Browning__High%20Power/Product/BROWNING-HP-COMBAT-GRIPS http://www.cdnninvestments.com/brhicobochgr.html |
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ken_mays
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Posted: 6/11/2012 12:05:36 PM
Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
The factory nylon "Contour" grips are MUCH thinner, as are these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9563/avs%7CMake~~Model_1=Browning__High%20Power/Product/BROWNING-HP-COMBAT-GRIPS http://www.cdnninvestments.com/brhicobochgr.html Yes, the factory panel-cut grips make the gun feel much thicker than it is, and are a horrible design. These Hogues are pretty comfortable: 
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Posted: 6/13/2012 2:54:25 AM
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
The factory nylon "Contour" grips are MUCH thinner, as are these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9563/avs%7CMake~~Model_1=Browning__High%20Power/Product/BROWNING-HP-COMBAT-GRIPS http://www.cdnninvestments.com/brhicobochgr.html Yes, the factory panel-cut grips make the gun feel much thicker than it is, and are a horrible design. These Hogues are pretty comfortable: http://www.guntechtips.com/images/bhp-belgian.jpg The Herrets I have are the same thickness as the Hogues. Brownells has some "Navidrex" grips that are supposed to be pretty slim though. |
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ken_mays
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Posted: 6/13/2012 10:15:59 AM
Originally Posted By NVGdude:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
The factory nylon "Contour" grips are MUCH thinner, as are these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9563/avs%7CMake~~Model_1=Browning__High%20Power/Product/BROWNING-HP-COMBAT-GRIPS http://www.cdnninvestments.com/brhicobochgr.html Yes, the factory panel-cut grips make the gun feel much thicker than it is, and are a horrible design. These Hogues are pretty comfortable: http://www.guntechtips.com/images/bhp-belgian.jpg The Herrets I have are the same thickness as the Hogues. Brownells has some "Navidrex" grips that are supposed to be pretty slim though. I put a pair of the Navidrex micarta grips on my FEG. I like them, but I had to glass bed them before they would quit twisting around (the single grip screw makes a great pivot point.) This seems to be a common issue with any aftermarket HP grips from what I've seen. 
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Posted: 6/13/2012 10:53:28 AM
They are great guns, no gun collection should be without one.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:45:11 AM
Ken, that's a rather slick looking safety. Where might one acquire such an item.
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lew
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Posted: 6/14/2012 9:14:51 AM
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By NVGdude:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
The factory nylon "Contour" grips are MUCH thinner, as are these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9563/avs%7CMake~~Model_1=Browning__High%20Power/Product/BROWNING-HP-COMBAT-GRIPS http://www.cdnninvestments.com/brhicobochgr.html Yes, the factory panel-cut grips make the gun feel much thicker than it is, and are a horrible design. These Hogues are pretty comfortable: http://www.guntechtips.com/images/bhp-belgian.jpg The Herrets I have are the same thickness as the Hogues. Brownells has some "Navidrex" grips that are supposed to be pretty slim though. I put a pair of the Navidrex micarta grips on my FEG. I like them, but I had to glass bed them before they would quit twisting around (the single grip screw makes a great pivot point.) This seems to be a common issue with any aftermarket HP grips from what I've seen. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff35/kemays/bhp11.jpg That is a fantastic looking HP. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 11:42:59 AM
Originally Posted By lew:
That is a fantastic looking HP. Thanks! I have a little write-up describing the changes I made here: http://www.guntechtips.com/feg/feg.htm |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:00:55 AM
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By lew:
That is a fantastic looking HP. Thanks! I have a little write-up describing the changes I made here: http://www.guntechtips.com/feg/feg.htm Cool write-up. If only I had my own shop equipment...  |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 2:52:20 PM
[Last Edit: 6/17/2012 2:56:47 PM by LastRites]
NVGDUDE, you may be in need of a new extractor spring as that replacement has help many who have had issues. Kens safety is a FEG part that was a Charles Daly part, you may/might find them at Numrich gun parts. For those who want a better reset after removal of the mag disconnect, add a 2 coil trigger reset spring.
I would never part with my alloy framed HP, at 25oz it is a joy to carry and shoot! |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 4:13:15 PM
Originally Posted By NVGdude:
Ken, that's a rather slick looking safety. Where might one acquire such an item. Sorry, I'm just now seeing your question. It was a factory FEG part, but if I had to buy something similar today, I'd go for the C&S extended safety. http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=BHPsaf |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 6:29:13 PM
How are the Hungarian versions? Ive got a local deal the seems good but don't know any of that batch.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 6:37:52 PM
Originally Posted By mfdif:
How are the Hungarian versions? Ive got a local deal the seems good but don't know any of that batch. Very good. gaining a lot of popularity now that they FN/Browning guns are just getting stupid expensive duck over to the browning section under handguns. There are several threads about the FEG hi powers. |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 6:40:01 PM
Originally Posted By mfdif:
How are the Hungarian versions? Ive got a local deal the seems good but don't know any of that batch. http://feghp.blogspot.com/ Make sure you get one with the Browning lockup.....FEG went to using the S&W system later on |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:01:54 PM
[Last Edit: 6/19/2012 2:04:13 PM by LastRites]
Looking at buying another at one of my local fun shops!
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Posted: 6/20/2012 8:27:58 PM
The Hi Powers are classics and good guns. I would not currently choose one as my primary sidearm (nor would I choose a 1911) but still own and appreciate them. I've had the Browning and Arcus and FM clones, the one I kept was the FM though all worked well. I've played with several FEGs and Charles Dalys, they were all sloppy and had more tools marks than the other clones. I tend to get bit by the hammer but have modified the ring style on my FM to a shorter spur which doesn't bit me as bad.
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