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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:46:47 PM
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SGocka
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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:53:43 PM
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I have both. I like the LCP better. Both have been 100% though. Ruger just looks better.
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mamasboy
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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:37:13 PM
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sel366
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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:42:48 PM
Keltec because that's what I carry as a bug. No experience with the Ruger.
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stevemc
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Posted: 5/5/2012 11:18:12 PM
They will both more than likely work fine, but the LCP has a better track record.
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FourStringSlinger
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Posted: 5/5/2012 11:18:26 PM
Had both. Keltec was a lemon. Still have the Ruger, it's been 100%.
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shadowcop
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Posted: 5/6/2012 12:48:34 AM
I had one of the first 1000 produced. They had some bugs to work out.
I qualified with it to 25 yards to carry as a back up. The take down pin was walking out during quals. So I sent it back to Keltec along with a copy of my L.E. ID. When it was returned in 2 weeks, it was completely redone with the new style slide, throated and polished chamber/feed ramp. It has run 100% since. I use Fed Hydro Shoks in it. Dave N |
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GLOCKREAPER
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Posted: 5/6/2012 1:52:19 AM
I have both and there is no meaningful difference.
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Posted: 5/6/2012 4:20:18 AM
For the prices you mentioned I would go with the Ruger. But around my location the Ruger goes for a little over $300 and the Keltec can be had for a little over $200. In that respect I would probably go with the Keltec.
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Landric
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:41:58 AM
Functionally they are pretty similar. However, the Ruger has a better finish and has a manual slide lock. The Kel-Tec P3AT has no provision for locking the slide open. As such the KT might not be allowed at some ranges. My preference is for the Ruger, though I have a KT P32 that I am happy with also.
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BulletBait
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Posted: 5/6/2012 11:44:48 AM
I have a Ruger, a friend has the KT.
Put both in your hand and pic the one that feels better. We're both happy with our choices. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:58:48 PM
I had a KT P3AT few years ago as a gift. The only ammo it would reliably shoot was my own reloads. I pulled the trigger at the range one day and things went BOING inside it and that was that. I sent it back to the factory and they fixed it and I sold it.
I received a Ruger LCP for Christmas last year and it has never failed with about 200 rounds through it, mixed varieties including lead reloads. |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 2:33:51 AM
Price obviously matters here but I've owned two P3ATs and shot an LCP many many times. My personal choice would be a P238 if you want a good trigger, useable sights, no recoil and a good grip without the need for sleeves, tape or pinky extensions.
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gunnut284
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Posted: 5/7/2012 3:03:46 AM
Ruger. I have both and they both work now but the KelTec needed a little help. The LCP has been perfect from day one. The KelTec I bought used and the takedown pin would walk out on each shot. I contacted KT and they sent a new spring and pin and that seems to have fixed it. I did have a KT P-32 that worked perfectly. Still I would buy the Ruger over the KT in a heartbeat.
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ex_dsmr
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Posted: 5/7/2012 11:16:01 AM
Ruger- by a long shot.
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EdgecrusherXES_45
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Posted: 5/7/2012 3:48:06 PM
Ruger
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Posted: 5/7/2012 5:32:40 PM
Truth be told, they are basically the same gun. Rugers generally get more fluff and buff, while Kel Tec lets the consumer do that. Kel Tecs come from the factory with a lot of plastic flashing, burrs on the metal and generally in rough shape. If you don't want a gun you have to fluff and buff, get the Ruger. If you don't mind doing that then save a few bucks and get the Kel Tec.
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BallisticTip
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Posted: 5/7/2012 6:25:42 PM
Ruger LCP |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 7:44:08 PM
Originally Posted By MCBallpeen:
Truth be told, they are basically the same gun. Rugers generally get more fluff and buff, while Kel Tec lets the consumer do that. Kel Tecs come from the factory with a lot of plastic flashing, burrs on the metal and generally in rough shape. If you don't want a gun you have to fluff and buff, get the Ruger. If you don't mind doing that then save a few bucks and get the Kel Tec. Please elaborate on your experience. Mine has been exactly the opposite of yours. |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 7:44:20 PM
I have a P3AT, the ruger is better fit and finish wise, that said never have had any issues with the keltec.
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Posted: 5/7/2012 8:42:42 PM
The LCP is inifinitely better in fit and finish. Otherwise the KT is a great gun. If you look you can find an LCP for around 275-290.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:42:37 AM
Originally Posted By gmtmaster:
Originally Posted By MCBallpeen:
Truth be told, they are basically the same gun. Rugers generally get more fluff and buff, while Kel Tec lets the consumer do that. Kel Tecs come from the factory with a lot of plastic flashing, burrs on the metal and generally in rough shape. If you don't want a gun you have to fluff and buff, get the Ruger. If you don't mind doing that then save a few bucks and get the Kel Tec. Please elaborate on your experience. Mine has been exactly the opposite of yours. Hmm, lets see. I have an LCP that runs 100% even with Buffalo Bore ammo and a P-32 that doesn't function at all with ball ammo. The Kel Tec P-32 had a lot of plastic flashing on it from the factory, the Ruger LCP had none. The P-32 is my very last Kel Tec gun, the Ruger will be one of many. The P-32 wouldn't be so bad if the slide didn't lock back after every round with a loaded magazine in the gun and if they removed all of the plastic flashing and metal burrs at the factory. Oh I solved the problem with the flashing/burrs and the problen with the slide locking back on a loaded magazine, but it's shaken my confidence in Kel Tec. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:24:59 AM
I can't speak for the p3at cause I've never shot one but one thing I want to point out that others haven't mentioned that I feel is something worth mentioning is the magazines on the LCP.
They're not that cheap but they are quality which is something alot of pocket guns have lacked. I have no problems paying extra for magazines to take them out of the equation when it comes to having a reliable pocket pistol, it's not like I need to buy a large amount for this gun anyways. |
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Landric
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:37:56 PM
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
I can't speak for the p3at cause I've never shot one but one thing I want to point out that others haven't mentioned that I feel is something worth mentioning is the magazines on the LCP. They're not that cheap but they are quality which is something alot of pocket guns have lacked. I have no problems paying extra for magazines to take them out of the equation when it comes to having a reliable pocket pistol, it's not like I need to buy a large amount for this gun anyways. I agree with you, but in this case its moot. Mec-Gar makes the magazines for both the LCP and P3AT, they are of equal (excellent) quality. |
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Posted: 5/11/2012 8:22:08 PM
I had an early P3AT without the external extractor spring. and there is a potential for failure to fire with both it and the LCP I replaced it with... the polymer trigger is connected to the draw bar with a "trigger axis block"... connecting the trigger to this block is a steel pin visible behind the trigger...on the P3AT this pin slipped down, and came out of the top of the axis block, which didn't rotate the trigger bar far enough to release the sear... the trigger bottomed out on the frame first...and would not fire. ... the pin is very visible in this slipped position
so with an unloaded pistol...make sure the pin is pushed up and positively seated, then put a dab of two part epoxy on the trigger to lock it in place.... |
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Posted: 5/11/2012 8:54:22 PM
When I buy anything for carry, even a pocket gun I put hundreds of rounds through it before I even consider carrying it. I got an LCP because I liked the one my friend had. It's not a long range gun or something you would shoot at the range all day that's for sure. It's a close range "get off me" pocket gun. It's a Ruger and they have a reputation. It works and works and works. That's what I like.
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