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Posted: 9/20/2011 4:19:43 PM
Bought a PF-9 2 months ago. Took it home, disassembled it, gave it a good scrubbing and lube with CLP, reassembled it, and have been shooting it regularly ever since. No failures of any kind. FMJ, hollowponts. I am very pleased with it. I keep it clean and lubed.
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Posted: 9/25/2011 9:15:44 PM

Originally Posted By Shackelton1:
I bet your right about that! Most people just don't want to accept that they are the issue when it comes to shooting. Its just easier to blame the hardware. But as stated before its like trying something totally new failing and then blaming someone or something else b/c you didn't know any better. Its a solid gun and I have not had any issues w/ mine. It just took a little research on KTOG to see what the common issues were before I even ran it out at the range or bought one. I for one really like it though.


I would also tend to agree that for many it is an issue of operator error as opposed to mechanical error. I've got an old Davis .380 that is extremely touchy about how it is held. When I first started shooting that little chrome .380, it was constantly jamming and also biting into my hand between the thumb and index finger. Over time, I learned how to hold it properly. It no longer bites my hand, and I can empty the 5 rd mag without a jam most times. I still have some issues at the range, but that is usually due to me relaxing my grip too much after a couple mags.
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Posted: 9/25/2011 9:30:35 PM
if the Ruger is to have a safety, it would be nice if they had an ambi safety or a reversible one. Some folks like their backup gun on the weak side.
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Posted: 11/18/2011 2:33:38 PM
Originally Posted By tfod:
if the Ruger is to have a safety, it would be nice if they had an ambi safety or a reversible one. Some folks like their backup gun on the weak side.


And other folks are left handed The PF 9 has been on my list for a long time, I might go get one today.
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Posted: 11/21/2011 1:31:28 PM
Picked up a PF-9 at a local gun show a couple days ago for $229. My first Kel-tec & so far(not shot it yet) I really like it for what it is. I have a Ruger LCP and I love it, but wanted something with a little more punch. I like having 9mm in a size not too terribly bigger than the LCP. The Ruger LC-9 was a no go for me because of all the extra safety stuff, mainly the mag release safety. Been reading all the info I can about the PF-9 & trying to figure out what kind of holster I want to go with. Read about the whole "fluff and buff" stuff, but I think I'm going to hold off on that till after I shoot it. I want to see how it runs completely stock first. If it runs fine as is, I'll most likely skip that.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 2:15:57 AM
I've had a PF-9 for 3 years and despite shooting it relatively infrequently have experienced 3 broken parts. The first was the ejector, which Kel-Tec shipped to me and I installed myself. The hammer spring was the next to go a few months later. When I picked it up at Kel-Tec after repairs they said they'd replaced the slide (micro-crack I was unaware of) and installed the upgraded metal mag release. A few weeks ago the firing pin broke and had to be replaced.

I don't fire nickel-plated ammo in this pistol, and have always used A-Zoom snap caps when dry firing it. After 3 failures I don't feel comfortable carrying it even though I love the size and weight. None of my other pistols or revolvers have failed even once despite experiencing much heavier use. I've reluctantly adopted the Ruger LCP, a rip-off of the Kel-Tec P3AT in the hope it will prove more reliable for carry on hot mid-summer Florida days.

By the way, when I say I fired the PF-9 "infrequently" I mean that I probably fired less than 1,000 rounds in 3 years. It just isn't that much fun to shoot even after sanding down ridges on the frame and trigger :-). But I'd still carry it if I believed it would go bang every time I pulled the trigger.
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Posted: 1/18/2012 4:10:34 PM
I heard the loaded chamber indicator and mag release safety were due to California regulations.

Cali's a huge market and thier guns laws are very restictive compared to here in the south.

Seems that lately in this country it's either about the regulations or the $ or in this case both.
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Posted: 1/19/2012 11:30:01 AM
Originally Posted By ATLcarry:
I heard the loaded chamber indicator and mag release safety were due to California regulations.

Cali's a huge market and thier guns laws are very restictive compared to here in the south.

Seems that lately in this country it's either about the regulations or the $ or in this case both.


How is a gun made strictly for Concealed Carry made according to California regulations? Cali is not a huge market for concealed carry, is it?
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Posted: 1/20/2012 4:18:07 PM
I hear it's near impossible to get a permit in some places in California, but mag safety and loaded chamber indicators are either due to lawyers or regulations.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 12:41:33 PM
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I shot both at the shop, and bought the Ruger. As mentioned previously, the Kel-Tec is much snappier and harder to maintain a grip on. I was also much more accurate with the Ruger. I feel that the LC9 is the perfect size with the flat mag floorplate and I'm happy with what I paid. The trigger sucked in both, so I might install the aftermarket trigger parts in it, does the Kel-Tec have that option?

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Posted: 3/13/2012 7:52:35 PM
I love my pf-9, with the +1 mag extension the recoil is better. I carry this gun everywhere because it is so easy to carry. I have no experience with the lc-9 But, I dont see enough of a difference to pay $100+.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 11:10:57 PM
I have the LC9 and love everything about it except the trigger. The trigger pull is insanely ridiculously long and may get you in trouble in a SHTF situation. The trigger pull also screws up accuracy. I'm really torn between keeping it and selling it but I like the idea of having a pocket 9MM that goes bang every time with 100% reliability. Sorry, but I've seen enough problems with the Kel-Tec to not have 100% confidence in it. There is a trigger pull kit for the LC9 but it's expensive and not an easy install for those without plenty of experience taking guns apart. That's kind of an insult on top of the extra price of the LC9 over the Kel-Tec. There's not much to the LC9 trigger pull kit. Somebody needs to make that kit for $20.
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