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Posted: 8/8/2015 10:04:46 PM EDT
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I would say it depends on the use. For a plinker, I would get the 82. You can sometimes find Mak ammo fairly cheap still. If you are looking at possibly carrying, I would go with the .380 due to the availability of different carry ammo. If you reload, that is a different story though. I have an 82 and reload HPs for Mak and would rather use my reloaded Mak HP's than .380 stuff.
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Posted: 8/8/2015 10:52:18 PM EDT
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Dumb question but is the mak quite a bit more powerful than .380?
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Posted: 8/9/2015 12:18:11 AM EDT
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Not a whole helluva lot, but every little bit helps.
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Posted: 8/9/2015 5:07:18 AM EDT
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Dumb question but is the mak quite a bit more powerful than .380? There are some +p 380 rounds that have more pop than 9x18, and the CZ won't have any problem handling +p rounds. Also note that the CZ 83 was available chambered in 9x18 (and 32 acp) in addition to .380. The main difference between the 82 and 83 is that the 83 was finished much nicer than the 82. |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 7:54:11 AM EDT
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Get both of course.
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Posted: 8/9/2015 9:40:18 AM EDT
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I do reload for .380. I found several 83 on gunbroker that CDI is selling. Some pretty cheap.
I did bid on one. LOL |
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Posted: 8/9/2015 11:26:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a whole helluva lot, but every little bit helps. |
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Posted: 8/10/2015 6:41:51 PM EDT
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It sure seem like their are not many 82 out their. If it was not for CDI their would not be many 83 either.
Would these be a bear to take apart and refinish? Also I read that they have polygonal rifling. The pictures of the ones I looked like land and groove. thanks again |
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Posted: 8/10/2015 7:19:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sure seem like their are not many 82 out their. If it was not for CDI their would not be many 83 either. Would these be a bear to take apart and refinish? Also I read that they have polygonal rifling. The pictures of the ones I looked like land and groove. thanks again |
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Posted: 8/10/2015 7:58:59 PM EDT
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That would be awesome if you can take some picture or videos.
thanks again |
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Posted: 8/12/2015 1:33:13 AM EDT
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If you are buying it to collect or just for the hell of it, either one will do. That said, I have an 83 and was surprised by how jarring the recoil impulse was. Not that there was a lot of recoil- because there isn't, but rather that the gun feels like it's beating itself to death with each shot. It's not super fun to shoot a whole lot due to this. I think I shot a couple mags, cleaned it, and put it away.
If I were looking again, I'd seek the 7.65 browning version of the 83. More rare. |
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Posted: 8/16/2015 3:52:25 PM EDT
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I did get the 83, Great little gun very happy with it.
I have a chance to trade a 92s for a cz82. While owning the 83 is it stupid to get the 82? I went a head and traded for the 82. Can't wait to get it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 1:06:04 AM EDT
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If you are buying it to collect or just for the hell of it, either one will do. That said, I have an 83 and was surprised by how jarring the recoil impulse was. Not that there was a lot of recoil- because there isn't, but rather that the gun feels like it's beating itself to death with each shot. It's not super fun to shoot a whole lot due to this. I think I shot a couple mags, cleaned it, and put it away. If I were looking again, I'd seek the 7.65 browning version of the 83. More rare. Well known issue. Wolf makes new extra power recoil springs. Get the top most lb. one. It will make it shootable again. These are of course straight blow back with no locking mechanism. Any pistol that operates that way will recoil harder than lock up designs. Felt recoil I guess. 
I'm getting my 82s and 83s mixed up again, not sure what poundage for a 380. Maybe the second highest poundage one. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 2:42:45 PM EDT
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I got an 83 and an 82 on the way.
I shot the 83 the other day. I like it. The gun feels great in the hand. I know it goes against a lot of modern thinking. Its heavy and big for a .380. But I like it.what a great buy. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:55:03 AM EDT
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If you are buying it to collect or just for the hell of it, either one will do. That said, I have an 83 and was surprised by how jarring the recoil impulse was. Not that there was a lot of recoil- because there isn't, but rather that the gun feels like it's beating itself to death with each shot. It's not super fun to shoot a whole lot due to this. I think I shot a couple mags, cleaned it, and put it away. If I were looking again, I'd seek the 7.65 browning version of the 83. More rare. Sounds like you need a new recoil spring. Mine was like that at first too. A new recoil spring from Wolff and it went away. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:57:03 AM EDT
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It sure seem like their are not many 82 out their. If it was not for CDI their would not be many 83 either. Would these be a bear to take apart and refinish? Also I read that they have polygonal rifling. The pictures of the ones I looked like land and groove. thanks again The '82s (9x18mm) have the "special" rifling, the '83s (.32 and .380) do not. It's not really polygonal, either. Imagined a twisted, slightly flattened tube. It looks like there's no rifling at all at first. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 7:04:47 PM EDT
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It's not really polygonal, either. Imagined a twisted, slightly flattened tube. It looks like there's no rifling at all at first. You just described polygonal rifling. There's a lot of variations, but they're all polygonal. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:55:05 PM EDT
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You just described polygonal rifling. There's a lot of variations, but they're all polygonal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not really polygonal, either. Imagined a twisted, slightly flattened tube. It looks like there's no rifling at all at first. You just described polygonal rifling. There's a lot of variations, but they're all polygonal. I would imagine true polygonal rifling is, more or less, oh, I don't know....a polygon. 
Like you say there's many different types but I wouldn't consider everything called "polygonal" truly polygonal. 
Glock's rifling is a round tube with rounded lands...no straight surfaces and not really polygonal. And CZ's is simply as I described - a smashed tube, no straight walls or polygons at all. I guess I'm not the one who gets to define the term, but regardless, calling a bore that is in no way based on the form of a polygon shouldn't really be called polygonal. Just IM not so HO. |
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