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Posted: 4/10/2015 1:44:30 PM EDT
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I think most guessed 922(r) would come into play. The rest is all good news from CZ-USA. Thanks for posting armoredman.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 9:41:41 AM EDT
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I picked up an Evo 3 on Friday. I'm going to go ahead and file my form 1 this week.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 2:10:57 PM EDT
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The kit is still in larval stage, of course, but rumor has it being very affordable. Not REALLY sure what that means, but I would have to assume it wouldn't be too bad or the whole idea loses a lot of attractiveness if the thing becomes more expensive than the vaporware MPX.
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Posted: 4/15/2015 7:46:20 PM EDT
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I would say the kit from CZ will be affordable.
But if they let the flippers who dont even own a scorpion buy them all and then flip them at 5X the cost thats where the problems come in. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 4:31:01 AM EDT
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I would say the kit from CZ will be affordable. But if they let the flippers who dont even own a scorpion buy them all and then flip them at 5X the cost thats where the problems come in. Im going to guess that they will require proof that you have an approved form 1 before you can purchase the kit seeing as how they asked the atf about 922r to sell the stock. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 7:01:41 AM EDT
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That's what I'm hoping they require as well.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 7:05:38 AM EDT
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That's what I'm hoping they require as well. Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:18:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's what I'm hoping they require as well. Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:08:21 AM EDT
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That's what I'm hoping they require as well. Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. Add another +1. Wow. This reminds me of DSA holding back TP9 stocks unless you prove you have a stamp. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:11:45 AM EDT
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What need do you have for the factory stock if you don't have the stamp?
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:07:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What need do you have for the factory stock if you don't have the stamp? |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:37:36 PM EDT
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Who cares? CZ certainly shouldn't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What need do you have for the factory stock if you don't have the stamp? So your answer is neckbearding... |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:39:31 PM EDT
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Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what I'm hoping they require as well. Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. So that everyone who has gone through the trouble of getting the stamp approved to use the stock can get one without getting ass raped by those claiming to be capitalists. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 12:25:15 PM EDT
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So that everyone who has gone through the trouble of getting the stamp approved to use the stock can get one without getting ass raped by those claiming to be capitalists. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what I'm hoping they require as well. Why would anyone hope for that? Just so you can get yours? Thats ridiculous. So that everyone who has gone through the trouble of getting the stamp approved to use the stock can get one without getting ass raped by those claiming to be capitalists. You overestimate the market, and underestimate production capacity. What if i produce a non-nfa length barrel and want a stock? I cant believe anyone would agree with your reasoning for actually wanting a manufacturer to do something like that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 5:29:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2015 12:52:48 AM EDT
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Who might be making a carbine length Scorpion barrel? Only company i can think of would be CZ-USA if they bring in a 922(r) compliant Scorpion carbine. I said what if I made one for myself. Besides that, if the kit was flying off the shelves at CZ because of neckbeards, it would only serve to make it worth it to them to ramp up production. I saw a post or two about people mocking neckbeards and capitalism, but apparently they don't understand simple concepts of capitalism. |
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Posted: 5/8/2015 10:03:52 PM EDT
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Who might be making a carbine length Scorpion barrel? Only company i can think of would be CZ-USA if they bring in a 922(r) compliant Scorpion carbine. Back to what I was saying, here is a parts diagram "borrowed" from CZ-USA on what parts identified by ATFE as falling under 922(r). <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20Scorpion/Scorpion%20922r%20count_zpsbjuagwai.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20Scorpion/Scorpion%20922r%20count_zpsbjuagwai.jpg</a> Help me out with the 922(r) stuff...and i'm not at ALL familiar with 922. Ok just bought an EVO, and want to turn it into an SBR. Is that saying that all of those 16 parts need to be replaced with US made parts before I can SBR it? |
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Posted: 5/8/2015 11:45:57 PM EDT
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No, you have to have 10 or less of the identified parts be imported. That means someone has to make 6 parts inside the US to meet the standard ATFE set. Once you have those required US made parts, AND the stamp/engraving/etc., then you can build your SBR. Right now I know of maybe two or three US parts being made, mostly muzzle attachments. CZ-USA is supposed to bring out the Complaince Kit by summers end...which should give me time to raise the money for the tax stamp, too.
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Posted: 5/9/2015 5:28:31 AM EDT
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So if I'm understanding it correctly - 3 of those parts are part of the mag - so if someone like MAGPUL would build mags, that would take care of 3 out of the 6 correct?
Then the other "easy" 3 would be the pistol grip, butt-stock and flash-hider. Question. ..can I submit my application for an SBR now, and will they approve it? I realize that I would not be able actually assemble it until I would have the legal parts on hand, but I would be some months into the wait this way. |
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Posted: 5/9/2015 4:40:25 PM EDT
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several have approved form 1's already you are fine to get one just dont put the stock on till you get aproval and the 922r parts
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Posted: 5/9/2015 7:22:18 PM EDT
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Hammer, trigger, sear, disconnector. The cheapest route towards count
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Posted: 5/9/2015 10:27:29 PM EDT
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The stock adds a part - it doesn't replace one that isn't on the pistol to begin with, which leaves harder to replace, (for the layman), parts like the trigger.
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Posted: 5/17/2015 3:58:45 PM EDT
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I just brought my EVO home....it is screaming SBR me. Paperwork going the the BATFE asap....hopefully by the time the stamp gets approved, the parts will be out.
I put the safety button on the right side..even without firing it i can tell that will be a lot better. |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 8:06:50 PM EDT
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Found a place today that had a dozen and a half EVOs in stock, which surprised me. Had a machine gun, too.
I like the folding stock best, but it's kinda sexy with an MFT Minimalist too. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 1:41:21 PM EDT
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Quick question, the receiver is 2 halves of plastic bolted together. If it were to be produced in the USA wouldn't that take care of 922r Entirely and we wouldn't have to worry about getting new parts or even having to deal with this??? I think I remember hearing that one time.
The reason I ask is that my dad found one in TN where he lives and put it in layaway. I had given up on getting one and SBRing one. I don't have a trust and don't really want to wait almost a year before I got to put the stock on the pistol. Dads total price is get this "$771.00 Total". He got it because he went into the shop and they had one come in and saw him and knew he was wanting one. SO the owner made him a cash price and let him put it in layaway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, you have to have 10 or less of the identified parts be imported. That means someone has to make 6 parts inside the US to meet the standard ATFE set. Once you have those required US made parts, AND the stamp/engraving/etc., then you can build your SBR. Right now I know of maybe two or three US parts being made, mostly muzzle attachments. CZ-USA is supposed to bring out the Complaince Kit by summers end...which should give me time to raise the money for the tax stamp, too. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 6:40:13 PM EDT
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Found a place today that had a dozen and a half EVOs in stock, which surprised me. Had a machine gun, too. I like the folding stock best, but it's kinda sexy with an MFT Minimalist too. your statement requires pictures! 
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:52:19 PM EDT
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Damn it damn it damn it!!!!!!!!!!
Now I have to go buy one  I am a little concerned about mag availability and price but that just goes with being a CZ owner I guess.
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Posted: 6/16/2015 11:55:07 AM EDT
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I got three folks who want one. Anybody know who has the Skorpion's in stock for a good price?
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Posted: 6/16/2015 12:30:44 PM EDT
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I got three folks who want one. Anybody know who has the Skorpion's in stock for a good price? PSA has them for $799 with free shipping... |
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Posted: 6/17/2015 9:34:45 AM EDT
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I bought my CZ EVO this week for $730. I was looking at a MPX but kind of liked the EVO better in person plus it's $600 cheaper and they had the
Tube and SB15 pistol braces in stock also for 200. The MPX tube was back ordered and the owner said very hard to get right now most people are marking them up above MSRP was his statement. |
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Posted: 6/17/2015 12:14:47 PM EDT
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I bought my CZ EVO this week for $730. I was looking at a MPX but kind of liked the EVO better in person plus it's $600 cheaper and they had the Tube and SB15 pistol braces in stock also for 200. The MPX tube was back ordered and the owner said very hard to get right now most people are marking them up above MSRP was his statement. Can I ask where? IM me if you prefer to keep it offline. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/17/2015 3:55:13 PM EDT
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PM sent
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Posted: 6/18/2015 12:40:57 PM EDT
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PM sent pm it to me too |
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