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Posted: 6/18/2016 2:55:38 AM EDT
[#1]
My guess is somewhere around Taurus. They might be better than that, might be worse, but they don't have the track record Glock has. Seemingly good value for money.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 10:01:44 AM EDT
[#2]
I read the SCCY was a copy of the Kel-Tec P-11 with a more ergonomic frame. I'd say the best comparison would be to a Kel-Tec. I've never shot a SCCY but I used to carry a P-11 when my Department issued 5904's. My P-11 was reliable but not the easiest gun to shoot because of the DAO trigger. Big plus was the P-11 would accept the 14-15 round S&W 59/459/5904 mags. I'm not sure if the SCCY mags are interchangeable with S&W.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 10:17:52 AM EDT
[#3]
SIG 226 mags will fit in the Taurus PT 111. I do not know if they feed.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 10:21:51 AM EDT
[#4]
I bought two of them when they first hit the market, SKYY at that time. Both were POS's. Both broke and were sent back to the factory a couple of times. After the last trip to the factory, they simply went in the back of the safe. I sold both without ever shooting them again.
When they worked, they were ok, 10 round mags in a compact frame, ergonomics were decent. they shot straight., I simply did not trust them. I have heard that they improved quality and that they are decent guns now, but I will not buy another one. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 10:28:06 AM EDT
[#5]
Have a look at that barrel metallurgy on this SCCY
Avoid SCCY |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 10:33:02 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd rather have a KelTec or Taurus. But I own none of those because I prefer to spend a few more dollars and buy something of quality.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:23:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd rather have a KelTec or Taurus. But I own none of those because I prefer to spend a few more dollars and buy something of quality. Please show pics of your 16" folded PCC that takes Glock mags. Or your .22" WMR pistol. 
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:24:44 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have a look at that barrel metallurgy on this SCCY
<a href="http://s667.photobucket.com/user/Dono_01/media/sccy001_zps5cczzqfb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv35/Dono_01/sccy001_zps5cczzqfb.jpg</a> <a href="http://s667.photobucket.com/user/Dono_01/media/sccy002_zpspybjssiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv35/Dono_01/sccy002_zpspybjssiy.jpg</a> <a href="http://s667.photobucket.com/user/Dono_01/media/sccy003_zps8t9mxzev.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv35/Dono_01/sccy003_zps8t9mxzev.jpg</a> Avoid SCCY W/o a back story, the pics are meaningless. That looks like a squib followed by a non-squib, which will blow up any locked breech gun. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:32:37 PM EDT
[#9]
I never fired the one I had, it looked and felt like a better version of a Kel Tec P11, I liked the P11 I had it functioned 100%,sold the SCCY to fund some other gun, would like to buy another and actually fire it, the reading I did said the problems were with the CPX-1 and the new CPX-2 corrected the issues.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 1:03:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Please show pics of your 16" folded PCC that takes Glock mags. Or your .22" WMR pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'd rather have a KelTec or Taurus. But I own none of those because I prefer to spend a few more dollars and buy something of quality. Please show pics of your 16" folded PCC that takes Glock mags. Or your .22" WMR pistol. I don't own either of those because I have no desire to own them. In this thread the OP specifically asked about a small 9mm handgun. I actually am interested in one of the KelTec .22 Mag carbines, whenever they eventually become available. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 1:39:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't own either of those because I have no desire to own them. In this thread the OP specifically asked about a small 9mm handgun. I actually am interested in one of the KelTec .22 Mag carbines, whenever they eventually become available. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: I'd rather have a KelTec or Taurus. But I own none of those because I prefer to spend a few more dollars and buy something of quality. Please show pics of your 16" folded PCC that takes Glock mags. Or your .22" WMR pistol. I don't own either of those because I have no desire to own them. In this thread the OP specifically asked about a small 9mm handgun. I actually am interested in one of the KelTec .22 Mag carbines, whenever they eventually become available. And here you are: http://www.gunbroker.com/Rifles/BI.aspx?Keywords=CMR |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 4:04:13 PM EDT
[#12]
I have one. I like it. Warranty is the best out there. There was a case where one was destroyed in a fire and they sent the owner a replacement at no cost.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 5:22:22 PM EDT
[#13]
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I have one. I like it. Warranty is the best out there. There was a case where one was destroyed in a fire and they sent the owner a replacement at no cost. How long have you owned it and approximately how many rounds? |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 6:30:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: I'd rather have a KelTec or Taurus. But I own none of those because I prefer to spend a few more dollars and buy something of quality. Please show pics of your 16" folded PCC that takes Glock mags. Or your .22" WMR pistol. I don't own either of those because I have no desire to own them. In this thread the OP specifically asked about a small 9mm handgun. I actually am interested in one of the KelTec .22 Mag carbines, whenever they eventually become available. And here you are: http://www.gunbroker.com/Rifles/BI.aspx?Keywords=CMR $200 over MSRP Not paying $800 for it. When they get to a reasonable price ($500ish) I'll consider it. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 8:46:14 PM EDT
[#15]
Wow.....done looking at them.....thanks
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:38:55 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
W/o a back story, the pics are meaningless. That looks like a squib followed by a non-squib, which will blow up any locked breech gun. "The gun (an SCCY CPX-2) was purchased for the wife brand new and in the box. Yesterday morning at the range the wife asked him to shoot the brand new gun first. 27 rounds of factory 115 gr ammo went downrange with no problems.... #28 caused a cataclysmic failure resulting in a completely destroyed firearm. There had been no reloads, no squib load, no barrel obstruction, no problems at all. Any firearm can break. Ours is a dangerous sport. A failure like this one can do much damage. SCCY was called and emailed this morning and has not replied as of an hour ago. The ammunition manufacturer has also been notified. I am not condemning any firearms company or line of guns. I will post more as this situation develops.... Just do your research and be careful." here is your story 
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
"The gun (an SCCY CPX-2) was purchased for the wife brand new and in the box. Yesterday morning at the range the wife asked him to shoot the brand new gun first. 27 rounds of factory 115 gr ammo went downrange with no problems.... #28 caused a cataclysmic failure resulting in a completely destroyed firearm. There had been no reloads, no squib load, no barrel obstruction, no problems at all. Any firearm can break. Ours is a dangerous sport. A failure like this one can do much damage. SCCY was called and emailed this morning and has not replied as of an hour ago. The ammunition manufacturer has also been notified. I am not condemning any firearms company or line of guns. I will post more as this situation develops.... Just do your research and be careful." here is your story Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: W/o a back story, the pics are meaningless. That looks like a squib followed by a non-squib, which will blow up any locked breech gun. "The gun (an SCCY CPX-2) was purchased for the wife brand new and in the box. Yesterday morning at the range the wife asked him to shoot the brand new gun first. 27 rounds of factory 115 gr ammo went downrange with no problems.... #28 caused a cataclysmic failure resulting in a completely destroyed firearm. There had been no reloads, no squib load, no barrel obstruction, no problems at all. Any firearm can break. Ours is a dangerous sport. A failure like this one can do much damage. SCCY was called and emailed this morning and has not replied as of an hour ago. The ammunition manufacturer has also been notified. I am not condemning any firearms company or line of guns. I will post more as this situation develops.... Just do your research and be careful." here is your story So no resolution whatsoever. No brand of ammo either. That would've been exciting. The most excitement I've ever had is I flinched so bad on a 3" 00 load that I got a light primer strike. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:45:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
...the reading I did said the problems were with the CPX-1 and the new CPX-2 corrected the issues. 
cpx1 & cpx2 are the same, 1 has a thumb safety & the other (2) does not. The previous gen pistols have a horizontal pattern on the grip frame. I don't own either. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:30:20 PM EDT
[#19]
I had one and Tul ammo ripped the extractor out of it.
Sent it back, came back repaired, tested and put it away. It's not a terrible gun but for $100 more get something better. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 6:49:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Rolled the dice on a CPX 2 and took it to the range yesterday. Put about 130 rounds thorough it and not a hiccup. Functioned fine. Had the recoil spring retainer come apart but it doesn't effect function. It's a small plastic piece and they should use a metal piece but it just becomes a non captured set up like an old Glock I had. Going to shoot it some more before carrying it but the old stories from the Gen 1s seem to be taken care of for the most part.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:04:45 PM EDT
[#21]
I would take an SCCY over a Taurus any day.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 8:27:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Rolled the dice on a CPX 2 and took it to the range yesterday. Put about 130 rounds thorough it and not a hiccup. Functioned fine. Had the recoil spring retainer come apart but it doesn't effect function. It's a small plastic piece and they should use a metal piece but it just becomes a non captured set up like an old Glock I had. Going to shoot it some more before carrying it but the old stories from the Gen 1s seem to be taken care of for the most part. I had two Gen 1s. The problems did not show up untill after several hundred rounds down range. I hope they have all the issues worked out, for your sake. |
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Posted: 7/23/2016 10:07:34 PM EDT
[#23]
I picked up a cpx-2 in 2013. The machining and finish on them is very nice, better than most Taurus pistols for sure. They do have a plastic trigger and sights that seem pretty cheap. I have 300 or so rounds through mine so far and no problems. Mix of ammo both ball and HP 115g & 124 g. It is capable of some nice groups for a pistol this size. It does not share mags with S&W 59's or Kel tecs they seem the same except the location of the mag catch cuts.
For something to stash in a vehicle or cabin or GHB they are an OK choice. They can be had for $200. For an EDC or primary shooter they fall short and I would rather save up a while longer and get a name brand pistol. |
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Posted: 7/23/2016 10:30:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Rolled the dice on a CPX 2 and took it to the range yesterday. Put about 130 rounds thorough it and not a hiccup. Functioned fine. Had the recoil spring retainer come apart but it doesn't effect function. It's a small plastic piece and they should use a metal piece but it just becomes a non captured set up like an old Glock I had. Going to shoot it some more before carrying it but the old stories from the Gen 1s seem to be taken care of for the most part. So, a brand new gun broke after 130 rounds?
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Posted: 7/24/2016 8:00:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
So, a brand new gun broke after 130 rounds? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Rolled the dice on a CPX 2 and took it to the range yesterday. Put about 130 rounds thorough it and not a hiccup. Functioned fine. Had the recoil spring retainer come apart but it doesn't effect function. It's a small plastic piece and they should use a metal piece but it just becomes a non captured set up like an old Glock I had. Going to shoot it some more before carrying it but the old stories from the Gen 1s seem to be taken care of for the most part. So, a brand new gun broke after 130 rounds? The gun didn't break. Still functioned fine and the small plastic piece that came off isn't even needed. There's no need for a captured spring. The steel guide rod goes through the slide and the hole is just big enough for it to get through and the spring sits on the inside of the slide. My first Glock 17 was like this by design. If SCCY would either use a small steel ring to capture the spring or just go to a non captured spring then they would be fine. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 8:11:23 AM EDT
[#26]
so, what you are saying is that your SCCY...upgraded itself...yeah, that's it, upgraded, after 130 rounds.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:19:33 PM EDT
[#27]
LOL yup that's it. I don't have anything emotionally invested in the SCCY and with it only being $250 not much financially but I am going to give it a fair run and see what happens. Also the plastic piece came off about 60 rounds in and the pistol ran the next 70 without a problem with it gone. It wasn't a mandatory item. They did send me another and I got it in about 3 days but I am not using it. I would rather have it the way it is.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:58:26 PM EDT
[#28]
It really doesn't matter that the part is non-critical to the functionality of the gun, the fact that a part broke after 70 rounds pretty much confirms my impressions of the overall quality of SCCY firearms.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 1:40:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Then don't buy one. Simple LOL For me the small plastic piece is a non issue.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 3:08:31 PM EDT
[#30]
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Is it more of a Taurus quality....better.....worse.....very new to this company.... thanks Initially, I would have put SCCY at slightly better in quality than Taurus, but in light of the replies in this thread, I have to conclude that Taurus is a much higher quality manufacturer. I have owned several Taurus handguns, and while a couple of them were truly awful guns (I have a 1st gen pt111 that literally has the worst trigger of any gun I've ever shot), not one of them has had anything break after less than 100 rounds. Heck, I think even my Kel-Tec PF9 managed to get through more than 4 boxes of ammo before breaking. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 5:03:34 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Initially, I would have put SCCY at slightly better in quality than Taurus, but in light of the replies in this thread, I have to conclude that Taurus is a much higher quality manufacturer. I have owned several Taurus handguns, and while a couple of them were truly awful guns (I have a 1st gen pt111 that literally has the worst trigger of any gun I've ever shot), not one of them has had anything break after less than 100 rounds. Heck, I think even my Kel-Tec PF9 managed to get through more than 4 boxes of ammo before breaking. To be fair to SCCY, there's no videos of police shaking their guns and them discharging spontaneously. Have you called Taurus about the recall on the 1st Gen PT 111s? |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:28:13 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
To be fair to SCCY, there's no videos of police shaking their guns and them discharging spontaneously. Have you called Taurus about the recall on the 1st Gen PT 111s? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Initially, I would have put SCCY at slightly better in quality than Taurus, but in light of the replies in this thread, I have to conclude that Taurus is a much higher quality manufacturer. I have owned several Taurus handguns, and while a couple of them were truly awful guns (I have a 1st gen pt111 that literally has the worst trigger of any gun I've ever shot), not one of them has had anything break after less than 100 rounds. Heck, I think even my Kel-Tec PF9 managed to get through more than 4 boxes of ammo before breaking. To be fair to SCCY, there's no videos of police shaking their guns and them discharging spontaneously. Have you called Taurus about the recall on the 1st Gen PT 111s? But if I sent it in, I might not have the worse gun in the world anymore. 
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Posted: 7/28/2016 12:52:18 AM EDT
[#33]
The Bad:
I wanted to like mine, I had nothing but issues. I researched it heavily, watched reviews, watched "torture tests" It did not live up to my expectations at all. The front sight is friction fit and made out of polymer. It is prone to popping out of the gun. My rear sight also fell out on several occasions even after using loctite. Not to mention I kept having failure to extract even after parts were replaced personally. I even sent it back and still had issues. The empty brass would just sit in the barrel... It didn't swell or anything either, it sorta just fell out once I locked back the slide and tilted the gun. The Good: It actually felt good in the hand, for DAO the trigger wasn't bad either. Recoil wasn't a problem. Also you can buy spare frames cheap since the trigger housing is serialized. The warranty is also great, they will send you spare/replacement parts at no charge. If you are going cheap. You are better off buying a Taurus PT111 Gen 2 or a Ruger LC9, at least its less of a gamble than the SCCY. Doesn't cost much more either. They took a decent design and made some refinements on it's ergonomics. But it still feels like it's made cheap, also QC is a huge issue. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 10:17:15 AM EDT
[#34]
Put another 100 rounds through my SCCY yesterday. Ran like a champ. No issues at all. Wife was shooting it as well but she didn't care for the trigger after shooting the 1911. Just giving another update.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:25:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Shot another 100 rounds today with the last 3 mags one after the other so it got pretty hot. Not a hiccup and hasn't been cleaned since first range trip. I am going to shoot it dirty until I get a malfunction. A friend of mine shot it today as well and he liked it a lot. He is thinking about getting one.
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Posted: 8/19/2016 7:34:23 PM EDT
[#36]
I wanted to like these but man is that grip fat. It feels like holding a 2x4. I had a Kel Tec and prefer it much more.
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Posted: 8/19/2016 8:36:19 PM EDT
[#37]
My buddy just bought one, I really wanted to like it but the grip was like holding a 1x3. Worse than that was the trigger, long and heavy. He had multiple FTE per magazine with Magtech ammo, admittedly it was steel case and his HK P30 would not eject it either so I'll give it a pass on that. It also had multiple FTF with all brands of ammo. Lastly, 3/4 of each magazine were light primer strikes. Maybe some ramp polishing or feed lip adjusting may cure part of that issue and a stronger spring may cure the rest, but a brand new gun should not have all these issues.
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Posted: 8/19/2016 8:54:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Says in the book not to use steel cases ammo. I have only been using brass cases cheaper 9mm ammo.
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Posted: 1/4/2017 12:50:34 AM EDT
[#39]
looking at the metal where the barrel split, doesn't look very high quality...
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Posted: 1/4/2017 1:11:10 AM EDT
[#40]
If the rest of them are indicative of the sample size of one I shot (owned by a friend)... it says how they rate right on the side. Sucky...
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Posted: 1/4/2017 2:30:25 AM EDT
[#41]
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Is it more of a Taurus quality....better.....worse.....very new to this company.... thanks Save yourself all the headaches and grief. BUY A KAHR AND BE DONE WITH IT. Just about every size and caliber excluding the steel framed models can be had NIB for +/- $325 just about anywhere. I am a big fan of Kahrs and have been shooting them for almost 2 decades. Finally had my first CS issue. A 15 year old 45 mag developed a small split at the top left side. Sent it back to Kahr and got a replacement, no charge. Stand up company with a great product line. |
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Posted: 1/28/2017 6:44:55 PM EDT
[#42]
I am not a gun snob and I am ALWAYS on the look out for something well made at a great price. I put in enough time at the range to see lots of budget guns appear and then disappear. I also get asked to help people when their guns malfunction, suffer parts breakages, etc. I do not own a Taurus or a SCCY for that very reason.
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Posted: 1/28/2017 7:40:55 PM EDT
[#43]
I wanted to like the SCCY
I seen all the reviews and "torture tests". They have amazing customer service but do have their issues. Mine kept having a failure to extract even after changing out the recoil spring, magazines, ejector, and the extractor. Ended up selling it with full disclosure. I'd buy a Ruger LC9/Keltec/Taurus instead. |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 12:34:42 PM EDT
[#44]
I am a sales rep at a distributor that sells literally metric tons of SCCY pistols. We have never had one come back with any kind of an issue.
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Posted: 5/29/2017 9:58:23 PM EDT
[#45]
I worked for a retail gun store and we sell a lot of PT-111's and SCCY pistols . I would buy a SCCY over a PT-111 in a second , We have lots of PT-111's returned to Taurus
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Posted: 5/30/2017 9:07:32 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
W/o a back story, the pics are meaningless. That looks like a squib followed by a non-squib, which will blow up any locked breech gun. ETA - I just read further and saw the owner of the pistol tell the tale. The photos I saw Brownie post looked like but there may be more than one kaboom here. Brownies tale certainly involved the same color SCCY and the results sure look the same. Another edit. Just got through looking on DefensiveCarry and Brownie's photos have what look to be the same red Chevy PU and silver car in the background. |
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