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Posted: 3/7/2015 11:54:43 AM EDT
Does anyone here have experience with these handguns? They kind of look similar to a CZ.
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Posted: 3/7/2015 12:29:01 PM EDT
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Before the CZ75 was permitted to be imported because of their ties the Soviets, Tanfoglio filled the void by producing copies of the CZ 75 varients. The early Tanfoglios used a hammer drop safety instead of the frame mounted design. The Tanfogolio guns were reported to be sold under other names such as Jericho, Desert eagle and a couple of other brands. At one time FIE imported the Tanfoglio which were made in Italy IIRC. I've shot a couple of examples over the years and most used steel frames and slides and tended to be a bit large for CCW. Some of the target and competition guns were reported to be pretty accurate.
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Posted: 3/7/2015 2:28:13 PM EDT
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Before the CZ75 was permitted to be imported because of their ties the Soviets, Tangfolio filled the void by producing copies of the CZ 75 varients. The early Tangfolios used a hammer drop safety instead of the frame mounted design. The Tangfolio guns were reported to be sold under other names such as Jericho, Desert eagle and a couple of other brands. At one time FIE imported the Tangfolios which were made in Italy IIRC. I've shot a couple of examples over the years and most used steel frames and slides and tended to be a bit large for CCW. Some of the target and competition guns were reported to be pretty accurate. Are they worth the money? I think they are a really stylish handgun. |
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Posted: 3/7/2015 3:43:23 PM EDT
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Tanfoglio, thank you for spelling it correctly by the way, (gunbroker hint, search Tangfolio) makes spectacular guns with an awesome reputation. Search around, they can be had for a steal of a deal most times. Italy's finest
TA90 for sale! |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 1:15:07 PM EDT
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I'ma big fan of Beretta pistols & rifles, but I think Tanfoglio makes the best firearms out of Italy. Google "Valley of the Gun", it's the region these come from, they have a solid reputation for making some really nice stuff. CZs will usually come out of the box with nicer triggers than EAAs on the average, but with $200 to $300 higher prices. Where CZ beats EAA is customer service and aftermarket support. A few years ago I'd tell you to spend a few dollars more for a CZ, now that more people know about them their prices have crept up, EAAs prices haven't changed much over the same time span. Most Turkish CZ clones are $300-$350 in my area, i can buy an EAA Witness .45acp in stainless right now for $390. If I didn't already have a CZ 97B in my collection I'd grab that EAA today.
EAAs in .45acp & 10mm are also the same approximate sized frame as the 9mm, where my CZ 97B is HUGE! If And I know Witness .45acp comes in a compact version as well. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:09:39 PM EDT
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I bought a TZ75 years ago that has always been a fun shooter. It has the slide mounted hammer drop safety which I am not a fan of. Good looking gun.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:08:26 PM EDT
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Some of the models fit in great for shooting competition divisions (stock2, limited, gold team), while they may seem pricey they are cheap for what you get. Most of the other models are an odd fit by modern standards for general purpose, carry, ccw standards. The Elite Match models really stand out, in the $500s you get something close to a 2011 style pistol dirt cheap. The trigger out of the box is very very good, Single Action only, the trigger has user-adjustable overtravel and reset adjustments, the massive 46oz weight means almost not felt recoil on the 9mm model I have. Presentation is very nice with a good case and the card with the name of the gunsmith that assempled your gun. Dawson makes a cheap front fiber sight for it, the taylor freelance extensions get to 21+1 or 22+1 capacity.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 10:58:03 PM EDT
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The current production full size guns are the go-to gun for USPSA Production division.
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Posted: 3/28/2015 12:18:09 AM EDT
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The current production full size guns are the go-to gun for USPSA Production division. +1 a lot of the top guys use them... I want to say the top four finishers at the USPSA nationals are using Tanfo Stock II's now. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 11:35:51 PM EDT
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I've got the Elite Match in 10mm and it's great. The only thing I did not care for was the grip panels. Replaced them with Hogue grips and it's good to go.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 12:28:49 AM EDT
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Two of my favorite handguns above! The Grand Power and the Elite Match! What's amazing is the K100 in 9mm shoots as flat and recoils as lightly as my Elite Match in 9mm...and it weighs a pound less!
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Posted: 4/5/2015 10:44:58 AM EDT
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They are the BEST competition guns out.
look up Stock 2 and Stock 3, Limited Pro and the Limiteds. Depending on which class you shoot that is the way to go. The Stock 2 has dominated the USPSA, IPSC competitions world wide. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 3:14:06 AM EDT
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I picked up two last week. Have had many over the years. I do have questions on mine though.
Lower one is a Israeli pre IMI gun. A Mossad commemorative. These all came in shot a lot. Mine seems fine date code is AB 1975? The other is a two upper convertible. Date code AI 1979 I think. My CZ 18 round 9mm mags work fine in it. But when I start looking for 40S&W mags they say large frame does that mean they will not fit? Police confiscation purchase. Came with no mags. 9MM seems to be easy but most all the 40's seem to be built on the 45 frame. Hmmmmm Pre EAA gun porn for you all. I had a 40 on the small frame before. That was all blue. But sold it. 
The 40S&W slide is on the gun. The mags are all CZ. Needed something to shoot while my CZ is in Ghost CZ's custom shop getting a hammer and trigger job. 
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Posted: 4/17/2015 7:00:41 AM EDT
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Is that MOSSAD from cdisales on gunjoker?
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Posted: 4/17/2015 7:43:27 AM EDT
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i have afullsize witness p in 9mm. i love it. very accurate. it shoots anything i put through it. had 2 malfunctions in 1500+ rounds (cheap ammo i think, but couldve been the gun).
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:07:09 AM EDT
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Is that MOSSAD from cdisales on gunjoker? Actually got it from a ASU student from Israel. Arizona resident now. I think he had three. I saw the one your talking about and almost bought it. They were run pretty hard but haven't seen a non functioning one yet. Got it more for conversation piece. Auction expired the first time no bidders at $290. I would re spring it maybe sand blast it and have it parked. Mine eats everything imaginable. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 3:38:32 PM EDT
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Another interesting clone from tanfoglio, not bad for the price got it from GB, other than the loose rear sight. Surprisingly accurate
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Posted: 4/19/2015 5:52:45 PM EDT
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That's a nice pistol there. Would love to have it.
Just went to the gunshow to buy a 40S&W mag for the convertible. Found one place that had one $40. All the other 40 mags were on the big frame and would not fit. I guess I will be buying CZ mags for it. Either way Very nice firearm you have there. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:42:22 PM EDT
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Which model is that in the first picture that the op posted.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:53:10 PM EDT
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I would really like a Gold Match 6" in 10mm. In fact, if I had one I'd probably start deer hunting again.
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Posted: 4/28/2015 12:07:54 AM EDT
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Tans are really nice guns. Well worth the bank.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 4:36:43 PM EDT
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I have a full size 38 Super. It runs great but accuracy is only mediocre. My Kimber 38 super shoots groups a fourth the size.
If you buy any spare parts or mags from EAA, they come with this little love note. The first two lines are the best. "If this product is a complete piece of shit, it's your fault, not ours" 
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Posted: 6/17/2015 4:53:30 PM EDT
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The only experience Ive ever had with a Tanfoglio was 29 years ago an acquaintance showed me his Tanfoglio Gardone .32 ACP pocket pistol. It was an unremarkable POC that I had no interest in and was embarrassed for him for owning it. Im guessing Tanfoglio Gardone is not the same company that manyfactures the pistols that are getting glowing reviews here now?
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Posted: 6/22/2015 3:41:52 PM EDT
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I was just looking at an EAA at the lgs. I forgot the model number already. FA(something?) It had the squared trigger guard, drop down slide release and slide mounted hammer drop safety and one magazine. Priced at $339. Worth a second look?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:00:43 PM EDT
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I was just looking at an EAA at the lgs. I forgot the model number already. FA(something?) It had the squared trigger guard, drop down slide release and slide mounted hammer drop safety and one magazine. Priced at $339. Worth a second look? Sounds like the base model Witness. Probably be ok depending on caliber. If it's a 9 you will be fine. If it's a 10, Id go with one of the Elites or Stock models. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:37:28 PM EDT
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Never had any interest in the 75, but the GF just started carrying one cocked & locked. SA trigger's not bad. We sell a Turkish clone @ work, hadn't really pushed it. Are most of the clones dimensionally identical? Parts interchange, etc?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:49:30 PM EDT
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Cz's and Tans are a bit different. You would have to know which route they followed to tell what they have in common.
I hear they are solid guns though. My Cz97 cost a bunch. The Turkish ones in 45 are well reviewed and a lot cheaper. CZ custom works on them so they aren't that far off. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 1:37:27 PM EDT
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I've always been interested in the Tanfoglio Witness since they offer it in a 38 Super....
I happened across a used full sized in 38 Super last week. Price was nice- someone traded it in to get an AR  . Same shop also had a Witness-P 10mm (shorter barrel, fullsized frame). Dealer said he sold it originally to guy who wanted a 10mm for protection against bear when hunting  . Any how, the recoil was too much for the person, so he brought it back......got something else.
Needless to say, I got both for grand total of $900...... I like the narrower grip of the 10mm Witness P, but like the weight of the metal 38 Super. Granted, both slides interchange (tried), so I might put the shorter (bull barreled) 10mm on the metal frame and the 38 Super on the polymer. I'll see. I haven't had a chance to play with them yet. I'm concerned with what a previous poster said on 38 Super accuracy. I'm sure that I'm not a great shot, so I'm confident that I'll never shoot as good as the gun is built with any of my weapons (well, minus that POS Intratec AB10 that had a shot out barrel  - the 9mm bullet would fall through the barrel....rifling would NOT bite.....another story).
I think I do recall seeing the Tanfoglio branded under IMI years ago....late 90s, early 2000s. If I recall, it was only a 9mm then..... I looked online and I can order a barrel in 40 SW so I can swap my 10mm to a 40. I suppose I could do that w/ my 38 Super to 9mm if I wanted to. Another slide (long slide) might get bought eventually in 10mm.....I'll see.
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Posted: 7/7/2015 4:56:51 PM EDT
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That short barreled 10mm is going to be one snappy critter. Steel frame Tans have a great feel to them.
38 super is a great cartridge. It's just to save money most have been shot with the crappiest ammo available. It was the cartridge to have in competition for years. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:39:02 PM EDT
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That short barreled 10mm is going to be one snappy critter. Steel frame Tans have a great feel to them. 38 super is a great cartridge. It's just to save money most have been shot with the crappiest ammo available. It was the cartridge to have in competition for years. Yup, that 10mm will be INTERESTING. I put a Lonewolf long slide 6" on my Glock 21 (to make a 10mm) w/ a 22 or 24 pound spring. That short barrel on the Witness P will be interesting for sure.....don't even know what spring weight it has for factory. As I said, at some point I plan to pick up a 40 SW barrel for it, but if I read the website right, that barrel is out of stock (maybe the 10mm owners wanting to shoot something else....) Who makes barrels for them beside factory.....kind of itching for a 357 Sig barrel..... |
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Posted: 8/23/2015 12:35:45 PM EDT
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I really like that Witness Stock 3 in stainless and the blued/black versions are amazing. I have owned the polymer pistol EAA made years ago and it was reliable and accurate. The Witness and Gold Match are very attractive looking guns.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 12:24:28 AM EDT
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I am pretty pumped. I have one of these on the way.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 2:31:37 PM EDT
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I am pretty pumped. I have one of these on the way. https://eaacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/witness_limited1.png That's one nice gun there. It will come with a hardball recoil spring. If you shoot a lot of under powered softball loads buy a 18# or so one and it'll be more reliable. Just mark one with some of the misses nail polish so you can tell them apart. Very nice.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 10:59:37 AM EDT
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I got a 2015 Steel frame 10mm last week.It has the heavy profile slide,and
slide has 10mm stamped on the top rib.Also, the frame has grooves,front and rear. They have went up in price across the line,but this one is much nicer than the two i had in the early 90's. 
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Posted: 9/1/2015 12:04:23 PM EDT
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Good for you....I like the 10mm.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 12:23:40 PM EDT
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I got a 2015 Steel frame 10mm last week.It has the heavy profile slide,and slide has 10mm stamped on the top rib.Also, the frame has grooves,front and rear. They have went up in price across the line,but this one is much nicer than the two i had in the early 90's. I thought the early Tanfoglio 10mms were junk, but I've been reading positive posts about their newer line-up. Would like to see pics of this 2015 steel model, if you've got some. Thanks! |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 12:38:09 PM EDT
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Does anyone here have experience with these handguns? They kind of look similar to a CZ. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8383/8587821704_dbe7d6c475_z.jpg My teammate has a couple of stock 2s that he uses for production division. Awesome handguns. The front strap checkering is a tad aggressive (not really a bad thing) and they have had some finicky moments in practice, but they're accurate, fast, and have very little recoil due to the weight. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 1:09:43 PM EDT
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I thought the early Tanfoglio 10mms were junk, but I've been reading positive posts about their newer line-up. Would like to see pics of this 2015 steel model, if you've got some. Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got a 2015 Steel frame 10mm last week.It has the heavy profile slide,and slide has 10mm stamped on the top rib.Also, the frame has grooves,front and rear. They have went up in price across the line,but this one is much nicer than the two i had in the early 90's. I thought the early Tanfoglio 10mms were junk, but I've been reading positive posts about their newer line-up. Would like to see pics of this 2015 steel model, if you've got some. Thanks! I'm an old fart, and don't know that stuff,sorry.[64 yr.old] When i was in school, they didn't have computers........lol. Nice beaver tail,and has a rail,not that i will use it.. This is the same frame that the Witness Elite Match uses,i am pleased....... 
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Posted: 9/9/2015 8:56:59 AM EDT
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The top shooters in the world shoot Tanfoglio's and CZ's....so yeah, I'd say they're good guns OP. ;)
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Posted: 9/10/2015 1:06:40 AM EDT
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What model is that in the OP's picture? I have been looking for a Stock 2 for a few weeks, just trying to get one around $1K. I see them on GB for about $1,100.
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Posted: 9/10/2015 1:28:26 AM EDT
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I like mine, it started life as a regular bottom end gun, but got a "free upgrade" to the older style match slide when the slide cracked (issue on the wonder finish guns, since resolved, but TONS of people bought them TO let them crack and get the free match slide, I am one of those people)
10mm is a little bit of a handful, not bad though, VERY accurate gun.  |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 1:36:42 AM EDT
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Nice run there...I got a deal on the one with two slides. 9mm and forty on the small frame.
Bought it for my wife or so I thought... 
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Posted: 9/11/2015 11:02:09 AM EDT
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I've liked the stock 2's for a while. Being that they are still really hard to get in 9mm I think I'm getting an x-caliber.
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