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Posted: 2/2/2014 5:19:05 PM EDT
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I`m really interested in this gun. I want a new gun for concealed carry, full time. choices are
down to the XDM, the Shield, or the BP9. I also really like that trigger on the Bersa. this thread is relevant to my interests. scruff |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 4:00:30 AM EDT
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Local shop had one to rent and I put 100 rounds of Federal 124gr FMJ through it w/o issues. It was in serious consideration for my carry gun, but they could never get another in. Ended up w/ a Kahr CW9, but enjoyed the BP9CC. Hope it gets to running better for you, keep us posted.
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Posted: 2/3/2014 3:53:20 PM EDT
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Tag and you should have put this is general handgun discussions, alot more traffic
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Posted: 2/3/2014 4:38:43 PM EDT
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Then i woulda got yelled at for not putting here LOL. oh well.
I need to shoot it again. It feels so dang good in my hand.
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Posted: 2/3/2014 4:50:16 PM EDT
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Then i woulda got yelled at for not putting here LOL. oh well. I need to shoot it again. It feels so dang good in my hand. As long as you're posting on ARFcom, you got yellings coming |
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Posted: 2/4/2014 2:37:53 PM EDT
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I looked at few at the LGS but I've seen a lot of variation how the barrel ramp was cut and didn't buy it.
I liked the trigger and the gun flatness. |
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Posted: 2/4/2014 5:42:07 PM EDT
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My wife picked up one this past summer for her CC.
She has about 600 rounds through it with only 3 FTfires with Tula and 2 FTE with WWB. Other than that, no problems. Shoots great and very accurate. |
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Posted: 2/4/2014 6:02:53 PM EDT
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 6:27:15 AM EDT
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Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But the Bersa isn't a car. It's a gun. The Thunder 380 I own is a fine firearm. I've seen one Bersa BP9CC in the wild. It looked fine to me. The big problem is going to be getting a holster for it. If Bersa doesn't get some of these guns out in the real world It'll get trampled by the R-51 |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 9:48:13 AM EDT
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But then again, the Argentinians aren't known for making good automobiles. On the other hand, they are known for making some pretty damn decent handguns. Every Bersa I've seen has been GTG. |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 6:40:55 PM EDT
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But then again, the Argentinians aren't known for making good automobiles. On the other hand, they are known for making some pretty damn decent handguns. Every Bersa I've seen has been GTG. I've literally seen the slide fly off the front of a Bersa. No thanks. |
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Posted: 2/5/2014 7:02:54 PM EDT
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? I've seen a slide on a beretta break too. What does that prove? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But then again, the Argentinians aren't known for making good automobiles. On the other hand, they are known for making some pretty damn decent handguns. Every Bersa I've seen has been GTG. I've literally seen the slide fly off the front of a Bersa. No thanks. |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 6:34:27 AM EDT
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at this point it's either sell the impulse purchase or keep running ammo through it and wonder if it will be there to save my ass...or NOT.
I really don't feel like "making a gun work correctly" looks like I am out of the Bersa game. awesome trigger. awesome grip, awesome size. IN for a single stack glock 9. EDIT: I posted in the bersachat forum and they deleted my post. I put up the good and bad things and what I found wrong. Log post with info on the mag catch and follower issues, ammo i used, my feed problems, etc. I mentioned probably selling my gun if it doesn't work out and the mod deleted the entire post for breaching the "no gun sales on the forum" rule.......because I simply said I would most likely be getting rid of it.  . what a tool! |
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Posted: 2/6/2014 4:16:54 PM EDT
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I like mine. Try cleaning it really well; they bathe it pretty good in this sticky, nasty stuff. Also, remove the backing cover and clean out the firing pin channel. Watch out for the little spring when removing the cover.
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Posted: 2/6/2014 4:18:17 PM EDT
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But then again, the Argentinians aren't known for making good automobiles. On the other hand, they are known for making some pretty damn decent handguns. Every Bersa I've seen has been GTG. I've literally seen the slide fly off the front of a Bersa. No thanks. Kind of a silly thing to say dude. If it's put back together correctly the slide can't fly off. 
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Posted: 2/6/2014 6:09:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like mine. Try cleaning it really well; they bathe it pretty good in this sticky, nasty stuff. Also, remove the backing cover and clean out the firing pin channel. Watch out for the little spring when removing the cover. |
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Posted: 2/7/2014 3:42:01 AM EDT
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I had a bersa thunder hi cap 9mm that was 100% reliable and surprisingly accurate, first time out I shot better groups than the Beretta 92 I've had for years. Let it go when I was thinning out some 9mms from my collection. But when it comes to carry it has to be 100% IMHO. I traded my Kahr PM45 that i had for years, wonderful shooting gun but seems that about every 100 rounds it would jam or misfeed. I'd never complain about that in a range gun but unacceptable for carry. How many mags have you tried? if your original mag had issues with a sticky follower I'd try another mag first. Then field strip it and clean it again, and try a different brand of ammo. My experience with WWB isn't great, best ammo I've used is Fiocchi, Federal Premium & Speer Lawman. I'd give it at least another 100 rounds before you give up on it.
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Posted: 2/7/2014 4:38:46 AM EDT
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Kind of a silly thing to say dude. If it's put back together correctly the slide can't fly off.
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But then again, the Argentinians aren't known for making good automobiles. On the other hand, they are known for making some pretty damn decent handguns. Every Bersa I've seen has been GTG. I've literally seen the slide fly off the front of a Bersa. No thanks. Kind of a silly thing to say dude. If it's put back together correctly the slide can't fly off.
Not of the slide stop cracked because it was made of shitty metal... dude. 
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Posted: 2/10/2014 6:48:19 PM EDT
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Well ,you should probably buy an XDS then...
I have a few thousand flawless rounds through my BP and other than the front sight snapping off last week I haven't had a problem. 
Eagle Imports sent a replacement sight N/C from NJ. |
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Posted: 2/10/2014 6:55:48 PM EDT
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Not of the slide stop cracked because it was made of shitty metal... dude.
I don't think one can assert that because one broke that you witnessed means any or all others made by the company are inferior. I've seen defective Colts, HK's and Berettas before... exceptions to the rule. I've had Bersa's for almost 25 years and never had a defective one. I wore my first one to the point it broke a spring- had to be a couple thousand rounds minimum. Lots of people I know have had them and no more issues than any other brand. To argue from the particular to the general is a serious logic flaw. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 5:43:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a bersa thunder hi cap 9mm that was 100% reliable and surprisingly accurate, first time out I shot better groups than the Beretta 92 I've had for years. Let it go when I was thinning out some 9mms from my collection. But when it comes to carry it has to be 100% IMHO. I traded my Kahr PM45 that i had for years, wonderful shooting gun but seems that about every 100 rounds it would jam or misfeed. I'd never complain about that in a range gun but unacceptable for carry. How many mags have you tried? if your original mag had issues with a sticky follower I'd try another mag first. Then field strip it and clean it again, and try a different brand of ammo. My experience with WWB isn't great, best ammo I've used is Fiocchi, Federal Premium & Speer Lawman. I'd give it at least another 100 rounds before you give up on it. Sorry its the dead of winter and i use my brother place to shoot...so i have to pay to shoot handguns at an indoor range for now....his perrogative not mine. Sorry no updates. Mayne sunday i will run another 100rnds through it of good ammo. If it doesnt go bang 100times its sooooooo gone. I never have bought a pistol that didnt go bang every time under most normal circumstances. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 12:53:24 PM EDT
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I tried 3 different ammo's. The mags both had the same issues. It seems to be a design flaw. They both hung up arpunf the mag release slots. The mag lock actually hits the follower when it operates. Being a small-arms repairman for 6 years makes me able to find a fault quickly. It seems the mags and mag release system are my issue. I did check an xds at work...their mag releases do not hit the followers. I would rock an XDS but the grip is about 1rnd to short for me. Allllmost nailed the size i want. Sorry its the dead of winter and i use my brother place to shoot...so i have to pay to shoot handguns at an indoor range for now....his perrogative not mine. Sorry no updates. Mayne sunday i will run another 100rnds through it of good ammo. If it doesnt go bang 100times its sooooooo gone. I never have bought a pistol that didnt go bang every time under most normal circumstances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a bersa thunder hi cap 9mm that was 100% reliable and surprisingly accurate, first time out I shot better groups than the Beretta 92 I've had for years. Let it go when I was thinning out some 9mms from my collection. But when it comes to carry it has to be 100% IMHO. I traded my Kahr PM45 that i had for years, wonderful shooting gun but seems that about every 100 rounds it would jam or misfeed. I'd never complain about that in a range gun but unacceptable for carry. How many mags have you tried? if your original mag had issues with a sticky follower I'd try another mag first. Then field strip it and clean it again, and try a different brand of ammo. My experience with WWB isn't great, best ammo I've used is Fiocchi, Federal Premium & Speer Lawman. I'd give it at least another 100 rounds before you give up on it. Sorry its the dead of winter and i use my brother place to shoot...so i have to pay to shoot handguns at an indoor range for now....his perrogative not mine. Sorry no updates. Mayne sunday i will run another 100rnds through it of good ammo. If it doesnt go bang 100times its sooooooo gone. I never have bought a pistol that didnt go bang every time under most normal circumstances. you mention the grip being short on the XDS. One of things I really like about the BP9 is the grip length; I can easily get 3 fingers on it. I can tell you 100% the Shield with 8 round extended mag is the same size as the BP9. Something to think about. I'm taking my BP to the range this evening. I'll pay attention to what you're saying here but so far, I haven't been able to see past the single ragged hole in the target and that sweet trigger. 
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Posted: 2/11/2014 3:03:14 PM EDT
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Well, for me the M&P series trigger is atrocious. The shield is also slide chunky and funky to me. I wish the bp9 didnt feel so perfect....thats what made me buy it.
Yeah lemme know what you find at the range. Mine is accurate and smooth, but it doesnt go bang every time. |
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Posted: 2/11/2014 3:14:36 PM EDT
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The Kahr CW9 has a slightly longer grip, it may be worth a look if you are alright w/ its DA-esque trigger. I was initially after a Shield, but picked up my CW9 while I was waiting and ended up getting by Shield deposit back.
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Posted: 2/11/2014 7:04:51 PM EDT
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nah, we have all the kahr's at work....trigger is like 2ft travel, nogo for me. slide is also hellllla tight. feels nice, but trigger is def a dealbreaker for me.
maybe I will go with an XDS-9 with a pierce grip extension. the trigger is kinda heavy for me, but it's short reset and pull so that's nice. The ones we have at work are all post recall as well, for $599 retail. this bersa is like the hot chick with emotional problems....she feels awesome, but not exactly the one you want when the chips are down LOL.
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Posted: 2/12/2014 12:36:20 PM EDT
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I shot my BP9 last night. The new sight Bersa sent me? The white dot fell out after the first shot!
I called Eagle Imports and they are sending me another sight. I shot it with the dot missing which essentially made it a blacked out sight post. First time I ever tried that. 150 rounds, every round went boom. I looked at the mag well and can see how the top round in the mag kinda sits above the slide lock. All I can say is in thousands of rounds, mine fires every time. The trigger is sweet; makes all other single stacks feel like shit.
If the OP is serious about liking the pistol perhaps a call to Eagle Imports for a new firing pin spring is in order? I'm sure if you tell them you are having light strike issues they will just send you the spring, maybe even a whole new firing pin assy? |
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Posted: 2/12/2014 12:50:33 PM EDT
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I shot my BP9 last night. The new sight Bersa sent me? The white dot fell out after the first shot!
I called Eagle Imports and they are sending me another sight. I shot it with the dot missing which essentially made it a blacked out sight post. First time I ever tried that. 150 rounds, every round went boom. I looked at the mag well and can see how the top round in the mag kinda sits above the slide lock. All I can say is in thousands of rounds, mine fires every time. The trigger is sweet; makes all other single stacks feel like shit.
If the OP is serious about liking the pistol perhaps a call to Eagle Imports for a new firing pin spring is in order? I'm sure if you tell them you are having light strike issues they will just send you the spring, maybe even a whole new firing pin assy? You've convinced me to buy one. I've been on the fence for a while and want something between my DB9 and G19. Everything I read about this gun is how awesome the trigger is. |
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Posted: 2/13/2014 6:17:30 AM EDT
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The trigger is sooooo awesome. I caery my G26 daily, at eork and off work. It's going to be hard to stop carrying that for the bersa. The thing is, i have never heard of a glock (gen 3) coming out of the factory with bad parts, or ever having an issue. For me,going from a proven gun to one with the most issues i have ever had with a firearm, including poor design aspects, could prove to be a deadly mistake.
I'm going to stick with my G26. Flush 10 for carry, xgrip 15 fpr work.
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Posted: 2/14/2014 7:29:31 AM EDT
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The trigger is sooooo awesome. I caery my G26 daily, at eork and off work. It's going to be hard to stop carrying that for the bersa. The thing is, i have never heard of a glock (gen 3) coming out of the factory with bad parts, or ever having an issue. For me,going from a proven gun to one with the most issues i have ever had with a firearm, including poor design aspects, could prove to be a deadly mistake. I'm going to stick with my G26. Flush 10 for carry, xgrip 15 fpr work. Glocks have absolutely had their problems (Even Gen 3's) but I certainly understand the logic. I have a Nano that shoots 124G all day long, the moment I drop a 115 G in the chamber it doesn't eject.  It's amazing to me. I can shoot 300 straight 124G flawless rounds and the first 115G load stops it in it's tracks.
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Posted: 2/14/2014 11:31:39 AM EDT
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I think the design let the gun down, from a CCW "MUST WORK" standpoint
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Posted: 2/25/2014 5:31:31 PM EDT
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I have the pistol for sale at my local shop. Sorry guys but i gave up on this thing.
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Posted: 5/13/2014 5:58:11 PM EDT
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I just picked one up yesterday and shot it today. I LOVE the trigger. I LOVE the feel of it. It's the single stack 9 size that glock won't make. I don't know if I can trust it for my EDC that I wanted it to be. the mag retention claws interfere with the follower when it goes past them. the followers were tight and were binding (i fixed that), and i had MANY FTF when shooting weak handed with the gun at an angle (to get a sight picture). I put over 150rnds through it after cleaning all the oil out of it. I used WWB , S&B, Critical duty and blazer brass. I had 2 FTFire with decent hits on the primer...WWB ammo, and one S&B shooting strong hand. also had 2 where it failed to chamber and the round nosedived. Zero FTE issues tho. I REALLLY wanna carry this gun but my glocks never had teething problems, nor my 1911's. I am going to see if I can get it ironed out but if not I will have to let it go. advise? Would you drive a car built in Argentina? Just saying. Probably not. But then again, the Argentinians aren't known for making good automobiles. On the other hand, they are known for making some pretty damn decent handguns. Every Bersa I've seen has been GTG. I've literally seen the slide fly off the front of a Bersa. No thanks. I've seen a slide fly off a Glock too. |
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Posted: 5/13/2014 10:20:56 PM EDT
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Had my Bp9cc for 2months now and my first cc pistol, since I shot it never had one single failure. Great feeling cc pistol and urge those to give one a try. The front white dot also came off.....I usually black out all my pistols sights anyway
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Posted: 5/14/2014 3:20:56 PM EDT
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Sorry you got a dog, I generally hear good things about Bersa.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 4:27:24 PM EDT
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I went back to my Glock 26. I won't buy a budget gun (or a Bersa) ever again. I sold it at a shop for $350.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:26:47 AM EDT
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Sold my 3 glocks 26/17L/17.....years ago, never lost sleep over it
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Posted: 6/22/2014 6:22:15 AM EDT
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Curious... You said you "fixed" the magazine followers, what did you do exactly?
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Posted: 6/23/2014 10:42:02 AM EDT
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