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Posted: 3/23/2012 11:21:41 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I'm looking at a Star PD in .45acp as a home defense weapon. Someone I know has two and I'm thinking about buying one of them. Is this pistol a good choice? |
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Posted: 3/23/2012 11:36:19 AM
Back in the late 70's the Star PD and the Detonics Combat Master 45 were only semi auto's smaller than a LW Commander. The Detonics was a little smaller than the Star Pd but the Star is lighter because of the alloy frame. I bought a Detonics because I could order one whereas the Star PD were difficult to find. These pistols are really intended for concealed carry. The Star PD holds 6 in the mag IIRC. A Combat Commander or Government model hold 7 or 8 depending on mag.
These small guns generally have more felt recoil and maybe more prone to malfunction from limp wristing. I wouldn't hesitate keeping one around for defense but for a novice I'd probably recommend something different. If the price is right buy it, if you like the way it fits your hand and the pistols size. Back in the 70's the PD sold $400-450. I believe these are reliable guns but I don't know if you can find magazines or spare parts. |
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Posted: 3/23/2012 1:25:19 PM
The Star PD was the very first semi I used for CCW many years ago (only carried revolvers until then) and I wish I still had that first one.
Even though they were probably meant to be carried a lot and shot less, they were great and IMHO underrated/underappreciated pistols. I've owned several over the years and never had any problems. Here are the two I still have –– a very early blued model, and one of the last ones imported with the Starvel finish and some subtle styling changes that hinted at the Firestar series that would follow... ![]() |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 11:26:51 AM
They aren't bad guns. I have one I found at a pawn shop for dirt cheap, but it's well used. They're light and relatively small. They were the hot thing back in the day, but not something that you'd want to shoot thousands of rounds out of. They're reliable guns, and everyone that has owned one either wants to keep it, or want the one back they sold.
The recoil buffer is the key part to the gun. It has to be replaced every few hundred rounds. Check it if you are going to buy one. Once they wear out, the frame takes a battering that the alloy from those days just can't handle. Replace it often and you shouldn't have problems. They used to be a bitch to replace, but some guy offers ones that just clip on in place without having to take the recoil spring assembly apart. That task does indeed suck. I've used 1911 buffers in the past, but the clip on ones are the way to go. When my current buffer needs replacement, I'm going with those. Mags aren't cheap. They're tough to find too. $50 isn't uncommon. That's a pretty big consideration if the one you buy doesn't come with any. It's also a big value plus if it does come with mags. The mags themselves are pretty well made, and I like the follower Star used in the PD. Parts are difficult to find. The internet helps out on this one. I think you can probably find any part you'd need, but you'd have to dig some. There's really only a couple folks who have any parts, so it's a cornered market. Again, not cheap. For home defense, it will do the job. It will certainly throw .45 sulgs fine. They are very reliable, which is what you want. You could do alot worse. However, in home defense you aren't really going to need the smaller size/lighter weight which is the big feature/drawback of the PD. The light weight is great for carry, but it comes at the cost of recoil and durability. You don't really need any of that in a HD gun. I can't say "Not a good idea" because my heart just wouldn't be in it, but I'd say there are alot of guns out there that are better for the job and wouldn't cost any more. Bottom line is if it's in great shape and a good price, it'd be hard to beat, but something else might be better for HD-only use. |
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Posted: 3/26/2012 10:23:15 AM
[Last Edit: 3/26/2012 10:23:38 AM by HardShell]
Originally Posted By Ross: ... Bottom line is if it's in great shape and a good price, it'd be hard to beat, but something else might be better for HD-only use. Couldn't agree more. I have to admit that I missed the "home defense" part of the OP... Still great CCW guns IMHO but, as much as I love mine, they would be far from the top of my list for HD. |
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Posted: 3/26/2012 10:55:20 AM
[Last Edit: 3/26/2012 10:57:40 AM by frogdiver]
I have had one for about 14 years and 2-2,500 rounds. Had to replace the ejector once early on, get one from Brownells and keep it around as they may be hard to find. Other than that they are a gtg.
ETA - Forgot about the buffers, they are pretty important if you shoot it more than occassionally. |
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Posted: 3/31/2012 11:15:31 AM
One of two guns I ever let go and want back after 40 years of swapping and selling.
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Posted: 4/4/2012 3:54:50 AM
I carried a blue PD for over ten years and regret ever selling it. If they were offered today at a reasonable price,they would sell a buttload of them.
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Posted: 4/4/2012 5:36:34 AM
Originally Posted By Clint50:
I carried a blue PD for over ten years and regret ever selling it. If they were offered today at a reasonable price,they would sell a buttload of them. me too......... |
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Posted: 8/20/2012 10:29:14 PM
I use a PD as my carry. It doesn't get a lot of use at the range, but it is a great CCW. Small, compact, and packs a serious punch.
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement buffer? |
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Posted: 8/21/2012 7:29:51 AM
Originally Posted By kvl1027:
I use a PD as my carry. It doesn't get a lot of use at the range, but it is a great CCW. Small, compact, and packs a serious punch. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement buffer? Yeah, there's a guy that makes them new and best of all you don't have to take the recoil guide all apart to replace it. It just slips on and supposedly works well. One of the big headaches was replacing the buffer. The recoil guide is full length, and the end screws off, but the spring is a total bitch to deal with loose. There's some good instructions on how to do it on the net. Because it was so hard, many people didn't replace them and the result was damage to the alloy frame. This is something to really check for if buying one. The buffers themselves are available on Gunbroker. Just search "Star PD" and you'll find an ad or two with them. They are relatively cheap and the pack with several in them is the way to go. I've used 1911 buffers in mine before, but the next one is going to be one of the new ones. WAY easier to deal with, and it's made for the gun. |
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