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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:16:00 PM EDT
I've been looking into .45's and I like the 1911. While reading "American Sniper", Chris Kyle used it until it saved his ass from a frag. Can anyone else inform me on reliability, accuracy and things any gun buyer should know before buying. Also looking at the Sig Sauer P220 for the same reason.
Link Posted: 3/2/2015 11:01:40 PM EDT
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SS TRP owner here -

Out of the box mine simply devours the cheap shit the range sells and does the same when fed commercially produced ammo.  Check.

Will consistently put said shitty ammo in tight groups where I put the sights at ~15 yards offhand.  Same for commercial ammo. Check.

I got mine for a song so didn't worry about the rail/no rail question.

The checkering on the straps is aggressive, to put it mildly.  The trigger is very nice, crisp and repeatable with little creep or over travel.

The sights took a little getting accustomed to as they appear to be regulated for POI on the dots, not at the top of the front sight.  Not a problem really, just an adjustment for me.

Don't doubt the Sig is a nice pistol, no personal experience with one.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 11:19:53 AM EDT
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It's as close to being a SACS gun without actually being a SACS gun.

Get one with the bull barrel and adjustable sights.
Link Posted: 3/3/2015 11:21:32 AM EDT
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I have a pair of black TRP's, never had an issue out of either with any type of ammo.



Shoot like damn laser beams too.




I need a TRP Operator
Link Posted: 3/5/2015 2:05:50 PM EDT
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mine eats the shit out of Tula.

close to a case through it.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 8:45:27 PM EDT
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TRP Tactical Operator here with the half rail (if that matters). All it did was make me have continous dreams about raising the money to buy a Stainless. Almost there so it wont be long now. After many rounds of testing, it became my night stand gun with a TLR-1 HL on the ril so I got to get another to carry.
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 2:46:13 PM EDT
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TRP is a bad ass pistol I love mine.  My only complaint is the 20lpi front strap checkering would be much better if it were 25lpi.
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 7:50:03 PM EDT
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TRP is a bad ass pistol I love mine.  My only complaint is the 20lpi front strap checkering would be much better if it were 25lpi.
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Or 30
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 8:16:17 PM EDT
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Sold mine a few years back when I got out of .45.  It is one of the few guns that I've sold that I really regret selling
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 8:44:25 PM EDT
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black TRP no rail here....

Shoots great and is a close runner to some of my custom built 1911s

I plan to pick up a railed TRP as well.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 4:08:30 PM EDT
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TRP is a bad ass pistol I love mine.  My only complaint is the 20lpi front strap checkering would be much better if it were 25lpi.

Or 30


No kidding anything would be better than 20 it is harsh.
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 6:24:17 AM EDT
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Or 30


No kidding anything would be better than 20 it is harsh.

I like it
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 6:36:21 AM EDT
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Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 11:37:13 AM EDT
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Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?
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Get one with the bull barrel and adjustable sights.


Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?

Wait, what wears out your slide faster???
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 12:31:52 PM EDT
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I have a TRP operator w/ full rail. I love it. Super accurate and good trigger. It took me forever to find it for a good deal though. It will never be sold.

ETA: the dealer I ordered it though had never seen one and when mine finally came in he wanted it! He was hoping I changed my mind. When I told him I most certainly did want it, he ordered one for himself.
Link Posted: 4/20/2015 10:31:56 PM EDT
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Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?
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Get one with the bull barrel and adjustable sights.


Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?


Why would not having a bushing be such a bad thing?  How long can all of the other makes of pistols go without a bushing?

Takedown on my TRP Operator is the easiest I have ever seen on a 1911.  I have the Dawson tool less guide rod, and I can disassemble my TRP in nothing flat.

The adjustable sight is excellent.  I don't have to send the pistol off to get it a set of sights to match where I want the point of impact to be.  I just fire, adjust, then fire for effect. It doesn't get any better than that.
Link Posted: 4/23/2015 3:51:41 AM EDT
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Why would not having a bushing be such a bad thing?  How long can all of the other makes of pistols go without a bushing?

Takedown on my TRP Operator is the easiest I have ever seen on a 1911.  I have the Dawson tool less guide rod, and I can disassemble my TRP in nothing flat.

The adjustable sight is excellent.  I don't have to send the pistol off to get it a set of sights to match where I want the point of impact to be.  I just fire, adjust, then fire for effect. It doesn't get any better than that.
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It's as close to being a SACS gun without actually being a SACS gun.

Get one with the bull barrel and adjustable sights.


Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?


Why would not having a bushing be such a bad thing?  How long can all of the other makes of pistols go without a bushing?

Takedown on my TRP Operator is the easiest I have ever seen on a 1911.  I have the Dawson tool less guide rod, and I can disassemble my TRP in nothing flat.

The adjustable sight is excellent.  I don't have to send the pistol off to get it a set of sights to match where I want the point of impact to be.  I just fire, adjust, then fire for effect. It doesn't get any better than that.

The heavier bull barrel does make a subtle difference to muzzle rise when shooting, I can attest to it having several 1911s. Most of my 1911s these days are bull/cone or heavy flange and I really see the barrel bushing as a thing of the past.

I also have the Dawson mod on mine and taking it apart is super fast (just like the armorers' grip takedown of some bull barrel Wilsons).

The adjustable night sights are buried in the slide, so they are covered by the slide in the back. I like being able to dial the gun in, it's currently set up for 10 yard 6:00, but I like being able to dial it in for steel gongs at 25 yards.
Link Posted: 4/23/2015 4:59:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2015 6:53:05 PM EDT
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The heavier bull barrel does make a subtle difference to muzzle rise when shooting, I can attest to it having several 1911s. Most of my 1911s these days are bull/cone or heavy flange and I really see the barrel bushing as a thing of the past.

I also have the Dawson mod on mine and taking it apart is super fast (just like the armorers' grip takedown of some bull barrel Wilsons).

The adjustable night sights are buried in the slide, so they are covered by the slide in the back. I like being able to dial the gun in, it's currently set up for 10 yard 6:00, but I like being able to dial it in for steel gongs at 25 yards.
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It's as close to being a SACS gun without actually being a SACS gun.

Get one with the bull barrel and adjustable sights.


Why?  This just complicates takedown and wears your slide down faster.  Does the heavy weight help manage recoil better?

Also, having adjustable sights on a combat pistol seems useless. Drift, zero, and call it good, no?


Why would not having a bushing be such a bad thing?  How long can all of the other makes of pistols go without a bushing?

Takedown on my TRP Operator is the easiest I have ever seen on a 1911.  I have the Dawson tool less guide rod, and I can disassemble my TRP in nothing flat.

The adjustable sight is excellent.  I don't have to send the pistol off to get it a set of sights to match where I want the point of impact to be.  I just fire, adjust, then fire for effect. It doesn't get any better than that.

The heavier bull barrel does make a subtle difference to muzzle rise when shooting, I can attest to it having several 1911s. Most of my 1911s these days are bull/cone or heavy flange and I really see the barrel bushing as a thing of the past.

I also have the Dawson mod on mine and taking it apart is super fast (just like the armorers' grip takedown of some bull barrel Wilsons).

The adjustable night sights are buried in the slide, so they are covered by the slide in the back. I like being able to dial the gun in, it's currently set up for 10 yard 6:00, but I like being able to dial it in for steel gongs at 25 yards.


Adjustable sights are great for a target/range but they have no place on pistol intended for serious self-defense/duty use.
Link Posted: 4/24/2015 8:35:43 PM EDT
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Let me drop in my personal experience with adjustable sights and why I've gone to fixed sights only on all my carry guns.

I used to open carry a gun while working at an indoor gun range.  During my work week I would often bump/bang my gun into boxes, cabinets, counters, lockers, benches, etc.  I was carrying either a 1911 with adjustable sights or a S&W model 66, also with adjustable sights.  It wasn't often that I would go more than a week without shooting, but the few times I did go a couple weeks between shooting, I was able to see a noticeable change from point of aim to point of impact.  I can only attribute the change to the sights moving over the rough abuse.

Now, I'm not saying there aren't sights with click-able ball bearing detents, or that they can't be locktighted, or that ALL sights will migrate over time, but I can tell you with the guns I carried, they DID, since then I have only carried fixed sight guns.

Your mileage may vary.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 9:16:14 AM EDT
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Up here in the peoples republic of Massachusetts, we are subject to buying from a handguN roster approved by the attorney general, similar to California.  Springfields are not on the list.  However you can basically buy anything person to person as long as it doesn't violate the state AWB.  I came across a full rail TRP operator a few years ago.  I had to sell it due to a surgery and some medical bills.  I have regetted selling it ever since.  It was the best semi custom 1911 I have ever owned.....
And I work for a firearms manufacturers that makes 1911s.

The wife and I are moving to Florida at the end of the month and the first handgun purchase down there will be either the new Loaded Operator, half rail Trp or an old school mc operator.  Shit, maybe I'll buy two.
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 3:12:29 PM EDT
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I have owned both a TRP and still own a Sig P220 West German the 1 and only negative I can say about the TRP is that the front strap checkering is very aggressive! If You have Shoe Leather Hands it probably won't matter to You. I have been a Auto Tech for 32 Years and My Hands are pretty tuff, but not tuff enough to deal with the sharp checkering on the TRP. I have skate board tape on My Sig and like it ok. I guess I could have covered the TRP checkering with skate board tape but actually never thought about doing it, I sold the TRP and bought a MC Operator the older MC Operator with No Checkering.

The Sig has a great grip but can be a little snappy if You shoot 230G Loads due it's lighter weight and shorter barrel length compared to a 5" 1911 I prefer to shoot My 200G FMJ Reloads at 825fps nice easy load to shoot that is very accurate too.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 11:02:46 PM EDT
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I LOVE the 20lpi front strap checkering. I wish the mainspring housing was cut as sharply too. Too many of you have girly hands.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 11:35:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/1/2015 1:16:26 PM EDT
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I'm about to pick up a pair of TRP's this week.  A black and a stainless one.  Looking forward to posting some gun porn pics of them.

I'm paying $2050 out the door for the new pair.  I can't pass them up at that price!
Link Posted: 5/5/2015 9:22:12 PM EDT
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I'm about to pick up a pair of TRP's this week.  A black and a stainless one.  Looking forward to posting some gun porn pics of them.

I'm paying $2050 out the door for the new pair.  I can't pass them up at that price!
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Don't get much better than that.
Link Posted: 5/6/2015 5:05:51 PM EDT
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I just won one on gunbroker for $850+ shipping. Shows some wear. Seller says the owner was a police officer, so I'm not sure if thats good or bad.
Link Posted: 5/6/2015 6:34:27 PM EDT
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Sounds like a good price... If its still tight you got a deal
Link Posted: 5/6/2015 8:23:33 PM EDT
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Is that the factory front sight paired with a Harrison rear...?
Link Posted: 5/6/2015 8:24:18 PM EDT
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10-8 rear...?
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Sounds like a good price... If its still tight you got a deal

I'll post pics and a review after shooting it compared to my loaded.  
ETA: paid for it and it shipped today. coming from MS to SC.
Link Posted: 5/13/2015 1:38:11 PM EDT
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ETA: paid for it and it shipped today. coming from MS to SC.
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I just won one on gunbroker for $850+ shipping. Shows some wear. Seller says the owner was a police officer, so I'm not sure if thats good or bad.


Sounds like a good price... If its still tight you got a deal

I'll post pics and a review after shooting it compared to my loaded.  
ETA: paid for it and it shipped today. coming from MS to SC.



Ok good news is pistol shoots pretty good, and the wear is not too bad. Ill have pics tonight.

Bad news, shot it the first time today and the right side safety flew off when I let the slide forward using the slide release. Nothing looks broken. Do I just pop it back into place and carry on? How does the safety stay on?
Link Posted: 5/13/2015 2:09:53 PM EDT
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Have owened both the TRP is a much better gun for accuracy and trigger . All around better gun is the TRP .
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Fixed it for you

Alaskan fire had it right , if the checkering is to aggresive for you maybe you can do some manual labor and toughen up your girly hands
Link Posted: 5/13/2015 2:49:12 PM EDT
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This but I special ordered the fixed Harrison Design sights.  

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Link Posted: 5/14/2015 7:19:37 AM EDT
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Here are the pics: wear doesnt seem too bad on the rails


Barrel and slide have matching numbers:


But one  youtube video said there should be a third number here???


some finish wear:


and some wear near the grip safety


not too bad for $900, and I just used some pliers so squeeze the safety back together. it popped off during the first magazine shooting.
Link Posted: 5/25/2015 12:57:37 AM EDT
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I have a TRP Operator that I've carried for 6 years now.  The wear is more than what you show there, but the gun shoots amazing.

As far as the checkering, at the end of a long range day my fingers are a little raw, but I've shot it in the rain, cold, heat/sweat, etc and have never had an issue with keeping a grip on the gun.  For a duty style gun the checkering is worthwhile.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 5:37:56 PM EDT
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Just ordered a TRP Operator the other day.  Should be in soon and I'll post some pics of it.
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Is that the factory front sight paired with a Harrison rear...?


Yes Harrison custom rear sight. Trijicon hd in orange in the front.
Link Posted: 6/2/2015 1:55:22 AM EDT
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Your safety will most likely continue to fall off.  Looks like the previous owner cut off the "leg" of the safety on the right side that goes under the grip to keep it in place.  This was probably cut off because the replacement grips do not have the ambi cut-out for the "leg"

The proper fix is going to cost some $$$ to get the gun back to factory spec.  New FITTED thumb safety(might be able to find a used ambi on the EE, and just use the right side, will still need to be fitted).  And a set of grips that have the Ambi cut out under the right side grip.

You can always do away with the ambi safety and go to a left side only....but that means a new FITTED safety but no change in the grips.

Take care of those two things and you will have a good shooter for sure.

AR15-SBR
Link Posted: 6/7/2015 3:06:19 AM EDT
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I carry my TRP Op daily on duty. I haven't had a problem with the sights drifting. They are solid with the detent.

Link Posted: 6/16/2015 10:05:22 AM EDT
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I considered saying this previously but it was late at night and I wanted to reconsider it but: I could swear I read about a user friendly method of taking down a 20lpi grip to something less. It's not exact and your finish will be gone but your fingers will thank you.
I think a lot of leo/swat types wear gloves. All the mil pics I've seen here show soldiers shooting with gloves on.

I bought a champion pistol from 1astrisk* and it has the 20lpi and a bead blast. I shot it and wow! I wrote him back and asked about the checkering. He said he has them checkered before he takes them on duty and bead blasts them when their time is up. He said he'd buy it back but if I'd do some yard work I'd be okay. He had the coolest collection of 1911s(talking about the ones he offered for sale here)!

Hope he's okay. I think there were some medical issues going on but I don't know if they were his or a family member.
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