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Posted: 12/4/2016 9:51:02 PM EDT
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Try the Kimber and let us know.
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Posted: 12/4/2016 10:21:53 PM EDT
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Taurus
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Posted: 12/4/2016 11:03:26 PM EDT
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60 pro
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Posted: 12/4/2016 11:05:18 PM EDT
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I believe the 60 Pro is the big bore twin to my model 63, correct?
One of those would be nice! May even be cheaper than the the 63. It was steep! |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 11:27:06 PM EDT
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since you already have a Centennial... SW 640
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Posted: 12/4/2016 11:39:00 PM EDT
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since you already have a Centennial... SW 640 60Pro fits your bill  S&W Model 60 Pro by John Hermesmeyer, on Flickr
 S&W Model 60 Pro by John Hermesmeyer, on Flickr
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Posted: 12/5/2016 7:31:24 AM EDT
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since you already have a Centennial... SW 640 The 640 I is the hammerless S&W .357 model. It's become my daily CCW weapon. 
eta By the bye, if you don't already know.. this gun will make your hand feel like it's been pounded with a 20# maul, after just one cylinder! BEWARE! |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 10:45:29 AM EDT
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Friend has a three inch 60 in 357. It is not pleasant. Two and a half inch 66 can still be found, tho the price is usually pretty grim. A three inch 65 is about the perfect carry revolver. Unfortunately everyone knows that and they are very hard to find. The 64 is the 38 version and is also quite nice and tends to be a little easier to find.
Ruger is good. I have a three inch Wiley Clapp GP-100 that I carry from time to time. They make or at least used to make a three inch SP-101 but they're pretty scarce. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:42:48 PM EDT
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60-9 is a nice little J-frame. Mine carries nice and usually lives most of its life in my pool cue case.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 8:45:12 PM EDT
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Ruger SP101?
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Posted: 12/5/2016 9:00:20 PM EDT
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Another vote for the 60...fixed sight with 2 inch barrel OR adj sights with 3 inch.
great little handgun |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 9:22:16 PM EDT
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Not a J frame, but since you are talking 2-3" barrel which takes you beyond pocket size, S&W is slated to introduce a 2.75" 66 K-frame soon.
http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=SM10061 I would expect that these will be in demand when they hit the market, commanding full MSRP or close to it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 3:02:14 PM EDT
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The 640 I is the hammerless S&W .357 model. It's become my daily CCW weapon. http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/4959082620/7033049/e1101084ab4985bf6634f61129ea63ee.jpg eta By the bye, if you don't already know.. this gun will make your hand feel like it's been pounded with a 20# maul, after just one cylinder! BEWARE!  . Really? I know it's got some bark but it's still shootable. Much easier to shoot than the Scandium series.
I really like my 640. I would like to upgrade the sights one day but that's about all. |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 3:23:23 PM EDT
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The regular model 60 comes in both 2" and 3" variants, and that would be my choice.
I think the 60 "Pro" looks retarded, but to each their own. |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 3:31:14 PM EDT
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Summit Gun Broker has some pretty good looking 640 trade-ins.
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Posted: 12/8/2016 1:37:54 AM EDT
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The regular model 60 comes in both 2" and 3" variants, and that would be my choice. I think the 60 "Pro" looks retarded, but to each their own. Yes To each his own |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 2:00:34 AM EDT
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Friend has a three inch 60 in 357. It is not pleasant. Two and a half inch 66 can still be found, tho the price is usually pretty grim. A three inch 65 is about the perfect carry revolver. Unfortunately everyone knows that and they are very hard to find. The 64 is the 38 version and is also quite nice and tends to be a little easier to find. Ruger is good. I have a three inch Wiley Clapp GP-100 that I carry from time to time. They make or at least used to make a three inch SP-101 but they're pretty scarce. Yep, a S&W Model 65 Lady Smith is still one of my grail guns- they are closest to the perfect carry revolver in my opinion. You want unpleasant J-frames though- I was looking for a 3" 60 Pro* and found a 3" 360 for the same price because nobody wanted it. I bought it to replace the 642 I use as a hiking gun, figuring it couldn't be much worse than the 642 which I shoot pretty well. Wrong. With .357s it is downright brutal, like being smacked in the hand with a hammer handle, and I like big bore revolvers. It's not as bad with .38 +Ps but still noticeable over the 642. It's nice and light though. 
* Agreed about them looking kinda retarded since the lines don't all match up as smoothly as a regular 60 but they usually have a nicer trigger on them. |
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Posted: 12/11/2016 12:07:00 PM EDT
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You need a "model19, 2 1/2"; I carry one and love it. Very accurate!
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Posted: 12/11/2016 12:19:25 PM EDT
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Ruger SP101 3" |
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Posted: 12/11/2016 12:41:04 PM EDT
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649 .357 is a really nice gun. Shrouded hammer makes it snag proof but you have access to the hammer for single action.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 1:53:13 PM EDT
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Try the Kimber and let us know. Have you ever dealt with Kimber? |
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Posted: 12/11/2016 9:03:39 PM EDT
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3" 686 Plus.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 10:13:14 PM EDT
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I've not dealt with Kimber but I've owned several of their rifles.
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Posted: 12/21/2016 11:22:10 PM EDT
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Have looked at a few used Model 60s, and 60 Pros.
Kind of like used Toyota trucks.... I can get a new gun cheaper. :-( Still haven't given up on a 3" SP101 either. They are more reasonably priced on the used market. |
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Posted: 12/22/2016 2:21:28 AM EDT
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S&W Model 60. Try some different grips, like the Ergos.
I'm not a .357 snub fan myself, though they're great for launching .38+Ps. |
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Posted: 12/22/2016 4:30:06 AM EDT
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I love my CHARTER ARMS!
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Posted: 12/22/2016 11:30:25 PM EDT
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If you are going to shoot 357's then get a 3" SP101.
The J frame is too light. |
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Posted: 12/23/2016 5:08:21 PM EDT
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If you are going to shoot 357's then get a 3" SP101. The J frame is too light. I agree that even a steel frame Model 60 is a bit light to comfortably shoot in .357 Mag for very long. I have both 2.125" and 3" Model 60s as well as a 3" SP101. The SP 101 is 5 ounces heavier and that weight does make some difference in shooting it, but you'll still want a good recoil absorbing grip on it like the Hogue Monogrip. The S&W grip is a little too skinny. The SP101 carriers some of the extra weight in the full under lug barrel, but it also has a heavier forcing cone and a slightly heavier frame, which means it also holds up to .357 Magnum loads better than the .S&W Model 60. Now...with that said, I'll go one step farther and state the SP101 is also too light to shoot effectively in .357 Magnum, particularly when you understand you have to shoot a short barrel .357 a lot to get good with it. If you are going to be carrying in an IWB holster, then the extra weight and slightly greater bulk of a K-frame won't be noticed. On the right side, top to bottom is a 3" Ruger SP101, a 3" S&W Model 60, and a 2.125" S&W Model 60. On the left side, top to bottom is a 3" S&W Model 19, a 2 3/4" Ruger Speed Six, and a 2.5" S&W Model 66. The speed six is more of an L frame and is about 5-6 ounces heavier than the others, but it is still not objectionable to carry all day long. 
Of course, once you've gone to a K frame Model 66 (left), it's a barely noticeable step to the 7 round L frame 686 Plus (right). You can shoot an L frame short barrel revolver pretty much forever with full power .357 magnum loads and neither break your revolver or break your hand. 
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Posted: 12/24/2016 2:52:33 PM EDT
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S&W 60 or 640
Ruger SP101 |
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Posted: 12/24/2016 3:40:04 PM EDT
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Ruger SP101? This is what I have. Doubles as a club when you don't have time to reload.
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Posted: 12/24/2016 11:02:12 PM EDT
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I agree that even a steel frame Model 60 is a bit light to comfortably shoot in .357 Mag for very long. I have both 2.125" and 3" Model 60s as well as a 3" SP101. The SP 101 is 5 ounces heavier and that weight does make some difference in shooting it, but you'll still want a good recoil absorbing grip on it like the Hogue Monogrip. The S&W grip is a little too skinny. The SP101 carriers some of the extra weight in the full under lug barrel, but it also has a heavier forcing cone and a slightly heavier frame, which means it also holds up to .357 Magnum loads better than the .S&W Model 60. Now...with that said, I'll go one step farther and state the SP101 is also too light to shoot effectively in .357 Magnum, particularly when you understand you have to shoot a short barrel .357 a lot to get good with it. If you are going to be carrying in an IWB holster, then the extra weight and slightly greater bulk of a K-frame won't be noticed. On the right side, top to bottom is a 3" Ruger SP101, a 3" S&W Model 60, and a 2.125" S&W Model 60. On the left side, top to bottom is a 3" S&W Model 19, a 2 3/4" Ruger Speed Six, and a 2.5" S&W Model 66. The speed six is more of an L frame and is about 5-6 ounces heavier than the others, but it is still not objectionable to carry all day long. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/revolvers/BA8F0CC5-98CA-42CA-A378-79B9EBF6F7CC_zpso1kxswmc.jpg Of course, once you've gone to a K frame Model 66 (left), it's a barely noticeable step to the 7 round L frame 686 Plus (right). You can shoot an L frame short barrel revolver pretty much forever with full power .357 magnum loads and neither break your revolver or break your hand. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/revolvers/IMG_0026_zpsvdb52tbc.jpg |
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Posted: 12/25/2016 5:44:24 AM EDT
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What do you want it for?
If it's a carry gun in a pocket or on a belt holster with just a shirt over it, then either the S&W 640 or 60 will be excellent choices. Small, decently light, nice triggers (the one on my 60 is super nice), well made and accurate. They do kick will full power loads, hey, it's a .357 mag and 20 ish ozs. I had both my 640 and 60 Mag-na-ported, and it made a big difference. For .357 loads, I use Rem Golden Sabers, which aren't a super hot 357 load. If you're going to do more shooing with it, or then step up to a K or L frame gun. |
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Posted: 12/25/2016 7:35:10 AM EDT
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Sp101
Got one for my wife, great little gun. It's better to shoot than I expected but it's no gp100 when shooting 357's. You'll feel them in the sp, nothing painful though. 
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Posted: 1/7/2017 11:31:12 PM EDT
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Well, shortly after I started this thread the police trade in 640s became available.
At $345 shipped, it was hard to pass up. Can't wait for the text from my FFL. 
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Posted: 1/7/2017 11:51:46 PM EDT
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Another shout out for the 640. This one is wearing a set of Sile grips.
LOL. Just read your last post. When you get it pull the sideplate and see if it is as dry as mine was. You are going to like it. |
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Posted: 1/9/2017 12:29:30 PM EDT
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Top photo, left hand side, top gun... you list as a Model 19 yet it looks like it has fixed sights. That would make it a 13 instead, correct? Or did they make 19s with fixed sights? Yes, sorry, it's a Model 13 in the round butt, 3" FBI configuration. |
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Posted: 1/9/2017 12:39:26 PM EDT
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K or L frame size would be my pick for a 357.
Try the SP101 if you have to stay with a five shot. |
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Posted: 1/9/2017 6:21:38 PM EDT
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Well, shortly after I started this thread the police trade in 640s became available. At $345 shipped, it was hard to pass up. Can't wait for the text from my FFL. Good choice, OP. I've carried one for 3-4 years and like it. Of course, it kicks like an angry bus with .357 loads; I keep +p in it now. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 1:04:47 PM EDT
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60Pro fits your bill S&W Model 60 Pro by John Hermesmeyer, on Flickr S&W Model 60 Pro by John Hermesmeyer, on Flickr I own this revolver and love it. |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 9:03:14 PM EDT
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Ruger SP101? No bad angles and polishing doesn't require any improvement. Even return trigger spring and hammer spring are lighter than on my other two SP101s |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 12:06:56 PM EDT
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Girlfriend just picked up a Wiley Clapp SP101. Pretty sweet little revolver, I really like it.
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Posted: 1/27/2017 12:52:26 AM EDT
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I would like to get a steel frame .357, with a 2 or 3" barrel. I know Ruger makes a nice one. Probably wouldn't pick a Taurus. I really like S&W guns and already have a 642. I also have a model 63 kit gun in .22 with a 3" barrel but I'm not sure what the .357 is that looks just like it. What are some .357 J frame model numbers I should look for? Thanks. I may be biased, because I now have two because I like the so much... the 640 PRO would fit your criteria... and look good doing it! |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 10:52:00 AM EDT
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I am somewhat partial to 3 inch barreled revolvers due to being an old guy who was issued revolvers for work for many years. The 3 in being my favorite for carry with a round but and pachmayr grips to adsorb the recoil. GREAT GUNS don't always carry magnum ammo in them but it is an option if it is necessary along with snake loads for walking trails in snake country if I screw up and get too close.
Left side from top to bottom: 3in 629, 3in 66, 2 1/2 in 686. Right side: 3 in Model 60, regular Model 60 (went with the divorce) and a S&W 351 PD in .22 Mag 
3 in Speed 6 I just acquired. 
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:35:52 PM EDT
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Took the 640 to the range.
Several different target and jhp .38 loads were almost like shooting a .22. Shot some Critical Defense 125gr .357 magnum loads. A good thump, but controllable. Loaded up some American Gunner 125gr magnums. HOLY COW! I thought the gun blew up! The KaBoom and the recoil were truly astounding. Oddly enough, they are listed as the same muzzle velocity and energy as the Critical Defense, but they sure behaved differently in that gun. Guess I won't be shooting any 158gr magnum loads. 
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Posted: 1/30/2017 4:57:37 PM EDT
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I would say any of them that are a quality offering will be a fine choice. It's more of what you like. I've eyed them all. I've never shot any of them in .357 though. I nearly bought an SP101 2.25"er DAO. And the one I was going to had a decent trigger. And I think I would've liked it for carrying and the extra weight for shooting. I ended up with my Step Dad's 442 after he passed away, so I didn't buy the Ruger. But I think I would've preferred a steel frame snubby. A 3"er would be good too.
The Model 60 Pro or no Pro seem like great guns too. I would have no problems trying the Kimber if I had that kind of money. I had a Kimber Custom II 1911 and it was my most accurate pistol I've ever owned. Well maybe besides my Model 16 6"er. I must've missed it though, this 640, did you buy it or were you just borrowing one? I carry Hornady .38 special American Hangunner 125 grain XTP in my 442 and they too feel stiffer than any of the other standard pressure .38's I shoot. They must be hot or something. I might change because I'm not too crazy about shooting them. The feel almost like plus p's. Not quite, but getting there. OK, I went back and saw your post where you bought it. I missed it the first 2 times through. GREAT CHOICE!!! Looks great. You know what holster you're going to get? I'd love to see what kind of accuracy you're getting. You can see how lousy I shoot in my last post called 442 Range report. About 2 weeks ago. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_33/173610_442-range-report--critique-away----.html |
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Posted: 1/31/2017 10:26:06 PM EDT
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First time out with the 640 I put up some 5" paper plates and shot from 15 feet.
Doing a 5x5 drill. 5" circle, 5 yards, 5 shots on target in 5 seconds or less. Rapidly keeping my .38 and .38+P rounds on the plate was much easier with the steel 640 than with my aluminum 642. I'm pretty sure I've never passed the 5x5 with the 642. Magnum Critical Defense was a different story, but shooting .38s in the steel gun is sweet. |
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