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Posted: 4/4/2016 8:25:45 PM EDT
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It is rated for .357 so .38 +p is fine.
+p has a max pressure of 20,000 psi. .357 mag is 35,000 psi. |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 8:29:47 PM EDT
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It is rated for .357 so .38 +p is fine. +p has a max pressure of 20,000 psi. .357 mag is 35,000 psi. Thanks for the extremely quick reply. I'm going to the range tomorrow and wasn't sure if I'd get an answer in time. 
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Posted: 4/7/2016 12:43:21 AM EDT
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It is rated for .357 so .38 +p is fine. +p has a max pressure of 20,000 psi. .357 mag is 35,000 psi. This. .38+P is totally fine. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 2:54:01 PM EDT
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Besides, it's a huge honkin N frame.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:54:11 PM EDT
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+P .38 ammo is bunny fart material for a M27. You want to test your wrist a bit try some of the Buffalo Bore 180gr ammo.
Seriously, enjoy your 27. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:42:24 PM EDT
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Awesome gun, enjoy!
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Posted: 7/18/2016 2:18:13 PM EDT
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If you can still seat a bullet on top of the powder in a .357 case, a Model 27 can handle it.
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:44:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can still seat a bullet on top of the powder in a .357 case, a Model 27 can handle it. I predict something like this. You will find that about 12.4 grains of Titegroup will fill the case under a 158 gr Hornady XTP seated at max suggested OAL of 1.59. The peak pressure would be a bit over 130,000 psi, but you will never get there. At about 80,000-90,000 psi the brass cartridge would start to flow out between the recoil shield and back of the cylinder like silly putty. That is, unless the cylinder has chosen to show you its impression of a hand grenade before the brass gets around to doing its silly-putty impression. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 4:40:32 PM EDT
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That is a pretty silly thing to type. You fill a 357 Magnum case up with Hodgdon's Titegroup and tell me what happens. I predict something like this. You will find that about 12.4 grains of Titegroup will fill the case under a 158 gr Hornady XTP seated at max suggested OAL of 1.59. The peak pressure would be a bit over 130,000 psi, but you will never get there. At about 80,000-90,000 psi the brass cartridge would start to flow out between the recoil shield and back of the cylinder like silly putty. That is, unless the cylinder has chosen to show you its impression of a hand grenade before the brass gets around to doing its silly-putty impression. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you can still seat a bullet on top of the powder in a .357 case, a Model 27 can handle it. I predict something like this. You will find that about 12.4 grains of Titegroup will fill the case under a 158 gr Hornady XTP seated at max suggested OAL of 1.59. The peak pressure would be a bit over 130,000 psi, but you will never get there. At about 80,000-90,000 psi the brass cartridge would start to flow out between the recoil shield and back of the cylinder like silly putty. That is, unless the cylinder has chosen to show you its impression of a hand grenade before the brass gets around to doing its silly-putty impression. Can I call you Sheldon or would you prefer Dr. Cooper. ;-) I think the above post had an air of whimsy to it... |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 5:08:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can I call you Sheldon or would you prefer Dr. Cooper. ;-) I think the above post had an air of whimsy to it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you can still seat a bullet on top of the powder in a .357 case, a Model 27 can handle it. I predict something like this. You will find that about 12.4 grains of Titegroup will fill the case under a 158 gr Hornady XTP seated at max suggested OAL of 1.59. The peak pressure would be a bit over 130,000 psi, but you will never get there. At about 80,000-90,000 psi the brass cartridge would start to flow out between the recoil shield and back of the cylinder like silly putty. That is, unless the cylinder has chosen to show you its impression of a hand grenade before the brass gets around to doing its silly-putty impression. Can I call you Sheldon or would you prefer Dr. Cooper. ;-) I think the above post had an air of whimsy to it... Dr Cooper will suffice. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 12:46:53 PM EDT
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Dr Cooper will suffice.
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If you can still seat a bullet on top of the powder in a .357 case, a Model 27 can handle it. I predict something like this. You will find that about 12.4 grains of Titegroup will fill the case under a 158 gr Hornady XTP seated at max suggested OAL of 1.59. The peak pressure would be a bit over 130,000 psi, but you will never get there. At about 80,000-90,000 psi the brass cartridge would start to flow out between the recoil shield and back of the cylinder like silly putty. That is, unless the cylinder has chosen to show you its impression of a hand grenade before the brass gets around to doing its silly-putty impression. Can I call you Sheldon or would you prefer Dr. Cooper. ;-) I think the above post had an air of whimsy to it... Dr Cooper will suffice.
My point was, unless you intentionally want a hand grenade, a M27 can take pretty much anything you put in it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 1:44:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My point was, unless you intentionally want a hand grenade, a M27 can take pretty much anything you put in it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you can still seat a bullet on top of the powder in a .357 case, a Model 27 can handle it. I predict something like this. You will find that about 12.4 grains of Titegroup will fill the case under a 158 gr Hornady XTP seated at max suggested OAL of 1.59. The peak pressure would be a bit over 130,000 psi, but you will never get there. At about 80,000-90,000 psi the brass cartridge would start to flow out between the recoil shield and back of the cylinder like silly putty. That is, unless the cylinder has chosen to show you its impression of a hand grenade before the brass gets around to doing its silly-putty impression. Can I call you Sheldon or would you prefer Dr. Cooper. ;-) I think the above post had an air of whimsy to it... Dr Cooper will suffice. My point was, unless you intentionally want a hand grenade, a M27 can take pretty much anything you put in it.  Not to mention I wanted to see how high a pressure I could get Quickloads to predict in a 357 Mag and be a smart-arse at the same time. I really though Red Dot or Bulleye would have done better but Titegroup is so dense it won.  I might have gotten higher with a heavier bullet but 158gr is pretty common so I used it.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 5:54:38 AM EDT
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the 27 is an N frame it was originally meant for 357 magnums that were used to killl grizzlys and walrus.
same frame the 44magnum is built on 
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:00:51 AM EDT
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I figured that is what you meant but what if someone, someone rather naive, took you literally? Kaboom! Not to mention I wanted to see how high a pressure I could get Quickloads to predict in a 357 Mag and be a smart-arse at the same time. I really though Red Dot or Bulleye would have done better but Titegroup is so dense it won. I might have gotten higher with a heavier bullet but 158gr is pretty common so I used it.I have loaded 230 gr bullets in a 686 before. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:41:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have loaded 230 gr bullets in a 686 before. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I figured that is what you meant but what if someone, someone rather naive, took you literally? Kaboom! Not to mention I wanted to see how high a pressure I could get Quickloads to predict in a 357 Mag and be a smart-arse at the same time. I really though Red Dot or Bulleye would have done better but Titegroup is so dense it won. I might have gotten higher with a heavier bullet but 158gr is pretty common so I used it.I have loaded 230 gr bullets in a 686 before. I can't seem to get any bullet-power combo to go much over 130,000 psi without going to compressed loads. If we are willing to compress loads we can get stupid high pressures. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:40:36 PM EDT
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I guess it's up to me to be the arsehole to point out that the OP has 33K+ posts and doesn't know that it is safe to shoot .38SPL+P out of a .357. Speaks volumes on high post count internet forum knowledge.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:57:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess it's up to me to be the arsehole to point out that the OP has 33K+ posts and doesn't know that it is safe to shoot .38SPL+P out of a .357. Speaks volumes on high post count internet forum knowledge. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 11:36:25 AM EDT
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True, he is either trolled us or is pretty light in the mental faculties, or both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess it's up to me to be the arsehole to point out that the OP has 33K+ posts and doesn't know that it is safe to shoot .38SPL+P out of a .357. Speaks volumes on high post count internet forum knowledge. This is the first wheel gun I've ever owned. I got it when a close family member and the guy that taught me how to shoot as a kid left it to me in his will. I figured it was most likely safe to shoot, but I just wanted to make sure before I risked a family heirloom. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks to those that helped.
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