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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:14:56 PM EDT
UPDATE 1/29/16: still no word from Ruger.
UPDATE 1/25/16: havent heard back from Ruger yet... Its a brand new gun, whats taking so long... UPDATE 1/13/16: RMA'd the revolver. Ruger will have a look at it. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION 1/14/16: I purchased this from Tombstonetactical. Don't be fooled by their attractive price. The shipping took forever. I just got my new 5" GP100 I was disappointed. Here are 3 main reasons. 1. The revolver rifling has 5 grooves. At the muzzle, top 3 grooves were very visible and distinct, bottom 2 were not. You can clearly see it in the pictures. Should I contact Ruger? 
2. So many visible nicks 
3. The bore was dirty. I know they test fire this before ship out but damn what's in the muzzle is straight up rust.
I really don't mind the dirty bore or the small nicks which don't affect the performance/accuracy of the gun at all--they all happen over time--it's natural but what is up with the grooves? Am I being too nitpicky? Should I really contact Ruger? Thanks! Oh by the way, the monogrip is amazing. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:36:14 PM EDT
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Give Ruger a call for your peace of mind.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:47:53 PM EDT
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Can almost never hurt to call.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:54:04 PM EDT
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They will make it right, give 'em a call.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:12:50 PM EDT
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I though only S&W put out such poor craftsmanship?
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Posted: 1/12/2016 12:38:23 AM EDT
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How does it shoot ?
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Posted: 1/12/2016 8:43:18 AM EDT
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I bought my son a Henry Mini Bolt when he was 7. We took it out to sight it in. He couldn't hit anything with it. Finally, he hit the Shoot-n-See and it looked like a .44 hit the target. It had keyholed. I looked at the crown, it was fine. I looked through the bore from the breech and it looked fine. Finally, I looked closer at the rifling at the bore. It was cut straight the last 1-1/2". Sent it back on their dime and they sent a new rifle back.
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Posted: 1/12/2016 2:23:07 PM EDT
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How does it shoot ? It's brand new still. I sent them an email and am waiting for a response. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it shoot ? |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:50:49 PM EDT
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Where did you buy it?
SS doesn't rust easily. Ruger will make it right. They aren't lookers, they're shooters but something isn't right with that one. I hope some Bubba gun store employee hasn't fucked with it. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:54:12 PM EDT
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That's copper fouling
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:56:28 PM EDT
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That's not rust. It's copper fouling. Looks fine to me
The red on the breech face is primer sealant. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:11:06 PM EDT
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I though only S&W put out such poor craftsmanship? Older S&Ws are perty. Rugers are typically pretty ugly. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 1:03:27 PM EDT
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Wow...
I was thinking about picking up a Ruger wheel gun next weekend, but holy shit...are they hiring for the QC Department? |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 2:11:11 PM EDT
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Wow... I was thinking about picking up a Ruger wheel gun next weekend, but holy shit...are they hiring for the QC Department? I dont mean to suggest others reconsider purchasing Ruger firearms. theit customer service is very good. It could be the dealer who may have Effed up the gun, who knows. I think Ruger gp100 is a looker too. Thats one of the reasons I bought it over smith. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 2:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I though only S&W put out such poor craftsmanship? |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 3:16:36 PM EDT
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Older S&Ws are perty. Rugers are typically pretty ugly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I though only S&W put out such poor craftsmanship? Older S&Ws are perty. Rugers are typically pretty ugly. Things change over time. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that dad bought in '71, I think. The bluing on it and the finish are beautiful, much better than the ones sold today. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 3:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yep .....but that rifling looks fucked up. the scratches and stuff are typical ruger Thinking they will replace the barrel, and you'll be happy when it comes back  If you want pretty and well made, find an older S&W 686, . . . . dash-4 is about the best. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/Smith%20revolvers/sw686_zps0e769aaf.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/Smith%20revolvers/686h2_zpsz9sqedfq.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's not rust. It's copper fouling. .... The red on the breech face is primer sealant. yep .....but that rifling looks fucked up. the scratches and stuff are typical ruger Thinking they will replace the barrel, and you'll be happy when it comes back If you want pretty and well made, find an older S&W 686, . . . . dash-4 is about the best. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/Smith%20revolvers/sw686_zps0e769aaf.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/Smith%20revolvers/686h2_zpsz9sqedfq.jpg  |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 5:02:00 PM EDT
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Have seen this before with some Rugers - crown appears to have been cut off-center. Had the exact same thing on a Mini-14 that threw 'patterns' - re-cut the crown to the bore centerline and groups really tightened up nicely.
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Posted: 1/13/2016 7:04:41 PM EDT
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Quote Historymost, including me, prefer dash -4, old enough to have forged internals, new enough to have drilled&tapped for optics, and the ( stronger) 7 shot cylinder 
nothing wrong with a dash -2 though |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 7:09:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: most, including me, prefer dash -4, old enough to have forged internals, new enough to have drilled&tapped for optics, and the ( stronger) 7 shot cylinder nothing wrong with a dash -2 though Quote HistoryQuoted: most, including me, prefer dash -4, old enough to have forged internals, new enough to have drilled&tapped for optics, and the ( stronger) 7 shot cylinder nothing wrong with a dash -2 though No need for optics and six shots is good enough damn it! |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 7:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: most, including me, prefer dash -4, old enough to have forged internals, new enough to have drilled&tapped for optics, and the ( stronger) 7 shot cylinder nothing wrong with a dash -2 though Quote HistoryQuoted: most, including me, prefer dash -4, old enough to have forged internals, new enough to have drilled&tapped for optics, and the ( stronger) 7 shot cylinder nothing wrong with a dash -2 though Good points. |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 12:41:19 AM EDT
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Have seen this before with some Rugers - crown appears to have been cut off-center. Had the exact same thing on a Mini-14 that threw 'patterns' - re-cut the crown to the bore centerline and groups really tightened up nicely. Bird I'm not doubting you but the grooves are actually none existent to begin with. I think there was a problem in the forging process. |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 12:42:23 AM EDT
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Bah! No need for optics and six shots is good enough damn it!
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most, including me, prefer dash -4, old enough to have forged internals, new enough to have drilled&tapped for optics, and the ( stronger) 7 shot cylinder
nothing wrong with a dash -2 though No need for optics and six shots is good enough damn it!
Optics aren't necessary for accuracy but definitely helps rate of fire unless you are Jerry Miculek, of course. |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 5:14:08 AM EDT
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Things change over time. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that dad bought in '71, I think. The bluing on it and the finish are beautiful, much better than the ones sold today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I though only S&W put out such poor craftsmanship? Older S&Ws are perty. Rugers are typically pretty ugly. Things change over time. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that dad bought in '71, I think. The bluing on it and the finish are beautiful, much better than the ones sold today. The early 70s revolvers were pretty nice. 
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Posted: 1/14/2016 2:36:21 PM EDT
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I would not be thrilled about that either. Yeah if it shoots good then fine. But I'd be worried that accuracy would degrade quicker than it should.
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Posted: 1/14/2016 3:27:20 PM EDT
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Was this a mail order gun? One nice thing about buying local, gun in hand.
Glad to see it was RMA'ed. Ruger has been good to me over the years. |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 3:39:52 PM EDT
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a good crown is key to accuracy
I'd send it back too |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 4:06:03 PM EDT
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Talked with another Arfcommer who is really interested in the GP100 match champion. He and I were wondering if maybe you didn't get a test/eval gun that was accidentally shipped.
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Posted: 1/14/2016 7:19:39 PM EDT
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Talked with another Arfcommer who is really interested in the GP100 match champion. He and I were wondering if maybe you didn't get a test/eval gun that was accidentally shipped. I would go with a 5" barrel. I don't know what a test/eval gun is but the gun appeared very new. |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 7:26:50 PM EDT
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Was this a mail order gun? One nice thing about buying local, gun in hand. Glad to see it was RMA'ed. Ruger has been good to me over the years. Yes, I got it from Tombstonetactical.com PLEASE, DO NOT be fooled by their attractive price. They list items in stock that they do not even have. I placed my order and called for delivery estimate. They literally told me they have to get the gun from the distributor then ship it to me. Shipping took forever. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 9:04:20 AM EDT
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Yes, I got it from Tombstonetactical.com PLEASE, DO NOT be fooled by their attractive price. They list items in stock that they do not even have. I placed my order and called for delivery estimate. They literally told me they have to get the gun from the distributor then ship it to me. Shipping took forever. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was this a mail order gun? One nice thing about buying local, gun in hand. Glad to see it was RMA'ed. Ruger has been good to me over the years. Yes, I got it from Tombstonetactical.com PLEASE, DO NOT be fooled by their attractive price. They list items in stock that they do not even have. I placed my order and called for delivery estimate. They literally told me they have to get the gun from the distributor then ship it to me. Shipping took forever. Local gun store did exactly the same thing. It sucks. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:27:41 PM EDT
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Yes, I got it from Tombstonetactical.com PLEASE, DO NOT be fooled by their attractive price. They list items in stock that they do not even have. I placed my order and called for delivery estimate. They literally told me they have to get the gun from the distributor then ship it to me. Shipping took forever. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was this a mail order gun? One nice thing about buying local, gun in hand. Glad to see it was RMA'ed. Ruger has been good to me over the years. Yes, I got it from Tombstonetactical.com PLEASE, DO NOT be fooled by their attractive price. They list items in stock that they do not even have. I placed my order and called for delivery estimate. They literally told me they have to get the gun from the distributor then ship it to me. Shipping took forever. I bought a S&W 629 Vcomp online awhile back that was very dirty when I got it. It was so dirty it looked like it was a used gun although it was advertised as "NEW". Not saying they sold you something used, but that Ruger looks to dirty to me just to have been test fired. |
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Posted: 2/2/2016 11:47:19 AM EDT
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I havent hear anything from Ruger. This is really frustrating.
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Posted: 2/2/2016 10:59:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I havent hear anything from Ruger. This is really frustrating. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 4:58:09 PM EDT
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I can't believe no one mentioned the fine fitting on the ejector plate.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:47:34 AM EDT
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Ruger came back.
I called Tuesday and said, "it's taking too long and I don't even need it if I don't get it by this weekend." They sent it the next day and I got it this morning. They cleaned, refurbished, trimmed the hell out of this gun. The rifling looks as it should be now with very visible lands and grooves. (see pics) I'm beginning to think that the dealer actually played with the gun before shipping out, or somewhere around the middle men: toxins of the Earth. I had to get to work so the pictures were taken at high speed. Please excuse the overall quality of the pics. 
Again, the entire gun was cleaned, re trimmed and most importantly re barreled. I'm very excited to take this to the range tomorrow! But before I end this thread, I would really like to know why the my new gun came in so dirty and bad in the first place. I'm seriously questioning the dealer... Thank you all |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:46:42 PM EDT
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I believe most manufactures function fire the firearm after assembly as part of the QC process and before it goes to packaging. They do not clean them between function testing and before they go into the box. With modern propellant and primers there is no corrosion issues to they don't bother cleaning them. Saves time and money.
ETA: Glad you got your revolver back and fixed. Hopefully is shoot well! Enjoy! |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 2:30:56 PM EDT
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I can't believe no one mentioned the fine fitting on the ejector plate. What's wrong with the ejector plate??!?! |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:39:31 AM EDT
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The original pic doesn't look as bad, maybe bad lighting or an odd angle?
As for ruger qc, I've got a recent super blackhawk that frame looks like it was finished with a bastards file. I've debated calling them, but I've yet to do it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
What's wrong with the ejector plate??!?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't believe no one mentioned the fine fitting on the ejector plate. What's wrong with the ejector plate??!?! |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:35:17 AM EDT
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God, that 2nd pic looks rough. Is that acceptable finish? I'd be pissed. Is that what it is supposed to look like?
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:28:16 AM EDT
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It's brand new still. I sent them an email and am waiting for a response. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does it shoot ? It's brand new still. I sent them an email and am waiting for a response. Didn't you look at it before you bought it? |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:32:18 AM EDT
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God, that 2nd pic looks rough. Is that acceptable finish? I'd be pissed. Is that what it is supposed to look like? That's all normal. They have a brushed finish on the outside and typically as cast/rough machined elsewhere. They're solid, functional guns, not works of art. The guys on the Ruger forums often complain about the silliest of tool/machining/casting marks and Ruger will often address such ridiculousness . I think it's a waste of time.
The rifling being wonky like the OP's gun would bother me. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:49:57 AM EDT
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did they replace the barrel,....or just re-crown it ?
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Posted: 2/5/2016 3:22:00 PM EDT
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Again, the entire gun was cleaned, re trimmed and most importantly re barreled. you missed this |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 4:26:19 PM EDT
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you missed this Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Again, the entire gun was cleaned, re trimmed and most importantly re barreled. you missed this yeah...I'm on a biscuit phone wondering because the crown looks milled further |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:56:38 PM EDT
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That's copper fouling +1 |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:01:46 PM EDT
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Didn't you look at it before you bought it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does it shoot ? It's brand new still. I sent them an email and am waiting for a response. Didn't you look at it before you bought it? Online purchase from Tomebstonetactical.com |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:09:53 PM EDT
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yeah...I'm on a biscuit phone wondering because the crown looks milled further Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Again, the entire gun was cleaned, re trimmed and most importantly re barreled. you missed this yeah...I'm on a biscuit phone wondering because the crown looks milled further You got me thinking for a fat minute. I really don't like that it's milled further than they should like other GP100's but do I have an option at this point? It has to be a new barrel.. I think a definite evidence is the lands and grooves of the rifling. My initial complaint was the two lands of the rifling at the bottom being so smooth. The new barrel has one land at the bottom. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:31:08 PM EDT
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Lol... check this post out...
This guy had the exact same problem. It seems like there are more of these... http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=182664 |
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