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Posted: 5/26/2015 3:50:05 AM EDT
So, I just picked up a 986. Other than having lots of gouges on the swing arm (check out my other thread about the gouges), I am happy with it.

I Was told by the dealer that I can use either moon clips or just load loose rounds. When I try to use the ejector, it will not catch any of the rims of the casings. All the rounds just sit in the cylinder, while the ejector moves freely. Is this normal, or do I have a faulty gun?
Link Posted: 5/26/2015 7:15:44 AM EDT
[#1]
This is normal for a revolver chambered for a rimless cartridge. The whole point of the moon clip is to give the extractor star something to engage.
Link Posted: 5/26/2015 7:24:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Mine is the same way.
Link Posted: 5/26/2015 7:26:17 AM EDT
[#3]
The dealer was part right.  You could shoot it w/o clips. You just can't eject w/o.

I think Smith did make a 9mm revolver once that did eject spent casings, but was designed that way and would not take clips.
Link Posted: 5/26/2015 7:29:17 AM EDT
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The dealer was part right.  You could shoot it w/o clips. You just can't eject w/o.

I think Smith did make a 9mm revolver once that did eject spent casings, but was designed that way and would not take clips.
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Nope. The rimless 9mm fall too far into the cylinder.
At least in mine they do. It seems that headspace on the case
Mouth is cut too deep in the cylinder to work as you described.
Firing pin does not reach primer.
Link Posted: 5/26/2015 11:29:24 AM EDT
[#5]
If chambered properly you should be able to shoot but not extract 9mm in a 9mm revolver when not using moon clips.  The question is why wouldn't you want to use moon clips?
Link Posted: 5/26/2015 12:02:11 PM EDT
[#6]
That should be the same as my 625.
As stated by others, you should be able to shoot them but you will need a pencil or bic pen to eject the spent cases (if not using moon clips).
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 10:13:09 AM EDT
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I just did some measuring on my 986.
Guess what- it's chambered in 9x21.
2 mm deeper chamber than a 9mm para.

I'm taking a guess here but my money says
They chambered it like that for export to Italy.
9mm Para is banned there but IPSC revolver is
Very popular.

In order to shoot it without moon clips you need 9x21 brass.

Fyi, 9x21 uses the same load data as 9mm para.
The COAL is the same. It's similar to 38spl/357mag but
Headspace on the case Mouth rather than the rim.
Link Posted: 5/27/2015 10:52:37 AM EDT
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I just did some measuring on my 986.
Guess what- it's chambered in 9x21.
2 mm deeper chamber than a 9mm para.

I'm taking a guess here but my money says
They chambered it like that for export to Italy.
9mm Para is banned there but IPSC revolver is
Very popular.

In order to shoot it without moon clips you need 9x21 brass.

Fyi, 9x21 uses the same load data as 9mm para.
The COAL is the same. It's similar to 38spl/357mag but
Headspace on the case Mouth rather than the rim.
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Well there you go.  You now have more options, you can use 9x19 or 9x21 brass.  Like running 45GAP in a 625 or 40S&W in a 610.
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