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Posted: 4/19/2015 5:52:55 PM EDT
I've been shopping revolvers lately and have seen a couple nice ones in .45acp. However, this caliber/pistol combo doesn't really grab me. I have 1911's and Glocks if I want to shoot .45, I always considered .38, .357, .44, etc to be the revolver calibers that make the most sense.
Obviously, "Because" is a good enough answer, but are the upsides to this specific chambering that I am missing? Good enough for JM? Thanks |
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Moonclips as already mentioned, simplifies thing if you're a reloader, a lot more factory load choices available in acp. (And I don't even own a .45acp revolver... )
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.45 acp in a revolver is OUTSTANDING !
Hits hard very very manageable recoil almost aims itself The recoil it very smooth 357 and 44 mag is so fast it hits your hand hard .45 acp just rolls back smooth and easy and very little muzzle blast Try one you will see They also hold their value or can be sold at a profit quite quickly |
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I used to not see the use but when I don't have time to reload 45 Colt, I know I can just buy some cheap .45 ACP and blast away with my Ruger SA.
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Welp, you don't have to bend over to getcher brass. Everything feeds, everything functions.
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I have a Smith and Wesson 25 in .45acp. It is easily my favorite handgun I own. Very smooth action, wicked accurate. Just plain fun to shoot.
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As mentioned by esteemed colleagues above, 45ACP was THE go-to caliber for revolver-class bowling pin shoots - almost like cheating.
And a S&W Model 25 in 45ACP is THE most accurate revolver I ever owned or shot. Turkey Shoot have a pistol/revolver class? Guaranteed you are going home with a prize....almost like cheating. Ray |
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It started in ww one ( not two) when the gov was short of 1911's and both smith and colt modified the large frame guns to accept 1/2 moon clips to ease the pistol supply.
Later when bullseye was THE competitive pistol sport and revolvers were still popular you needed a 45 for the 45 phase of the NRA bullseye 2700 course they were popular with revolver guys for this. Modern era action matches saw a resurgence of interest in them with quick full moon clip reloads. Many 45acp fans simply wanted a good revolver without needing another caliber in inventory. |
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As others have already indicated the 45 ACP revolver was born out of necessity during WWI due to a lack of 1911 but wanting a handgun that used the same ammunition.. IMHO it is only relevance today only as a competition revolver and a curiosity for collector and shooters. For any task other than a dwindling few competitions types you might employ a 45ACP revolver there is a better revolver or pistol for that job.
Even it's days as a competitive revolver are waning. USPSA killed the S&W 625's long reign as the best choice for Revolver division last year when they let the 7 and 8 shooters play. IDPA dealt a less fatal blow to the 625 by combining the SSR and ESR divisions together. The 625 shooting 155PF ammo on moonclips is up against 38/357 revolver using 105PF ammo and speed loaders. IDPA does not have enough reload for the 625 to really shine and the old guys shooting IDPA can't handle the power factor. I love my 625, and will probably never sell it but its not getting shot as much recently as it use to. |
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I've been shopping revolvers lately and have seen a couple nice ones in .45acp. However, this caliber/pistol combo doesn't really grab me. I have 1911's and Glocks if I want to shoot .45, I always considered .38, .357, .44, etc to be the revolver calibers that make the most sense. Obviously, "Because" is a good enough answer, but are the upsides to this specific chambering that I am missing? Good enough for JM? Thanks View Quote WW1 we had switched to 45acp but dis not have enough 1911s to issue so colt & smith began producing the 1917 on thier large frames & using 1/2 moon clips to aide loading post war these pistolswere very popular 45autorim eleminates the need for moon clips smith renamed the 1917 the model 25 it isstill popular. |
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They make a great woods gun. Rounds available from shot shell to heavy hard cast depending on what you need. You can also fire 45 GAP out of them during the next ammo shortage.
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Fun, versatile, practical. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15238744811_d41d1fd7a1_b.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EPsKZhoXw View Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17nAeC986HE Bunch more 625 vs 627 videos on my channel along with some other shooting too. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17nAeC986HE Bunch move 625 vs 627 video on my channel along with some other shooting too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fun, versatile, practical. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15238744811_d41d1fd7a1_b.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EPsKZhoXw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17nAeC986HE Bunch move 625 vs 627 video on my channel along with some other shooting too. Cool videos . What loads are you using ? |
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A full size , big bore revolver is reason enough by itself .
44 mag has its uses when the power is needed but for more general shooting uses 45 colt , 44 sp and 45acp all are very usefull . The whole moon clip thing is a plus for reloading and also from saving one the usual stumbling around looking for brass act. I at one time owned a 625 but it had some action issues (not typical for S&W) and I sold it off with full disclosure to a guy who had more time to mess with it . That was 15+ years ago and I have not come across any reasonable deals when I had the cash in hand . I don't really need one but I want one |
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My daughter's boyfriend's mom has heavy barrelled smith and wesson.
Very soft shooting gun. She shoots very well too. |
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Fun, versatile, practical. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15238744811_d41d1fd7a1_b.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EPsKZhoXw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17nAeC986HE Bunch move 625 vs 627 video on my channel along with some other shooting too. Cool videos . What loads are you using ? In the 625 I am running: Bullet: 230gr RN coated lead from IbejiHeads Brass: 45ACP Star Line Powder: 4.2gr Bullseye Primer: Federal large pistol Makes about a 171PF. Ranch Product moon-clips In the 627 I am running: Bullet: 160gr RN coated lead from IbejiHeads Brass: 38 Short Colt Star Line Powder: 3.3gr of Titegroup Primers: Federal small pistol primers. Makes about a 140 PF but the accuracy starts to fall off if I go slower. Revolver Supply 0.025 thick moonclips |
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My 625JM is coming back from the Performance Center after having the Master Spa treatment and chamfering. Can't wait to shoot it again. It's as fun a gun to shoot as anything in the safe. And probably the most accurate handgun I own.
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Today I threw some Pachmayr grippers on my Model 22 and took my sons out to the back pasture with a couple of hundred round federal FMJ's and a couple dozen moon clips. Son #1 (17) was ringing my 8"steel plate at 25 yards pretty regular. Son #2 (10) was hitting about 50% of the time, only handgun he's shot other then his .22 single action. The grippers really change the feel of the gun, the factory service stocks are nowhere near as hand filling.
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Today I threw some Pachmayr grippers on my Model 22 and took my sons out to the back pasture with a couple of hundred round federal FMJ's and a couple dozen moon clips. Son #1 (17) was ringing my 8"steel plate at 25 yards pretty regular. Son #2 (10) was hitting about 50% of the time, only handgun he's shot other then his .22 single action. The grippers really change the feel of the gun, the factory service stocks are nowhere near as hand filling. View Quote I put a set of those on my 625 Mountain Gun in 45ACP, they feel much better than the JM designed grips that mine came with it. What's really noticeable is how they soften up the recoil when using my hotloaded 45 Super loads. With regular ball ammo this gun is a pussy cat to shoot. |
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The main advantage of the .45 ACP revolvers has not been mentioned yet. There are lots of good JHPs out there, suitable for SD.
While the .45 Colt and .44 Special offer similar ballistics, finding them loaded with good, well tested and proven JHPs can be difficult at times. For a couple of decades now most of the research has been going into auto pistol calibers. With a .45 ACP revolver, you can take advantage of this. But yes, for serious purposes, I would prefer one of my 1911s over my 625. Doesn't mean that the 625 is not useful. |
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Fun, versatile, practical. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15238744811_d41d1fd7a1_b.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EPsKZhoXw View Quote Oh my! That's just beautiful! |
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Really want a night guard .45 for a house gun. I am not sure why, it just seems appropriate.
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View Quote Model number on this one? Sorry not too familiar with S&W .45 ACP other than the current 625. This one pictured is exactly what I am looking for. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I'm going to guess a model 25. ETA: The 625PC has a similar barrel profile, just a different style. If stainless is okay and with a less flamboyant set of grips it would be quite nice. http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/zoom_lg/170161_01_lg.jpg Model 25's in 45acp and 625 Mountain Guns can be tough to find and command a premium. So does that PC gun, but at least it's fairly easy to get a hold of. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Model number on this one? Sorry not too familiar with S&W .45 ACP other than the current 625. This one pictured is exactly what I am looking for. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm going to guess a model 25. ETA: The 625PC has a similar barrel profile, just a different style. If stainless is okay and with a less flamboyant set of grips it would be quite nice. http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/zoom_lg/170161_01_lg.jpg Model 25's in 45acp and 625 Mountain Guns can be tough to find and command a premium. So does that PC gun, but at least it's fairly easy to get a hold of. Thank you for the reply. I may end up just going with the 625PC. I do like the styling/barrel profile (minus the grips) of the 625PC but would probably want to have it bead blasted. Not sure why but I love the look of bead blasted revolvers |
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Somewhere on the forum a member had the gold bead front sight from a 625PC mounted on his model 22. Looked awesome. On another forum I saw a model 58 converted to 45acp (long before the 22 was reissued) and a J-frame adjustable sight was inletted into the topstrap. I think it was a Dave Clements gun but my memory is hazy.
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Model number on this one? Sorry not too familiar with S&W .45 ACP other than the current 625. This one pictured is exactly what I am looking for. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Model number on this one? Sorry not too familiar with S&W .45 ACP other than the current 625. This one pictured is exactly what I am looking for. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 25-2 that Karl Sokol shortened the barrel to 4". |
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