Just as an FYI for shooters in the lead free bullet era which is fast approaching:
I found that the 80 grain copper monolith hollow points sold by the C.O.P. company shoot exactly to point of aim in my 4" Model 19, reloaded in .38 Special cases with a healthy dose of Unique. Same reloaded cartridges shoot great in My '94 Winchester, exactly to point of aim, too.
They are comparable in length to generic 9mm 115grain lead core copper jacketed stuff. Their diameter is several thousandths smaller than what we are used to in conventional slugs, but this doesn't seem to hurt the accuracy,
at all. They are weirdly accurate, if somewhat "undersized".
Wish they would send me huge checks for saying good things about their reloading components
The lead free era is almost upon California hunters, and so hunters need to start reviewing their lead free options. Get ahead of the curve instead of playing catch up.