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Posted: 12/10/2014 6:08:40 PM EDT
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In case you'd like to know more in order to final tune which one I want, I do like to shoot heavy loads and my hunting self defense is the 180 grain hard cast and for home defense if all my other guns crap out its 158 Gold Dots.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 6:35:50 PM EDT
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If you end up looking for a shorter barrel 686, opt for the 3" if available over the 2.5".
With the 3" you get better sight radius, better performance, and a full length ejector rod. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:15:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In case you'd like to know more in order to final tune which one I want, I do like to shoot heavy loads and my hunting self defense is the 180 grain hard cast and for home defense if all my other guns crap out its 158 Gold Dots. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x87/heavymetal1182/P1010648_zps09f6c589.jpg Do you handload? Those BB loads are probably overkill for anything with a .357, but I handload my own cast bullets to near the same velocities. The 158 Gold Dots seem to be very good. I bought a few boxes to load, and I hope to test performance on a deer very soon.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:24:51 PM EDT
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Do you handload? Those BB loads are probably overkill for anything with a .357, but I handload my own cast bullets to near the same velocities. The 158 Gold Dots seem to be very good. I bought a few boxes to load, and I hope to test performance on a deer very soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In case you'd like to know more in order to final tune which one I want, I do like to shoot heavy loads and my hunting self defense is the 180 grain hard cast and for home defense if all my other guns crap out its 158 Gold Dots. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x87/heavymetal1182/P1010648_zps09f6c589.jpg Do you handload? Those BB loads are probably overkill for anything with a .357, but I handload my own cast bullets to near the same velocities. The 158 Gold Dots seem to be very good. I bought a few boxes to load, and I hope to test performance on a deer very soon. 
Don't have the room for a reloader's bench now, but in a few years when we get the house we've always wanted, I can start. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:54:11 PM EDT
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Pre-lock Model 27. If you ever find one made in the mid 1950's it is one of the finest revolvers ever. Absolutely. I picked up a model 27-2 a year ago and it instantly became my favorite gun. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:12:34 PM EDT
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Don't have the room for a reloader's bench now, but in a few years when we get the house we've always wanted, I can start. http://www.titanreloading.com/lee-reloading-stand  
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Posted: 12/15/2014 2:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I should reload, but I don't. Don't have the room for a reloader's bench now, but in a few years when we get the house we've always wanted, I can start. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In case you'd like to know more in order to final tune which one I want, I do like to shoot heavy loads and my hunting self defense is the 180 grain hard cast and for home defense if all my other guns crap out its 158 Gold Dots. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x87/heavymetal1182/P1010648_zps09f6c589.jpg Do you handload? Those BB loads are probably overkill for anything with a .357, but I handload my own cast bullets to near the same velocities. The 158 Gold Dots seem to be very good. I bought a few boxes to load, and I hope to test performance on a deer very soon. Don't have the room for a reloader's bench now, but in a few years when we get the house we've always wanted, I can start. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/624416/lee-hand-press-kit
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:20:08 PM EDT
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In case you'd like to know more in order to final tune which one I want, I do like to shoot heavy loads and my hunting self defense is the 180 grain hard cast and for home defense if all my other guns crap out its 158 Gold Dots. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x87/heavymetal1182/P1010648_zps09f6c589.jpg Do you handload? Those BB loads are probably overkill for anything with a .357, but I handload my own cast bullets to near the same velocities. The 158 Gold Dots seem to be very good. I bought a few boxes to load, and I hope to test performance on a deer very soon.
Don't have the room for a reloader's bench now, but in a few years when we get the house we've always wanted, I can start. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/624416/lee-hand-press-kit Not one bad review too, but discontinued. I bet I can find somewhere or someone willing to let it go. Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 4:49:16 PM EDT
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Model 66? I took a look at their site, that is nice. What frame? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to shoot a lot of heavy loads then the L or N frame. The L and N frames weigh about the same. The N is a bit bulkier but really no problem for a holster gun. The older K frame 357 Magnum is really about the right size for the cartridge. The 158 gr loads are just fine in the K. The 125 and lighter can put wear on it faster. S&W has just released a 66-8 version that has a beefed up frame and should be good for the lighter bullets. I would seriously look at this one as the K can be a good CCW too. Since you already have a GP100 there is no real rush to get another 357 Magnum. Look around and you can find a nice S&W 357 Magnum on your budget. Personally, I would go with the new 66-8. I would use it for CCW when I am fishing. They have been catching over 13 foot gators out of Lake Seminole lately. Might go to the M69 L frame in 44 Magnum. I live a block away from the Flint River at the top of the lake. It just dawned on me last night about the new 66. I forgot about it. If I as going to buy new, that would definitely be in the running. Might be kind of hard to choose between the 66 or a 686. They need to bring that one out with a 3 or 2.5" barrel. That would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Sorry that I didn't answer your question earlier. Yeah, it's a K frame. Beefed up to take .357's, better than how they used to make them. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 7:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh. Not one bad review too, but discontinued. I bet I can find somewhere or someone willing to let it go. Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In case you'd like to know more in order to final tune which one I want, I do like to shoot heavy loads and my hunting self defense is the 180 grain hard cast and for home defense if all my other guns crap out its 158 Gold Dots. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x87/heavymetal1182/P1010648_zps09f6c589.jpg Do you handload? Those BB loads are probably overkill for anything with a .357, but I handload my own cast bullets to near the same velocities. The 158 Gold Dots seem to be very good. I bought a few boxes to load, and I hope to test performance on a deer very soon. Don't have the room for a reloader's bench now, but in a few years when we get the house we've always wanted, I can start. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/624416/lee-hand-press-kit Not one bad review too, but discontinued. I bet I can find somewhere or someone willing to let it go. Thanks. I haven't used mine in a while, but it takes up almost no space. In the past, I've used mine for case prep (depriming, belling) while watching TV or something. I can charge cases and load bullets later on my bench with less time spent away from "other things."
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Posted: 12/17/2014 11:05:37 AM EDT
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A good used model 28 "Highway Patrolman" can be had at that price.
A "357" is "the" .357 to have, IMO. Model 27's are nice as well, though prices have skyrocketed as of late, especially on the shorter barrels. Found this one reasonably priced. 
20140912_082849 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr It has a couple extra screw holes, numbered grips and such that people get a little crazy about. 
20140701_092202 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr 
20140701_085651 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr Some are partial to this as well, though most while complaining about cheap modern manufacturing also complain about things being too expensive these days... 
20140701_090045 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The pinned barrel and recessed cylinders are completely unnecessary features that folks are still pissed about being dropped on 357's decades later. 
20140701_085836 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr 
20140701_090711 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The fitted pins sure look nice, though. The recessed cylinder also gives the gun a nice profile but does little else for me. Still, it is the "one" for me. The one I'm buying to carry is a lowly 649. For brand new a 686 or 686+ could be had for ~700+. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 11:38:44 AM EDT
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If we're talking used market there are a LOT of 686s out there, probably one of the most common S&W .357s. About 5 years ago I found an older 686 pre-lock at a local pawn shop. It was beat & scratched to hell but had a good bore and a tight cylinder, walked out with it for $250 cash.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 11:48:04 AM EDT
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A good used model 28 "Highway Patrolman" can be had at that price. A "357" is "the" .357 to have, IMO. Model 27's are nice as well, though prices have skyrocketed as of late, especially on the shorter barrels. Found this one reasonably priced. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/15215801935/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3922/15215801935_04e19eed27_b.jpg[/email] 20140912_082849 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr It has a couple extra screw holes, numbered grips and such that people get a little crazy about. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14548181631/]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14548181631_5a417cc31a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_092202 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14528286686/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14528286686_9da47a580c_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_085651 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr Some are partial to this as well, though most while complaining about cheap modern manufacturing also complain about things being too expensive these days...
[email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14549864194/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/14549864194_1fc587257a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_090045 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The pinned barrel and recessed cylinders are completely unnecessary features that folks are still pissed about being dropped on 357's decades later. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14549864044/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3851/14549864044_584d6b6999_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_085836 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14364914909/]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2940/14364914909_b9ec251a0a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_090711 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The fitted pins sure look nice, though. The recessed cylinder also gives the gun a nice profile but does little else for me. Still, it is the "one" for me. The one I'm buying to carry is a lowly 649. For brand new a 686 or 686+ could be had for ~700+. That is a thing of beauty right there! I can remember back in the 80s there was a pawn shop up the street from where I lived. I went in there weekly even though I wasn't old enough to buy a gun. There always seemed to be a couple of Highway Patrolman models in the display case, and I wanted one badly. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:33:05 PM EDT
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Yeah, it is really beautiful.
Hey Rick, do you mind shooting it without some kind of hand filling on the grip in front? I am debating about getting those factory grips for my Model 19. They are very reasonably priced. I could always get a tyler t grip to put in there, but some have said shipping is spotty on them. I would probably prefer rubber hogues for shooting, but it's a blued gun and I think the wood would look a heck of a lot better. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:48:09 PM EDT
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A good used model 28 "Highway Patrolman" can be had at that price. A "357" is "the" .357 to have, IMO. Model 27's are nice as well, though prices have skyrocketed as of late, especially on the shorter barrels. Found this one reasonably priced. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/15215801935/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3922/15215801935_04e19eed27_b.jpg[/email] 20140912_082849 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr It has a couple extra screw holes, numbered grips and such that people get a little crazy about. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14548181631/]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14548181631_5a417cc31a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_092202 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14528286686/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14528286686_9da47a580c_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_085651 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr Some are partial to this as well, though most while complaining about cheap modern manufacturing also complain about things being too expensive these days...
[email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14549864194/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/14549864194_1fc587257a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_090045 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The pinned barrel and recessed cylinders are completely unnecessary features that folks are still pissed about being dropped on 357's decades later. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14549864044/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3851/14549864044_584d6b6999_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_085836 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14364914909/]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2940/14364914909_b9ec251a0a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_090711 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The fitted pins sure look nice, though. The recessed cylinder also gives the gun a nice profile but does little else for me. Still, it is the "one" for me. The one I'm buying to carry is a lowly 649. For brand new a 686 or 686+ could be had for ~700+. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:48:48 AM EDT
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Yeah, it is really beautiful. Hey Rick, do you mind shooting it without some kind of hand filling on the grip in front? I am debating about getting those factory grips for my Model 19. They are very reasonably priced. I could always get a tyler t grip to put in there, but some have said shipping is spotty on them. I would probably prefer rubber hogues for shooting, but it's a blued gun and I think the wood would look a heck of a lot better. Thanks! Sure. I made a post on my shooter grips in the current grip thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_33/155740_N_Frame_grips_for_DA_shooting.html&page=1#i1681774 That gun normally wears a set of S&W "football" targets. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:31:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A good used model 28 "Highway Patrolman" can be had at that price. A "357" is "the" .357 to have, IMO. Model 27's are nice as well, though prices have skyrocketed as of late, especially on the shorter barrels. Found this one reasonably priced. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/15215801935/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3922/15215801935_04e19eed27_b.jpg[/email] 20140912_082849 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr It has a couple extra screw holes, numbered grips and such that people get a little crazy about. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14548181631/]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14548181631_5a417cc31a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_092202 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14528286686/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14528286686_9da47a580c_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_085651 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr Some are partial to this as well, though most while complaining about cheap modern manufacturing also complain about things being too expensive these days... [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14549864194/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/14549864194_1fc587257a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_090045 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The pinned barrel and recessed cylinders are completely unnecessary features that folks are still pissed about being dropped on 357's decades later. [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14549864044/]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3851/14549864044_584d6b6999_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_085836 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr [email=https://www.flickr.com/photos/38468288@N03/14364914909/]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2940/14364914909_b9ec251a0a_b.jpg[/email] 20140701_090711 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The fitted pins sure look nice, though. The recessed cylinder also gives the gun a nice profile but does little else for me. Still, it is the "one" for me. The one I'm buying to carry is a lowly 649. For brand new a 686 or 686+ could be had for ~700+.  |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:53:30 PM EDT
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So I'm guessing that means you didn't like the regular grips overly much. I'm torn. They are a good price and look good. Or maybe I need to spring for some of the bigger grips too. I forget how much a Tyler T grip is. It still would probably be cheaper to go that route than some of the bigger wood grips.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 5:59:50 PM EDT
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686 is the perfect revolver. A 4" 686 is the perfect revolver |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 6:04:16 PM EDT
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A 5" 686 is the perfect revolver
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Posted: 12/19/2014 8:06:31 PM EDT
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686 |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 10:36:11 PM EDT
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I love the 686, but the 386 XL Hunter may be my favorite:
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Posted: 12/19/2014 10:52:30 PM EDT
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686-6 here 4", I really like it. I wish it didn't have the lock but other than that...totally feel good about it. Shoots great. If I bought another I'd get the 3" model.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:08:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spend more and get a 5" Model 27 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/phatmax/DSC_0097_zpsa52cc84e.jpg This man knows.  |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 5:03:40 AM EDT
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686 Combat Masterpiece
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Posted: 1/4/2015 5:55:25 PM EDT
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It just dawned on me last night about the new 66. I forgot about it. If I as going to buy new, that would definitely be in the running. Might be kind of hard to choose between the 66 or a 686. They need to bring that one out with a 3 or 2.5" barrel. That would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to shoot a lot of heavy loads then the L or N frame. The L and N frames weigh about the same. The N is a bit bulkier but really no problem for a holster gun. The older K frame 357 Magnum is really about the right size for the cartridge. The 158 gr loads are just fine in the K. The 125 and lighter can put wear on it faster. S&W has just released a 66-8 version that has a beefed up frame and should be good for the lighter bullets. I would seriously look at this one as the K can be a good CCW too. Since you already have a GP100 there is no real rush to get another 357 Magnum. Look around and you can find a nice S&W 357 Magnum on your budget. Personally, I would go with the new 66-8. I would use it for CCW when I am fishing. They have been catching over 13 foot gators out of Lake Seminole lately. Might go to the M69 L frame in 44 Magnum. I live a block away from the Flint River at the top of the lake. It just dawned on me last night about the new 66. I forgot about it. If I as going to buy new, that would definitely be in the running. Might be kind of hard to choose between the 66 or a 686. They need to bring that one out with a 3 or 2.5" barrel. That would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. I don't care for the grips on the new 66, but that an easy enough fix, even with the round butt. I wish S&W would bring back the square butt on new revolvers. Having said that, there is still something about the new 66 that isn't the same as the older 66's. I like the 1970's era Smith's and the early L frames. I have two Model-19's (4 inch and 2.5 inch) and two no dash L frames (4 inch 586 and a 681). Most of what I have are K frames (10-2, 14-3, multiple 15's-2/3/4, 18-4, 64-5 and 67 no dash) I'd like to get something in an N frame. |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 10:29:30 PM EDT
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Guy that works for me just sold a Highway Patrolman for $300
Didn't tell me about it. Dave N |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 12:04:06 AM EDT
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My 686-5 4" 7 shot
I did the glass bead job, not factory. 
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Posted: 1/6/2015 12:10:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2015 12:47:04 AM EDT
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My 686-5 4" 7 shot I did the glass bead job, not factory. http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_1.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_2.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_3.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_4.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_5.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_6.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_7.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_8.jpg |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 9:16:55 AM EDT
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My vote is also for a no-lock 581/681/586/686 in the 4" variety or a 5" 27/28. My 681 will be with me for a long time. ***************************** |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 9:21:27 AM EDT
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My 686-5 4" 7 shot I did the glass bead job, not factory. http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_1.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_2.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_3.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_4.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_5.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_6.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_7.jpg http://www.performanceboats.com/gallery/data/500/medium/686_8.jpg Great work. |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 2:36:05 PM EDT
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I don't care for the grips on the new 66, but that an easy enough fix, even with the round butt. I wish S&W would bring back the square butt on new revolvers. Having said that, there is still something about the new 66 that isn't the same as the older 66's. I like the 1970's era Smith's and the early L frames. I have two Model-19's (4 inch and 2.5 inch) and two no dash L frames (4 inch 586 and a 681). Most of what I have are K frames (10-2, 14-3, multiple 15's-2/3/4, 18-4, 64-5 and 67 no dash) I'd like to get something in an N frame. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to shoot a lot of heavy loads then the L or N frame. The L and N frames weigh about the same. The N is a bit bulkier but really no problem for a holster gun. The older K frame 357 Magnum is really about the right size for the cartridge. The 158 gr loads are just fine in the K. The 125 and lighter can put wear on it faster. S&W has just released a 66-8 version that has a beefed up frame and should be good for the lighter bullets. I would seriously look at this one as the K can be a good CCW too. Since you already have a GP100 there is no real rush to get another 357 Magnum. Look around and you can find a nice S&W 357 Magnum on your budget. Personally, I would go with the new 66-8. I would use it for CCW when I am fishing. They have been catching over 13 foot gators out of Lake Seminole lately. Might go to the M69 L frame in 44 Magnum. I live a block away from the Flint River at the top of the lake. It just dawned on me last night about the new 66. I forgot about it. If I as going to buy new, that would definitely be in the running. Might be kind of hard to choose between the 66 or a 686. They need to bring that one out with a 3 or 2.5" barrel. That would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. I don't care for the grips on the new 66, but that an easy enough fix, even with the round butt. I wish S&W would bring back the square butt on new revolvers. Having said that, there is still something about the new 66 that isn't the same as the older 66's. I like the 1970's era Smith's and the early L frames. I have two Model-19's (4 inch and 2.5 inch) and two no dash L frames (4 inch 586 and a 681). Most of what I have are K frames (10-2, 14-3, multiple 15's-2/3/4, 18-4, 64-5 and 67 no dash) I'd like to get something in an N frame. I was fondling my Dad's 66 with a round butt on New Years day, and I liked it better than square. Seemed like it gave a better 2 handed grip with the standard grips. I'm not really sure why though. |
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