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Posted: 7/18/2014 1:20:33 PM EDT
It was my Step Dad's CHP service revolver and I always forget what number it is.  I don't think it's a 17.  Or is that the one I'm thinking of.   Ugh..  I forget all the S&W numbers.  It's a .357 and I think it's a 6" barrel.  But somewhere my brain wants to tell me it's 6-1/2"  Which is probably wrong.  Anyways.....

Link Posted: 7/18/2014 1:22:14 PM EDT
[#1]
open cylinder....it's stamped at the pivot point on the inside

.38spl?  15-2?  

.357:  19-4?
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 1:37:29 PM EDT
[#2]
It looks to me like a 6 1/2" model 27, which is an N-frame, or it could be a model 19 K-frame.

Not a model 15 because the 15 does not have a shrouded ejection rod like yours.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 1:46:56 PM EDT
[#3]
S&W made/makes?? a target/competition .38 special with that type of sights they call a Model 14.  I had a buddy in college that had one.  To this day that gun is the most accurate revolver I've every fired.

If its a .357 magnum, its not a Model 14.  So, if it's a .357 magnum it could be a Model 19.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 1:46:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks like a 19 to me.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 2:10:39 PM EDT
[#5]
It's not a 14, it's a .357, as I stated.  That I know for sure.  

My Step Dad just passed away and I have to figure out what to do with his guns.  My Mom might need to sell some of them because she's going to need the money.  Lots of doctor bills to pay.    But I'm going to try to hang on to what I can, even if I have to dip into my savings.  He's got a few I don't really care about but I think I'm going to try to keep this one in the family.  With either me or my brother.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 2:33:41 PM EDT
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open cylinder....it's stamped at the pivot point on the inside

.38spl?  15-2?  

.357:  19-4?
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It may be old enough to be Pre-Model.    Cannot see a pinned barrel so I am guessing newer than 50-60s era.

Age of the dad could help.   Is he old enough that this gun is from the 50s or it a gun definitely from the 70s-80s?
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 3:38:14 PM EDT
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It may be old enough to be Pre-Model.    Cannot see a pinned barrel so I am guessing newer than 50-60s era.
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The glare makes it hard to see, but I see a pin.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 3:53:25 PM EDT
[#8]
I'd bet my lunch it's a model 19.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 3:54:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Yup, Model19
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 4:06:22 PM EDT
[#10]
I THINK it's pinned and recessed.  But I'm going from memory from a few years ago when I took that picture.   For some reason I thought the number started with a 2, but now I'm not so sure.  Maybe it is a 19.  But the pin, that's at the top of the frame in front of the cylinder and at the back of the barrel?  I think you can actually see it.  I believe he served in the 60's and was out before 70.  So....  I'm pretty sure that gun was bought somewhere in the 60's.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 4:34:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Looks like a 19 to me also. Frame doesn't look beefy enough to be a 27.

The top isn't checkered is it? Dead giveaway for a 27.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 4:47:16 PM EDT
[#12]
Open the cylinder the model number should be stamped inside the yoke cut of the frame if its was made after 1957.
There should be a model # and rev.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 4:50:09 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm going with a 19 (which would be a 6" barrel).  The frame looks too slender to be a 27.  Wonderful revolver in any case!
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 4:52:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Did you state it was a CHP gun? California Highway Patrol?
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 4:56:30 PM EDT
[#15]
My money says 19
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 5:57:59 PM EDT
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Looks like a 19 to me also. Frame doesn't look beefy enough to be a 27.

The top isn't checkered is it? Dead giveaway for a 27.
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Barrel profile is wrong for a 27.   Straight taper of barrel at frame is not correct.   All my 27/28s and 38/44 come up to a larger size at barrel to frame.

Everyone else has probably got it, m19.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 6:30:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Model 19 with Patridge Target Sights.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:00:39 PM EDT
[#18]
looks like a 19 to me.

open her up to see if it's new enough to be marked.

Here's my 1977 era 19-4



Link Posted: 7/18/2014 8:20:09 PM EDT
[#19]
LOOKS LIKE A 19
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 10:08:54 PM EDT
[#20]
Since it is his service revolver from the CHP it's a Model 19.  The grips look to be Fuzzy Farrant grips.  Many CHP and LAPD officers used his grips.  You have a very nice example.  The grips alone are worth some bucks.
Link Posted: 7/18/2014 10:29:41 PM EDT
[#21]
It's a 19
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:00:03 AM EDT
[#22]
As Arisinwind noted above, the California Highway Patrol carried Smith Model 19's.

Looks like a model 19 to me as well.

Nice gun, Patridge sights are so much better than ramps.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:40:41 AM EDT
[#23]
It is a 19.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 11:50:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Looks like it also has a trigger shoe on it.  Nice old school handgun.  As Bill Jordan said of the Model 19, It's everything you need in a revolver and nothing you don't.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:45:14 PM EDT
[#25]
I might get to see it next week.  It is not in my possession right now.  

Thanks guys.  We'll see how good you all are soon.  

Yes, California Highway Patrolman, he was.  I guess he rode a harley.  Supposedly.  Also worked on a steam car for them.  Not sure what happened with that.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 4:51:02 PM EDT
[#26]
Has anyone here guessed a model 19 yet?



Link Posted: 7/24/2014 10:21:01 PM EDT
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Looks like a 19 to me.
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Ditto.  I have one just like it.
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 8:13:12 PM EDT
[#28]
Yep also have the same one.
Link Posted: 8/13/2014 2:48:06 AM EDT
[#29]
Hey, OP, has anyone told you the problem with 19s yet?  Don't run .357 through it on a regular basis. Cracked forcing cones are common.  If you're plinking, stick to .38 Spl.  If you're carrying it for defense or hunting with it, then go hot.
Link Posted: 8/13/2014 8:01:26 AM EDT
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I THINK it's pinned and recessed.  But I'm going from memory from a few years ago when I took that picture.   For some reason I thought the number started with a 2, but now I'm not so sure.  Maybe it is a 19.  But the pin, that's at the top of the frame in front of the cylinder and at the back of the barrel?  I think you can actually see it.  I believe he served in the 60's and was out before 70.  So....  I'm pretty sure that gun was bought somewhere in the 60's.
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If the angle were different we could confirm the recessed part, but it is certainly pinned.

-shooter
Link Posted: 8/13/2014 1:21:07 PM EDT
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Hey, OP, has anyone told you the problem with 19s yet?  Don't run .357 through it on a regular basis. Cracked forcing cones are common.  If you're plinking, stick to .38 Spl.  If you're carrying it for defense or hunting with it, then go hot.
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I did not know that.  I have no problem shooting .38's through it.  I haven't got to see it yet.  My Mom isn't sure what she wants to do with it yet either.  She's taking it slow on figuring out what she wants to get rid of, and what she doesn't.  I think I'd be first in line for the thing, but I'm not quite sure about that either.  So......  Waiting patiently.  

I never heard that about 19's though.  Huh.
Link Posted: 8/13/2014 5:39:31 PM EDT
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Like BobK48 said, open the cylinder, and look inside the frame where the crane/yoke go into the frame.  There will be a number, and sometimes the number is followed by a dash and another number.  The first number is the model number, and the second number (if there is one) is the iteration or sub-model number of the piece.  Each iteration is for either production runs, or because the factory decided to change some small part or manufacturing method on that run.  

For example a 19-2 would mean it is a model 19, second iteration.  A 27, would mean a model 27 first iteration.   A 27-4 would be model 27, fourth iteration.

Some times the serial number, or part of the serial number is also stamped inside there.  I have had revolvers that had the serial number stamped there, and others that didn't have a serial number inside the yoke/crane area.

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