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Posted: 7/5/2014 1:38:28 AM EDT
"economy" version of the SR9:
No LCI (will have an inspection port) Fixed rear sight Fewer slide serrations MSRP is $429 which means it'll sell for around $300-350. For that price I'd buy one. |
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W.
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html View Quote Seeing as how the company just invested megamillions in a new plant in TN (Nashville area?) I seriously doubt that their sales are hurting although handgun sales as a whole might down a bit. The 9E replaces the "P" series and it will compete with the "Sigma". |
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Seeing as how the company just invested megamillions in a new plant in TN (Nashville area?) I seriously doubt that their sales are hurting although handgun sales as a whole might down a bit. The 9E replaces the "P" series and it will compete with the "Sigma". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html Seeing as how the company just invested megamillions in a new plant in TN (Nashville area?) I seriously doubt that their sales are hurting although handgun sales as a whole might down a bit. The 9E replaces the "P" series and it will compete with the "Sigma". I didn't mean Ruger sales as a whole, just the SR9. I rarely see anyone suggest the SR9 when someone asks about what type of 9mm they should get. I go to 7 different gun shops where the SR9 is far below in sales when compared to Glock, S&W, XD/M/S, etc. This is what I see online and in person, but someone may have a shop where 50% of their sales are SR9s. I honestly think this will hurt the SR9 sales even more so since most don't want or need an LCI, adjustable rear sight or more slide serrations. At least Ruger brought back a less expensive option. |
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I kind of like the look over the SR9. I wonder how teardown and cleaning is, was one reason I went to an XDM.
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The biggest improvement is the normal size dovetail for the rear sight. This will mean being able to by a front and rear tritium sight at half the price that most sight makers are charging for the SR9. If they sell for $350.00 I would definitely buy another.
The only gripe i have with the SR9 is the long trigger reset, despite that mine shoots straight at 25 yards. Groups are consistent regardless of the round fired and are more than acceptable at any distance for self-defense. The black nitride coating is excellent and resists rust- reminds me a little of Beretta's Bruniton finish. Would have been nice if they kept the slide serrations and dumped the magazine disconnect along with the LCI. |
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Teardown and cleaning is easy. I clean my SR9 mostly with a microfiber cloth and a nylon bristled brush for the bore followed be a few patches. With Slip 2000 Gun Lube everything just wipes off. The Stainless barrel is awesome and as far as I can see the case is fully supported in the chamber. Unlike a Glock you can shoot any ammo through the SR9 and the ergonomics for me are far superior to the SA XD Series.
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What the trigger pull on them? The S&W Sigma is horrendous, hopefully this is better.
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Teardown and cleaning is easy. I clean my SR9 mostly with a microfiber cloth and a nylon bristled brush for the bore followed be a few patches. With Slip 2000 Gun Lube everything just wipes off. The Stainless barrel is awesome and as far as I can see the case is fully supported in the chamber. Unlike a Glock you can shoot any ammo through the SR9 and the ergonomics for me are far superior to the SA XD Series. View Quote Interesting, while I didn't see an actual teardown, the gun shop in my area poo poo'd me on it stating it was a horrible teardown. Think I will hit Gander where I have a friend working to see just what the real score is. My XDM is a hungery bastard that will also eat what ever I toss in it's mag, groups tight at 25 as well. Would like a smaller sized to carry that still has a full grip. |
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"Economy" version of the SR9? How much more economy can it get?
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Reducing the slide serrations actually saves a ton of money in milling time.
Other ways they are saving money not discussed above: Cheaper finish. Black oxide instead of nitride. Ships in cardboard, not a plastic case Comes with only one magazine, and no other tools I suppose it hits a price point for the budget conscious buyer. |
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"economy" version of the SR9: No LCI (will have an inspection port) Fixed rear sight Fewer slide serrations MSRP is $429 which means it'll sell for around $300-350. For that price I'd buy one. View Quote BTW the rear sights aren't fixed, the dovetail is just cut much smaller. Again, time saved on the milling machine = $$. |
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Its sad that I think this "budget pistol" might be better than the SR9 in my opinion. Smaller dovetail cuts aren't a bad thing, especially if it fits Novak sights. The serrations being bigger doesn't bother me at all. Also the removal of the LCI is a huge plus. Its too bad they didnt delete any of the safeties to save a few bucks :P
As for the box, who actually keeps these things? The one mag is a downside however... But they only run about $33 or so. Say you grab this for $325 or so and add an extra magazine. $358 S9E VS SR9 $370 at (Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore.) Is this really even a deal? I've always thought the base price of the SR9 was pretty low already. |
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Reducing the slide serrations actually saves a ton of money in milling time. Other ways they are saving money not discussed above: Cheaper finish. Black oxide instead of nitride. Ships in cardboard, not a plastic case Comes with only one magazine, and no other tools I suppose it hits a price point for the budget conscious buyer. View Quote Hell, the last two Rugers I've purchased have been in cardboard. A SR1911 and a SR22 pistol. |
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What the trigger pull on them? The S&W Sigma is horrendous, hopefully this is better. View Quote The stock trigger beats just about anything short of a Glock, HK, or Sig in other words pistols costing twice as much. I got the smooth it kit #4, heavy striker spring, and a stainless captured guide rod from Galloway Precision and my SR9 rocks. As I said earlier in this thread the only thing I don't like is the longer trigger reset, but that's coming from a Glock and 1911 fan. The Novak 3 dot sights for the SR9 are awesome. The pistol shoots consistent self defense type groups even with the longer reset. The SR9 is a self defense piece not a target pistol. |
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html IMO, this puts it solidly into the category of "toy" pistol. Your opinion may vary... OPERATION OF MAGAZINE DISCONNECT Your RUGER ® SR-SERIES pistol is equipped with a magazine disconnect. This device prevents firing if the magazine is removed from the pistol. You will not be able to use your SR-SERIES pistol as a single loader (unless you place one cartridge in the magazine and insert it into the pistol) or to fire the pistol with the magazine out of the pistol. |
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Now they just need to get rid of the manual safety and magazine disconnect and the gun would probably get knocked down another 25 bucks or so. Make the design more simple and it becomes more affordable.
I do not know if it has an internal lock that you need a key, but ditch that too. |
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"economy" version of the SR9: No LCI (will have an inspection port) Fixed rear sight Fewer slide serrations MSRP is $429 which means it'll sell for around $300-350. For that price I'd buy one. View Quote Be a great glove box gun |
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"economy" version of the SR9: No LCI (will have an inspection port) Fixed rear sight Fewer slide serrations MSRP is $429 which means it'll sell for around $300-350. For that price I'd buy one. Be a great stolen gun gun FIFY |
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IMO, this puts it solidly into the category of "toy" pistol. Your opinion may vary... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html IMO, this puts it solidly into the category of "toy" pistol. Your opinion may vary... OPERATION OF MAGAZINE DISCONNECT Your RUGER ® SR-SERIES pistol is equipped with a magazine disconnect. This device prevents firing if the magazine is removed from the pistol. You will not be able to use your SR-SERIES pistol as a single loader (unless you place one cartridge in the magazine and insert it into the pistol) or to fire the pistol with the magazine out of the pistol. It puts it solidly in the category of "sock drawer pistol" that thousands of people will buy, never practice with, and just keep it for decades as a. "Just in case" gun. Ruger does their demographics homework. Most of these 9E's will never see a range more than once. |
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It puts it solidly in the category of "sock drawer pistol" that thousands of people will buy, never practice with, and just keep it for decades as a. "Just in case" gun. Ruger does their demographics homework. Most of these 9E's will never see a range more than once. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html IMO, this puts it solidly into the category of "toy" pistol. Your opinion may vary... OPERATION OF MAGAZINE DISCONNECT Your RUGER ® SR-SERIES pistol is equipped with a magazine disconnect. This device prevents firing if the magazine is removed from the pistol. You will not be able to use your SR-SERIES pistol as a single loader (unless you place one cartridge in the magazine and insert it into the pistol) or to fire the pistol with the magazine out of the pistol. It puts it solidly in the category of "sock drawer pistol" that thousands of people will buy, never practice with, and just keep it for decades as a. "Just in case" gun. Ruger does their demographics homework. Most of these 9E's will never see a range more than once. I agree with matthardcore's take on the intendend demographic. I've handled several SR variants, and they seemed pretty well put together for the money. I know several people who own them, shoot them regularly, and have had zero issues. What has kept me from picking one up is that with a little searching I've managed to pick up used Glocks or M&P's at prices competitive with NIB SR series guns. As for the mag disconnect, I believe this is relatively easily removed from the handgun. I know it was no problem to remove the disconnect from my Mark III. If I saw a used SR (or eventually a 9E) for sale at a good price, I would snap it up. A little time and a few upgrade parts later I'd have a reliable, reasonably accurate handgun. |
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I agree with matthardcore's take on the intendend demographic. I've handled several SR variants, and they seemed pretty well put together for the money. I know several people who own them, shoot them regularly, and have had zero issues. What has kept me from picking one up is that with a little searching I've managed to pick up used Glocks or M&P's at prices competitive with NIB SR series guns. As for the mag disconnect, I believe this is relatively easily removed from the handgun. I know it was no problem to remove the disconnect from my Mark III. If I saw a used SR (or eventually a 9E) for sale at a good price, I would snap it up. A little time and a few upgrade parts later I'd have a reliable, reasonably accurate handgun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html IMO, this puts it solidly into the category of "toy" pistol. Your opinion may vary... OPERATION OF MAGAZINE DISCONNECT Your RUGER ® SR-SERIES pistol is equipped with a magazine disconnect. This device prevents firing if the magazine is removed from the pistol. You will not be able to use your SR-SERIES pistol as a single loader (unless you place one cartridge in the magazine and insert it into the pistol) or to fire the pistol with the magazine out of the pistol. It puts it solidly in the category of "sock drawer pistol" that thousands of people will buy, never practice with, and just keep it for decades as a. "Just in case" gun. Ruger does their demographics homework. Most of these 9E's will never see a range more than once. I agree with matthardcore's take on the intendend demographic. I've handled several SR variants, and they seemed pretty well put together for the money. I know several people who own them, shoot them regularly, and have had zero issues. What has kept me from picking one up is that with a little searching I've managed to pick up used Glocks or M&P's at prices competitive with NIB SR series guns. As for the mag disconnect, I believe this is relatively easily removed from the handgun. I know it was no problem to remove the disconnect from my Mark III. If I saw a used SR (or eventually a 9E) for sale at a good price, I would snap it up. A little time and a few upgrade parts later I'd have a reliable, reasonably accurate handgun. Remove the slide backplate, pull the firing pin assembly, and the mag disconnect drops into your hand. Takes 30 seconds, tops. |
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Remove the slide backplate, pull the firing pin assembly, and the mag disconnect drops into your hand. Takes 30 seconds, tops. Blocks front/back movement of the firing pin. |
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Teardown and cleaning is easy. I clean my SR9 mostly with a microfiber cloth and a nylon bristled brush for the bore followed be a few patches. With Slip 2000 Gun Lube everything just wipes off. The Stainless barrel is awesome and as far as I can see the case is fully supported in the chamber. Unlike a Glock you can shoot any ammo through the SR9 and the ergonomics for me are far superior to the SA XD Series. View Quote LOL |
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Picked up an SR9 5 months ago, then Ruger drops the "E" on the market with a C note discount. Figures..
I got my SR9 via slickguns with shipping and FFL transfer for $378. The E could easily go for less than $300 after it becomes more available. So I'm wondering, what's next? LC9 E with a sub $200 price tag? That's a prime candidate. |
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Looks like they are hitting the market - kygun as them for $332
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I'm assuming the Ghost rocket connector is compatible with the 9E?
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Teardown and cleaning is easy. I clean my SR9 mostly with a microfiber cloth and a nylon bristled brush for the bore followed be a few patches. With Slip 2000 Gun Lube everything just wipes off. The Stainless barrel is awesome and as far as I can see the case is fully supported in the chamber. Unlike a Glock you can shoot any ammo through the SR9 and the ergonomics for me are far superior to the SA XD Series. LOL This statement comes directly from the Ruger website FAQ Section: http://www.ruger.com/service/FAQs.html#Q53 What type of ammunition should I use in my Ruger 9mm pistol? The Ruger 9mm pistols are chambered for the 9x19mm NATO Parabellum (9mm Luger) cartridge, compatible with the U.S. and foreign military or commercial 9x19mm loads manufactured in accordance with NATO, U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards, including high-velocity, subsonic, tracer, hollow point, ammunition loaded in aluminum, steel, or brass cartridge cases, +P and +P+ ammunition. Note: The LC9™ is not rated for +P+ ammunition. |
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I fondled a 9E today.
The trigger is impressive. Light and crisp with a much shorter takeup than a Glock. I like it! I also doesn't seem to have a magazine disconnect. I racked the slide, dropped the mag and was able to pull the trigger end felt the firing pin go forward. The only thing I was not impressed with was the dealer's asking price: $370. C'mon. ETA: Two of my buddies also checked out the 9E and they agreed the trigger was very nice. |
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Don't know if the 9E has a mag disconnect or no. But on the SR series it DOES NOT prevent you from pulling the trigger. It works by blocking the striker from going forward enough to hit the primer.
Ruger recommends that you DO NOT dry fire the gun without an empty mag in the weapon as the damage to the striker could occurs by creating a burr on the striker. On the SR, when you remove the striker to clean the striker channel the disconnect will just fall out. No extra parts or modifications needed like the Mark III to remove the mag disconnect. |
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Local Sportsman's Warehouse finally got a 9E in stock. Their price is $349
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Dang it, gun genie has one dealer offering it to me for $306 OTD. If I had an income right now, I'd be buying it.
I'm on unpaid leave from work right now recovering from back surgery. |
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I fondled a 9E at a gunshow the other day - I had never seen or heard of one before - and I was quite impressed. Ruger may very well may end up beating Glock and the S&W M&P at their own game.
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Teardown and cleaning is easy. I clean my SR9 mostly with a microfiber cloth and a nylon bristled brush for the bore followed be a few patches. With Slip 2000 Gun Lube everything just wipes off. The Stainless barrel is awesome and as far as I can see the case is fully supported in the chamber. Unlike a Glock you can shoot any ammo through the SR9 and the ergonomics for me are far superior to the SA XD Series. LOL He means lead bullets - which you're not supposed to shoot in a Glock. |
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I fondled a 9E today. The trigger is impressive. Light and crisp with a much shorter takeup than a Glock. I like it! I also doesn't seem to have a magazine disconnect. I racked the slide, dropped the mag and was able to pull the trigger end felt the firing pin go forward. The only thing I was not impressed with was the dealer's asking price: $370. C'mon. ETA: Two of my buddies also checked out the 9E and they agreed the trigger was very nice. View Quote These guns still have the magazine disconnect - it's just that the way it works still allows the gun to be dry fired. |
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Held one today. Felt fantastic, and trigger was great. I think it is a better SR9 IMO for less money.
Great truck gun, or hell, someone take it to a high round class, post an AAR and shock the hive!!!
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Doc's Gun Exchange (Florence, SC) was selling 9E's at today's fun show for $330. I believe they offered a 3% discount if paying cash.
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Hmmm. May make me reconsider picking up a SD9VE as a "cheap" new 9mm pistol.
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Handled one and it seems nice for the money, but when I can get a very nice used Glock for $400, why bother.
As someone mentioned above, Ruger does know its market for semi autos. Too afraid to buy a used gun for the sock drawer. |
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I wonder if their sales are hurting. I really don't see the SR9 suggested when people are looking for a new 9mm pistol. No LCI and a fixed rear sight is a good change IMO. The slide serrations look fine as well. Maybe they're trying to compete with the SD9VE from S&W. http://www.ruger.com/products/9E/models.html View Quote I know that when they went to striker fired on just about all centerfire pistols, they lost me and quite a few others. |
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