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Posted: 3/26/2016 5:14:57 AM EDT
Brought home a brand new HK VP9 LE package today.

When I pull the slide back 1.5-2 inches and let it go, the slide doesn't go all the way forward. It stops about 1/4" from being closed. If I fling the gun around then it snaps the rest of the way forward.

I played with another one (non LE model) at the shop and didn't notice this happening.

This is my first HK so looking for comments and wondering if anyone else had this happen?
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 11:56:50 AM EDT
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Shoot it and then see what happens. I'm sure it'll be fine but the way you are doing it is not gonna be the same as shooting.
Link Posted: 3/26/2016 8:31:55 PM EDT
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The slide it designed to properly cycle fully from the rear all the way forward to property seat into battery.  Hence the phrase "don't ride the slid forward"  because you can interfere with the inertia of the slide.   Please don't "fling" a gun around, it could be unhealthy.     If you actually go shooting I bet is does just fine.  David
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 2:18:09 AM EDT
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^^ What he said.
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 11:52:47 PM EDT
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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.
Link Posted: 3/28/2016 1:11:30 AM EDT
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That last ~1/4 inch is a lot of additional friction as that's when the barrel engages the locking block and has to slide up into it's locked position in the slide.  Not saying that there is no problem, but there is a definite change at that point on a typical locked breech pistol.
Link Posted: 3/29/2016 8:33:52 PM EDT
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Have you oiled it yet?
Link Posted: 3/29/2016 8:46:38 PM EDT
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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.
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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.
Link Posted: 3/29/2016 9:37:09 PM EDT
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I have had several poly frame 9's that do this brand new, a VP9, M&P9 and Ruger SR9.  Go shoot it.  Let the parts wear in and it will be fine.
Link Posted: 3/30/2016 6:45:35 PM EDT
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Brought home a brand new HK VP9 LE package today.

When I pull the slide back 1.5-2 inches and let it go, the slide doesn't go all the way forward. It stops about 1/4" from being closed. If I fling the gun around then it snaps the rest of the way forward.

I played with another one (non LE model) at the shop and didn't notice this happening.

This is my first HK so looking for comments and wondering if anyone else had this happen?
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I can make my VP9 do exactly what you are describing.  It gets shot a lot and has had zero failures of any kind.  IMO it's fine, go shoot.
Link Posted: 3/31/2016 5:58:13 AM EDT
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That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.
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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.


Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery


Link Posted: 3/31/2016 6:56:44 AM EDT
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Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery


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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.


Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery




So you identified the issue as the recoil spring... But you want to play 20 questions apparently. Do they appear any different?
Link Posted: 3/31/2016 2:33:21 PM EDT
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So you identified the issue as the recoil spring... But you want to play 20 questions apparently. Do they appear any different?
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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.


Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery




So you identified the issue as the recoil spring... But you want to play 20 questions apparently. Do they appear any different?



No the recoil springs look the same. I guess one of them is softer. Perhaps HK got a lot of bad springs. I dont know.
Link Posted: 3/31/2016 3:21:21 PM EDT
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The spring is a warranty item. If you're that worried about it give them a call. I had actually worn mine after 16,000 rounds and called them. Obviously they don't hate us and we don't suck because they overnighted the part on their dime and told me to file 13 the old one. No questions asked either other than the serial number.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 12:11:11 PM EDT
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Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery


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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.


Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery




So how did it work at the range, shooting bullets?
Link Posted: 4/7/2016 11:50:27 PM EDT
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So how did it work at the range, shooting bullets?
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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.


Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery




So how did it work at the range, shooting bullets?

That's not important.
Link Posted: 4/12/2016 2:46:34 PM EDT
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Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery


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I've never even loaded the gun.

I checked out another VP9 today and it doesn't have the issue. The slide slams forward no matter how little it is pulled back.

That's not an issue, you aren't using it correctly.


Then why do two identical VP9s function differently?

If there is no issue why can I recreate the problem when I swap my recoil spring into the second VP9 that doesnt have the problem?

Even simply holstering would cause the gun to go out of battery




Sounds like you got a nice tight fitting barrel that should have exceptionally tight lockup once you fire it!
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 9:49:23 PM EDT
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Clean it, oil it, and shoot it.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 10:55:45 PM EDT
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Brand new VP9. I can report this issue, in fact came here to post for help but saw there was a thread.

The slide is really loose when in battery. I can push the slide back 1/4 inch with 0 force. 6/10 times the slide jams at the last 1/4 inch.

Not riding the slide either.

Seems like a very out of spec recoil spring. There is no friction at the last remaining travel of the slide.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 1:07:37 PM EDT
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Does it cause malfunctions?  I have to place my thumb over the back of the slide on my VP9 when I holster it or it will go out of battery.  I've had zero malfunctions after a few thousand rounds so as far as I can tell it's normal.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:15:50 PM EDT
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Brand new VP9. I can report this issue, in fact came here to post for help but saw there was a thread.

The slide is really loose when in battery. I can push the slide back 1/4 inch with 0 force. 6/10 times the slide jams at the last 1/4 inch.

Not riding the slide either.

Seems like a very out of spec recoil spring. There is no friction at the last remaining travel of the slide.
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You guys need to stop being paranoid with new pistols and shoot the damn things .
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 12:53:22 PM EDT
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I don't feel like I 'got lucky' because my new VP9 never did and does not do that.
It's certainly not 'normal'.

I bought mine with the intention to compete with it, which I have.  Had I taken it out of the box, cleaned it, lubed it, worked the action a few hundred times before hitting the range with it for the first time, and the slide didn't battery... it would have gone right back in the case and back to H&K.
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 2:15:20 PM EDT
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I don't feel like I 'got lucky' because my new VP9 never did and does not do that.It's certainly not 'normal'.
I bought mine with the intention to compete with it, which I have.  Had I taken it out of the box, cleaned it, lubed it, worked the action a few hundred times before hitting the range with it for the first time, and the slide didn't battery... it would have gone right back in the case and back to H&K.
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Failure to RTB while easing the slide forward fiddling around at home is different than failure to RTB while shooting.
Link Posted: 5/1/2016 11:36:17 AM EDT
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You guys need to stop being paranoid with new pistols and shoot the damn things .
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Brand new VP9. I can report this issue, in fact came here to post for help but saw there was a thread.

The slide is really loose when in battery. I can push the slide back 1/4 inch with 0 force. 6/10 times the slide jams at the last 1/4 inch.

Not riding the slide either.

Seems like a very out of spec recoil spring. There is no friction at the last remaining travel of the slide.




You guys need to stop being paranoid with new pistols and shoot the damn things .

This. Mine did this too. After one mag, it has never done it since.
Quit being bitches and go shoot the pistol.
Link Posted: 5/2/2016 2:35:56 PM EDT
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This. Mine did this too. After one mag, it has never done it since.
Quit being bitches and go shoot the pistol.
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Brand new VP9. I can report this issue, in fact came here to post for help but saw there was a thread.

The slide is really loose when in battery. I can push the slide back 1/4 inch with 0 force. 6/10 times the slide jams at the last 1/4 inch.

Not riding the slide either.

Seems like a very out of spec recoil spring. There is no friction at the last remaining travel of the slide.




You guys need to stop being paranoid with new pistols and shoot the damn things .

This. Mine did this too. After one mag, it has never done it since.
Quit being bitches and go shoot the pistol.


I say don't shoot it.  Help keep the EE full of nice guns that have hardly been used :P
Link Posted: 5/6/2016 12:03:19 AM EDT
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I say don't shoot it.  Help keep the EE full of nice guns that have hardly been used :P
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Brand new VP9. I can report this issue, in fact came here to post for help but saw there was a thread.

The slide is really loose when in battery. I can push the slide back 1/4 inch with 0 force. 6/10 times the slide jams at the last 1/4 inch.

Not riding the slide either.

Seems like a very out of spec recoil spring. There is no friction at the last remaining travel of the slide.




You guys need to stop being paranoid with new pistols and shoot the damn things .

This. Mine did this too. After one mag, it has never done it since.
Quit being bitches and go shoot the pistol.


I say don't shoot it.  Help keep the EE full of nice guns that have hardly been used :P
I like the the way you think
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