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Posted: 2/4/2015 1:11:19 PM EDT
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I went through a P7 M8 phase a few years ago. Beautiful pistol, clever and unique design, very accurate. On the other hand, the factory finish was very thin indeed, it got hot as hell, but above all, it was very heavy for a single-stack 9mm. I had one redone in NP3, Nils grips, Milt Sparks holster - the whole routine - and sold it just because it was so damn heavy and tough to carry (for me). Yep, I keep mine because it is a unique and clever design but I don't carry it or use it for anything practical. Plus mags are very expensive so I haven't brought myself to buy more. |
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Posted: 2/4/2015 5:02:15 PM EDT
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Yep, I keep mine because it is a unique and clever design but I don't carry it or use it for anything practical. Plus mags are very expensive so I haven't brought myself to buy more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went through a P7 M8 phase a few years ago. Beautiful pistol, clever and unique design, very accurate. On the other hand, the factory finish was very thin indeed, it got hot as hell, but above all, it was very heavy for a single-stack 9mm. I had one redone in NP3, Nils grips, Milt Sparks holster - the whole routine - and sold it just because it was so damn heavy and tough to carry (for me). Yep, I keep mine because it is a unique and clever design but I don't carry it or use it for anything practical. Plus mags are very expensive so I haven't brought myself to buy more. I just bought a second PSP so now I have 4 mags and 2 pistols  Still want to find a M13 one day.
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Posted: 2/8/2015 10:30:27 PM EDT
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My newest acquisition
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Posted: 2/8/2015 11:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My newest acquisition http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150208_175258_zps1aeae1d5.jpg |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 11:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice grips Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My newest acquisition http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150208_175258_zps1aeae1d5.jpg Thanks Jordan. |
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Posted: 2/9/2015 6:08:06 AM EDT
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I would do terrible, terrible things for a P7M13 to go with my PSP.
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Posted: 2/9/2015 9:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would do terrible, terrible things for a P7M13 to go with my PSP. You're not the only one |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:02:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2015 12:34:44 PM EDT
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Had a P7M8 eons ago, early 80's. Nice pistol, accurate, reliable, always got attention at the range. At that time mags and leather were virtually impossible to find and stupid money when you did stumble across anything. I eventually sold it, for a tidy profit, and I can't say I miss it. Rather heavy for a single stack nine. I have never understood the price on them. They really aren't that special. Different, yes. But when it comes to putting bullets down range they really didn't do that any better than other stuff selling for a fraction of the price.
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Posted: 4/15/2015 12:00:48 AM EDT
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I have a p7m13 with 4 or 5 mags stored in my safe deposit box. I haven't shot it in years. It was a great shooter but I'm too lazy to carry it due to the weight. I will probably have to sell it next year to help pay for my sons college tuition. Now I'm thinking maybe I should pull it out and shoot it.
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Posted: 5/17/2015 2:17:30 PM EDT
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I swear its the most accurate handgun I own, and one of my favorites to shoot. Mags are expensive though.  It came with 5 when I got it and I bought another 5 later. Not a cheap investment in mags alone.
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Posted: 5/18/2015 5:14:11 AM EDT
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I have a p7m13 with 4 or 5 mags stored in my safe deposit box. I haven't shot it in years. It was a great shooter but I'm too lazy to carry it due to the weight. I will probably have to sell it next year to help pay for my sons college tuition. Now I'm thinking maybe I should pull it out and shoot it. go on.... 
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Posted: 5/18/2015 5:36:28 AM EDT
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Initially, the A grades were $600 and then went up to $650. B grade was $550, C grade right around $500. I'm one of the idiots kicking himself. I just thought they'd be around for awhile. 
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Hard to find nowadays. A really neat pistol in its design. Didn't sell well to US LE due to cost. Lots of folks kicking themselves for not buying several of the trade-ins when they were available in three different grades (5-6 years or so ago). Initially, the A grades were $600 and then went up to $650. B grade was $550, C grade right around $500. I'm one of the idiots kicking himself. I just thought they'd be around for awhile.
I've got a nice M8, but a b grade shooter would be great to have. I think I only paid $550 for my grade A. It looked absolutely brand new, no holster wear at all. I'd be surprised if it was ever issued or carried. I haven't shot it much, and it's still pristine. |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 7:36:49 AM EDT
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I think I only paid $550 for my grade A. It looked absolutely brand new, no holster wear at all. I'd be surprised if it was ever issued or carried. I haven't shot it much, and it's still pristine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hard to find nowadays. A really neat pistol in its design. Didn't sell well to US LE due to cost. Lots of folks kicking themselves for not buying several of the trade-ins when they were available in three different grades (5-6 years or so ago). Initially, the A grades were $600 and then went up to $650. B grade was $550, C grade right around $500. I'm one of the idiots kicking himself. I just thought they'd be around for awhile.
I've got a nice M8, but a b grade shooter would be great to have. I think I only paid $550 for my grade A. It looked absolutely brand new, no holster wear at all. I'd be surprised if it was ever issued or carried. I haven't shot it much, and it's still pristine. Go ahead, twist the knife a bit more. You probably kick puppies for fun don't you? |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 5:56:23 PM EDT
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I have never understood the price on them. They really aren't that special. Different, yes. But when it comes to putting bullets down range they really didn't do that any better than other stuff selling for a fraction of the price. Then you weren't shooting yours right. They're amazingly accurate with a good shooter behind them. |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 5:57:59 PM EDT
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Go ahead, twist the knife a bit more. You probably kick puppies for fun don't you? Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? 
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Posted: 5/25/2015 11:25:52 PM EDT
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Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go ahead, twist the knife a bit more. You probably kick puppies for fun don't you? Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? There is something wrong with an unfired gun. Like having a muscle car that you have never cranked. |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 2:21:57 PM EDT
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There is something wrong with an unfired gun. Like having a muscle car that you have never cranked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go ahead, twist the knife a bit more. You probably kick puppies for fun don't you? Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? There is something wrong with an unfired gun. Like having a muscle car that you have never cranked. I agree. Bob needs to sell me that P7M13 for what he's got in it. Depreciation for being unfired and for being a cock for telling me about it. |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 8:40:09 PM EDT
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There is something wrong with an unfired gun. Like having a muscle car that you have never cranked. Normally, yes. But do you have ANY idea how hard it was/is to find one UNfired, in the box? 
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Posted: 5/30/2015 2:01:50 AM EDT
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Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go ahead, twist the knife a bit more. You probably kick puppies for fun don't you? Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? Sounds like a decent deal for an M13. I've done better on a NIB M13 ,but only once. |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 8:28:16 AM EDT
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Sounds like a decent deal for an M13. I've done better on a NIB M13 ,but only once. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go ahead, twist the knife a bit more. You probably kick puppies for fun don't you? Should I tell you about my UNfired P7M13 that I paid only $1300 for & have 5 mags for? Sounds like a decent deal for an M13. I've done better on a NIB M13 ,but only once. You just don't see them around much. Especially around my area. I keep hoping some redneck tries to sell one, but I've had no luck. I traded two knives and $200 for a P7M8, but that was years ago and I had to drive an hour to a gunshow. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 3:58:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2015 5:37:37 PM EDT
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Absolutely love my P7s, M8 and M13 (Trip satin chrome).
Bought the M8 new and the M13 at an estate sale of a gun dealer. Alessi and DelFati holsters and they are perfect. 
The test target that came with the M13. 
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Posted: 9/4/2015 10:29:01 PM EDT
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Absolutely love my P7s, M8 and M13 (Trip satin chrome). Bought the M8 new and the M13 at an estate sale of a gun dealer. Alessi and DelFati holsters and they are perfect. This man has style. I have a P7. I agree with the sentiment that it's kind of a novelty. It is a really cool gun, and I wanted one from the first time I saw Die Hard. But, I am a shooter, not a collector, so I am constantly tempted to sell it for something more practical. |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 1:52:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This man has style. I have a P7. I agree with the sentiment that it's kind of a novelty. It is a really cool gun, and I wanted one from the first time I saw Die Hard. But, I am a shooter, not a collector, so I am constantly tempted to sell it for something more practical. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Absolutely love my P7s, M8 and M13 (Trip satin chrome). Bought the M8 new and the M13 at an estate sale of a gun dealer. Alessi and DelFati holsters and they are perfect. This man has style. I have a P7. I agree with the sentiment that it's kind of a novelty. It is a really cool gun, and I wanted one from the first time I saw Die Hard. But, I am a shooter, not a collector, so I am constantly tempted to sell it for something more practical. ETA typo |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 5:19:38 PM EDT
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Not planning on selling my p7 any time soon. Seems like a better investment than stocks these days.
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Posted: 9/8/2015 2:25:29 PM EDT
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Then you weren't shooting yours right. They're amazingly accurate with a good shooter behind them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have never understood the price on them. They really aren't that special. Different, yes. But when it comes to putting bullets down range they really didn't do that any better than other stuff selling for a fraction of the price. Then you weren't shooting yours right. They're amazingly accurate with a good shooter behind them. I was thinking exactly the same thing. I carried my HK P7M13 on duty for several years before they changed our firearms policy and went to a single pistol-HK USP LEM. My quarterly firearms qualification scores were consistently 97%. The fixed barrel made for incredible accuracy. The combination of the squeeze cocker grip and the trigger finger activated magazine release made for combat magazine reloads that were unmatched for speed by any of the conventionally designed firearms. When we switched to the HK USP LEM .40, my scores deteriorated down to averages of 90%. This new HK polymer pistol had a similar trigger finger magazine release, but, it was inferior because instead of a flat metal piece, it was a plastic ball shaped button that was more difficult (stiffer and slippery) to operate and contributed to slower combat reloads. And , the LEM trigger was essentially double action only which is a much longer and heavier trigger pull then the HK P7M13 trigger. And, no I do not agree that there are cheaper guns than the P7M13 that can do the same job an M13 does. |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 12:06:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2015 1:05:53 PM EDT
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Just been sitting in a box.... the magic of the P7
I can't get the links to work correctly UGH! 
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Posted: 9/24/2015 7:24:39 PM EDT
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Only thing I gotta say is it shoots like a laser. I'd pull the trigger and a hole would appear wherever my sites were. Regret selling it.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 2:06:51 AM EDT
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Would like to see a shoot-off btwn a P7 & a Walther CCP.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 10:36:52 AM EDT
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I kinda regret selling mine. It was definitely a niche' pistol for me. I picked it up for just under $600. It was typical of the PSP's that were imported, carried but not much for round count it would seem. I had 4 spare mags, and RCS Phantom and RCS Single mag carrier. Sold it during the "Purge" after Sandy Hook for $1500 for the entire package. Wish I still had it! Things are lasers!
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Posted: 1/11/2016 1:41:27 AM EDT
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Digging up my year old post because I found a new in the box P7M8 this weekend. It wasn't showcased as new, but got it home and pulled the slide and it is just perfect in every respect. Decent price considering what I have recently seen on GB. Wanted a shooter, gonna be hard to pull the trigger on it for the first time...
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Posted: 1/11/2016 1:55:39 AM EDT
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I had one of the surplus PSP guns.
Meh. Maybe because I have smallish hands or maybe my expectations were too high but, I just didn't love it. Officers sized 1911 from DW replaced it. For a single stack 9 it's a big heavy gun. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 3:37:38 AM EDT
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I never understood the fuss about this line of HK's. As much as I like HK, I know not everything they make is solid gold. Never quite knew if this was a cult following or if it was really that good
I need to shoot one to see what the fuss is about. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:27:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never understood the fuss about this line of HK's. As much as I like HK, I know not everything they make is solid gold. Never quite knew if this was a cult following or if it was really that good
I need to shoot one to see what the fuss is about. I've not gotten to shoot one, but my impression is that it really was that good for the era, if you had strong hands. Pre-Glock, it solved the DA/SA trigger problem, and had a fixed bbl, to boot. If it was just fanboys, then the HK P9 would be loved as well, which doesn't seem to be the case. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:32:49 AM EDT
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I never understood the fuss about this line of HK's. As much as I like HK, I know not everything they make is solid gold. Never quite knew if this was a cult following or if it was really that good
I need to shoot one to see what the fuss is about. I shot a rabbit out of my garden at 75yds with mine on the first shot a few years back. Not only are they lasers, they're just a joy to shoot. Imho, it's the most fun pistol I own to shoot. Honestly I don't understand why the gas system hasn't caught on with more pistols. I know the new Walther CCP uses it, but for as soft as the recoil is, and as accurate as the fixed barrel is, I think a full size 9mm with the gas system would be the cats ass in competition. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:56:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I shot a rabbit out of my garden at 75yds with mine on the first shot a few years back.
Not only are they lasers, they're just a joy to shoot. Imho, it's the most fun pistol I own to shoot. Honestly I don't understand why the gas system hasn't caught on with more pistols. I know the new Walther CCP uses it, but for as soft as the recoil is, and as accurate as the fixed barrel is, I think a full size 9mm with the gas system would be the cats ass in competition. Wasn't that what the Steyr GB was? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_GB |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:09:21 AM EDT
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i'm glad this thread got brought back up as i've run across a p7 that i need some help with trying to figure out it's value.
a friends father passed away and left him some guns he's thinking about selling and asked me for some help in valuing them. i believe he has an early p7. it has a chantilly va roll marked slide. it's also engraved T&E on the slide 
i could prob swing by and pick the pistol up from him to get some pics of it if that would help. has anyone seen a p7 that has the t&e engraving on the slide ? |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 7:00:30 AM EDT
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I've not gotten to shoot one, but my impression is that it really was that good for the era, if you had strong hands. Pre-Glock, it solved the DA/SA trigger problem, and had a fixed bbl, to boot. If it was just fanboys, then the HK P9 would be loved as well, which doesn't seem to be the case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I need to shoot one to see what the fuss is about. I've not gotten to shoot one, but my impression is that it really was that good for the era, if you had strong hands. Pre-Glock, it solved the DA/SA trigger problem, and had a fixed bbl, to boot. If it was just fanboys, then the HK P9 would be loved as well, which doesn't seem to be the case. I have both the P7 and the P9. The P7 is a beauty to shoot, in a small and concealable package. I passed up on a P7 about twelve years ago. Someone offered me to trade straight up their P7M8 for my USP .45. Damn I'm kicking myself for not jumping on it. The P9 on the other hand, is still a beauty to shoot, but it truly is a target pistol rather than a service weapon or a concealed carry piece. I find my P9 to be my absolute softest recoiling 9mm of all my HK's. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 7:36:26 AM EDT
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I have both the P7 and the P9. The P7 is a beauty to shoot, in a small and concealable package. I passed up on a P7 about twelve years ago. Someone offered me to trade straight up their P7M8 for my USP .45. Damn I'm kicking myself for not jumping on it. The P9 on the other hand, is still a beauty to shoot, but it truly is a target pistol rather than a service weapon or a concealed carry piece. I find my P9 to be my absolute softest recoiling 9mm of all my HK's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I need to shoot one to see what the fuss is about. I've not gotten to shoot one, but my impression is that it really was that good for the era, if you had strong hands. Pre-Glock, it solved the DA/SA trigger problem, and had a fixed bbl, to boot. If it was just fanboys, then the HK P9 would be loved as well, which doesn't seem to be the case. I have both the P7 and the P9. The P7 is a beauty to shoot, in a small and concealable package. I passed up on a P7 about twelve years ago. Someone offered me to trade straight up their P7M8 for my USP .45. Damn I'm kicking myself for not jumping on it. The P9 on the other hand, is still a beauty to shoot, but it truly is a target pistol rather than a service weapon or a concealed carry piece. I find my P9 to be my absolute softest recoiling 9mm of all my HK's. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 7:49:48 AM EDT
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I got a dealer special on a P7M8 seventeen years ago. It came with 5 mags and only costed $1000.
It is the best deal I ever got on a gun. Like others have said the thing gets burning hot. Awesome shooting pistol with a very quick and snappy recoil. I have never been able to shoot another gun the fast and accurately. I sold it a few years ago for double what I paid for it. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:51:10 AM EDT
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i believe he has an early p7. it has a chantilly va roll marked slide. it's also engraved T&E on the slide
i could prob swing by and pick the pistol up from him to get some pics of it if that would help. has anyone seen a p7 that has the t&e engraving on the slide ? I have not seen a P7 that had "T&E" engraved on the slide. Pictures would help to determine exactly what your friend has. If you can't post pictures, send me a PM. If your friend's P7 is a Chantilly import, it was most likely imported between 1983 and 1988 (ID, IE, IF, IG, IH, or II date codes). It could be either a P7M8 or a P7M13. I am not aware of any "straight" P7s being imported through Chantilly. I believe all of the commercial P7s (non-M8/M13s) were imported through Arlington, Sterling, or Trussville, but I could be wrong. Chantilly imported P7M8s came from the factory with the "fat" trigger. If it has the "skinny" trigger, it was most likely replaced by HK as part of a drop safety upgrade program. Here's a picture of my Chantilly P7M8 with a "fat" trigger: 
This is my Sterling import P7M8 with a "skinny" trigger: 
These are German ex-police P7s. The top P7 is considered a C grade, the bottom P7 is considered an A grade. 
Since it's Friday, here's some .45ACP P9S porn. The top is an Arlington import, the bottom is a SACO import. 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:25:52 PM EDT
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I have not seen a P7 that had "T&E" engraved on the slide. Pictures would help to determine exactly what your friend has. If you can't post pictures, send me a PM. If your friend's P7 is a Chantilly import, it was most likely imported between 1983 and 1988 (ID, IE, IF, IG, IH, or II date codes). It could be either a P7M8 or a P7M13. I am not aware of any "straight" P7s being imported through Chantilly. I believe all of the commercial P7s (non-M8/M13s) were imported through Arlington, Sterling, or Trussville, but I could be wrong. Chantilly imported P7M8s came from the factory with the "fat" trigger. If it has the "skinny" trigger, it was most likely replaced by HK as part of a drop safety upgrade program. Here's a picture of my Chantilly P7M8 with a "fat" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg</a> This is my Sterling import P7M8 with a "skinny" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg</a> These are German ex-police P7s. The top P7 is considered a C grade, the bottom P7 is considered an A grade. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg</a> Since it's Friday, here's some .45ACP P9S porn. The top is an Arlington import, the bottom is a SACO import. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i believe he has an early p7. it has a chantilly va roll marked slide. it's also engraved T&E on the slide
i could prob swing by and pick the pistol up from him to get some pics of it if that would help. has anyone seen a p7 that has the t&e engraving on the slide ? I have not seen a P7 that had "T&E" engraved on the slide. Pictures would help to determine exactly what your friend has. If you can't post pictures, send me a PM. If your friend's P7 is a Chantilly import, it was most likely imported between 1983 and 1988 (ID, IE, IF, IG, IH, or II date codes). It could be either a P7M8 or a P7M13. I am not aware of any "straight" P7s being imported through Chantilly. I believe all of the commercial P7s (non-M8/M13s) were imported through Arlington, Sterling, or Trussville, but I could be wrong. Chantilly imported P7M8s came from the factory with the "fat" trigger. If it has the "skinny" trigger, it was most likely replaced by HK as part of a drop safety upgrade program. Here's a picture of my Chantilly P7M8 with a "fat" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg</a> This is my Sterling import P7M8 with a "skinny" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg</a> These are German ex-police P7s. The top P7 is considered a C grade, the bottom P7 is considered an A grade. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg</a> Since it's Friday, here's some .45ACP P9S porn. The top is an Arlington import, the bottom is a SACO import. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg</a> Just
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:13:03 PM EDT
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I have not seen a P7 that had "T&E" engraved on the slide. Pictures would help to determine exactly what your friend has. If you can't post pictures, send me a PM. If your friend's P7 is a Chantilly import, it was most likely imported between 1983 and 1988 (ID, IE, IF, IG, IH, or II date codes). It could be either a P7M8 or a P7M13. I am not aware of any "straight" P7s being imported through Chantilly. I believe all of the commercial P7s (non-M8/M13s) were imported through Arlington, Sterling, or Trussville, but I could be wrong. Chantilly imported P7M8s came from the factory with the "fat" trigger. If it has the "skinny" trigger, it was most likely replaced by HK as part of a drop safety upgrade program. Here's a picture of my Chantilly P7M8 with a "fat" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg</a> This is my Sterling import P7M8 with a "skinny" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg</a> These are German ex-police P7s. The top P7 is considered a C grade, the bottom P7 is considered an A grade. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg</a> Since it's Friday, here's some .45ACP P9S porn. The top is an Arlington import, the bottom is a SACO import. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i believe he has an early p7. it has a chantilly va roll marked slide. it's also engraved T&E on the slide
i could prob swing by and pick the pistol up from him to get some pics of it if that would help. has anyone seen a p7 that has the t&e engraving on the slide ? I have not seen a P7 that had "T&E" engraved on the slide. Pictures would help to determine exactly what your friend has. If you can't post pictures, send me a PM. If your friend's P7 is a Chantilly import, it was most likely imported between 1983 and 1988 (ID, IE, IF, IG, IH, or II date codes). It could be either a P7M8 or a P7M13. I am not aware of any "straight" P7s being imported through Chantilly. I believe all of the commercial P7s (non-M8/M13s) were imported through Arlington, Sterling, or Trussville, but I could be wrong. Chantilly imported P7M8s came from the factory with the "fat" trigger. If it has the "skinny" trigger, it was most likely replaced by HK as part of a drop safety upgrade program. Here's a picture of my Chantilly P7M8 with a "fat" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_0277.1_zpsmik7lnsc.jpg</a> This is my Sterling import P7M8 with a "skinny" trigger: <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P7M8.2.a_zpsls8ppm5g.jpg</a> These are German ex-police P7s. The top P7 is considered a C grade, the bottom P7 is considered an A grade. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/P1010309.1_zpsxxpcet7v.jpg</a> Since it's Friday, here's some .45ACP P9S porn. The top is an Arlington import, the bottom is a SACO import. <a href="http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/nitmr26/media/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q766/nitmr26/IMG_4335.a_zpswgxjexqc.jpg</a> thanks for the info and nice pics. i'll have to try and get by and pick the pistol up and get some pics of it. i believe it was a chantilly import but it may have been sterling , i remember it was local to me. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 6:35:17 PM EDT
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i picked the pistol up this afternoon. it is chantilly rollmarked but appears to have the skinny trigger.and the t&e marking is on the frame not the slide.
the gun overall appears to be in really good condition , it doesn't look like it's been fired much at all. here's a couple of crappy ipotato pics 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 8:50:48 PM EDT
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i picked the pistol up this afternoon. it is chantilly rollmarked but appears to have the skinny trigger.and the t&e marking is on the frame not the slide. the gun overall appears to be in really good condition , it doesn't look like it's been fired much at all. here's a couple of crappy ipotato pics http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/p7m8_zpsypjsrwsj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_2745_zps67lknpa5.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_2735_zpsydq7zaqj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/p7m8%202_zpsgtpakwln.jpg If that engraving is factory, it looks like you have a Testing and Evaluation gun. Probably was used as a demo to various .gov agencies. I don't know if that raises the value of the pistol at all, but I'd ask the folks over at HK Pro. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 8:54:09 PM EDT
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If that engraving is factory, it looks like you have a Testing and Evaluation gun. Probably was used as a demo to various .gov agencies. I don't know if that raises the value of the pistol at all, but I'd ask the folks over at HK Pro. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i picked the pistol up this afternoon. it is chantilly rollmarked but appears to have the skinny trigger.and the t&e marking is on the frame not the slide. the gun overall appears to be in really good condition , it doesn't look like it's been fired much at all. here's a couple of crappy ipotato pics http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/p7m8_zpsypjsrwsj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_2745_zps67lknpa5.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_2735_zpsydq7zaqj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/p7m8%202_zpsgtpakwln.jpg If that engraving is factory, it looks like you have a Testing and Evaluation gun. Probably was used as a demo to various .gov agencies. I don't know if that raises the value of the pistol at all, but I'd ask the folks over at HK Pro. Nah man, its used!
Ok....I think its pretty freaking cool 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:33:02 PM EDT
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the t&e engraving looks factory. it's hard to tell from the pics but it matches the goldish color on the other side of the serial #.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:41:22 PM EDT
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i picked the pistol up this afternoon. it is chantilly rollmarked but appears to have the skinny trigger.and the t&e marking is on the frame not the slide. the gun overall appears to be in really good condition , it doesn't look like it's been fired much at all. That P7M8 looks really nice. It doesn't appear to have much if any exterior wear. The slide has a just a small amount of "plum" to it. If you are unsure as to if it has been shot much, you could remove the slide and look to see if there is any carbon build up on the gas piston. Without knowing the T&E history of the pistol, it would be tough for me to offer if that would increase the value of the pistol. P7M8s in that condition without any T&E history, routinely sell in the $2,000 neighborhood (+/- a few hundred dollars). If your friend is looking to sell it, I would recommend that he buy a membership to HKPro.com, and list it on that site. I think it would move fairly quickly. Best Regards, |
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