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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:20:54 PM EDT
Besides expensive ammo,what can you tell me about them?Always loved the look of the stainless version,held one today for the first time .
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They need a beefed up spring and a shock buffer is a GOOD idea!
The early blued Colt Delta Elites used to beat themselves up pretty hard pretty quickly... 10mm pressures are on the upper end of the J.M.B. tilting bbl design. BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Just finished fitting .40 S&W and 9mm barrels to mine this evening.
As soon as I see how they work out, I will be doing a .38 Super as well. If they all work as I suspect they will, it will be a very versatile firearm. I also have finished a few upgrades, Wilson combat parts: Beavertail Grip Safety Bullet Proof Hammer bullet Proof Sear Bullet Proof Tactical Thumb Safety Checkered flat MSH FLGR 24# Recoil spring Of course, it was awesome just stock 10mm, I just made it more awesommer |
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I love mine. Shoots beautifully.
Here's the collected wisdom of the hive that I've found in the time I've owned mine: - Stay within spec on the ammo if you reload. If you push beyond spec, you'll get into trouble, but in spec you're good. Seems like the design is sufficient for 10mm, but not exactly overdesigned. - Buffalo Bore is GTG for full-power. Underwood is not. Nobody seems to know why that is. - Don't change the spring on schedule and you can batter the frame. So, change springs every 1000 rds of full power or 2000 rds of lite. - Some people like strong springs, but most find that factory is the best choice as it'll eat lite through full-power with them, no issues. Go with stiffer spring(s) (factory is double) and you may lose the ability to reliably shoot the lite stuff. |
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Update, it runs great, doesn't like the alum cased 9mm much, but brass cased is awesome.
Put in an ultralight adjustable WC trigger, and over sized FPS, just rounded the edge. Next is Novak sights and maybe checkering the front strap, still planning on .38 super and 9x23 barrels as well. |
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Quoted: I picked this ugly thing last night at Cabelas... http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/02798797-3DDB-4EA2-A601-5AC7E41895B2_zps4ulydjw5.jpg http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/8BAAF767-E4EE-46C5-B077-0B87FFDAF1E9_zpsbrnoqiu9.jpg Sports an extended and ported Barsto barrel and a nice, crisp trigger pull. And the Delta medallion G10 grips are a nice touch. View Quote Love the grips....the rest of that poor thing is like....well...like rape. It's fucking hideous. Whatcha gonna do to fix her back up???????? |
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Love the grips....the rest of that poor thing is like....well...like rape. It's fucking hideous. Whatcha gonna do to fix her back up???????? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I picked this ugly thing last night at Cabelas... http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/02798797-3DDB-4EA2-A601-5AC7E41895B2_zps4ulydjw5.jpg http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/8BAAF767-E4EE-46C5-B077-0B87FFDAF1E9_zpsbrnoqiu9.jpg Sports an extended and ported Barsto barrel and a nice, crisp trigger pull. And the Delta medallion G10 grips are a nice touch. Love the grips....the rest of that poor thing is like....well...like rape. It's fucking hideous. Whatcha gonna do to fix her back up???????? Kind of want to replaced the extended magwell with a normal MSH; replace the barrel with a Govt. length barrel and that's pretty much it. I haven't fired the weapon yet (stuck at work doing overtime), but I will make a solid decision once I fire it and see how it performs. |
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I've had my blued delta since they come out, or about a yr after. Had it so long the dies have no mention of .40. I need to get a new recoil spring for sure, and whatever else that would be a good upgrade. Enjoy seeing all the different .10's And what can be done with them, Interesting to see someone do some switch barrel work. Does anyone else still have the guns and ammo with the Delta Elite on the cover.
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Quoted: Kind of want to replaced the extended magwell with a normal MSH; replace the barrel with a Govt. length barrel and that's pretty much it. I haven't fired the weapon yet (stuck at work doing overtime), but I will make a solid decision once I fire it and see how it performs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I picked this ugly thing last night at Cabelas... http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/02798797-3DDB-4EA2-A601-5AC7E41895B2_zps4ulydjw5.jpg http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/8BAAF767-E4EE-46C5-B077-0B87FFDAF1E9_zpsbrnoqiu9.jpg Sports an extended and ported Barsto barrel and a nice, crisp trigger pull. And the Delta medallion G10 grips are a nice touch. Love the grips....the rest of that poor thing is like....well...like rape. It's fucking hideous. Whatcha gonna do to fix her back up???????? Kind of want to replaced the extended magwell with a normal MSH; replace the barrel with a Govt. length barrel and that's pretty much it. I haven't fired the weapon yet (stuck at work doing overtime), but I will make a solid decision once I fire it and see how it performs. You are a wise man. I also suggest trimming the gas pedal safety down. That is the nice thing about those, you can shape them as you like. I completely agree with you taking of the MSH and getting some normal profile grips. Should be too hard to find some G10 Delta Emblem grips if you look around. |
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You are a wise man. I also suggest trimming the gas pedal safety down. That is the nice thing about those, you can shape them as you like. I completely agree with you taking of the MSH and getting some normal profile grips. Should be too hard to find some G10 Delta Emblem grips if you look around. View Quote I like the grips - Look like custom VZ Operator Grips. I'm keeping those. I am pretty much a stock guy when it comes to 1911s, specially nice ones, like this. I want to polish the slide and frame to remove the scratches. Rearrange a few things but not too much. |
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Quoted: I like the grips - Look like custom VZ Operator Grips. I'm keeping those. I am pretty much a stock guy when it comes to 1911s, specially nice ones, like this. I want to polish the slide and frame to remove the scratches. Rearrange a few things but not too much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You are a wise man. I also suggest trimming the gas pedal safety down. That is the nice thing about those, you can shape them as you like. I completely agree with you taking of the MSH and getting some normal profile grips. Should be too hard to find some G10 Delta Emblem grips if you look around. I like the grips - Look like custom VZ Operator Grips. I'm keeping those. I am pretty much a stock guy when it comes to 1911s, specially nice ones, like this. I want to polish the slide and frame to remove the scratches. Rearrange a few things but not too much. Thing is, those grips are flat bottoms and do look best ( that is entirely subjective as think extended magwells look like shit ) with extended mag wells. You should be able to get the identical grips but in normal 1911 type with the beveled bottom. I am just thankful that you rescued her. The original owner must have been a douche of the highest order. God DAMN that gun looks like shit. Poor little thing. |
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Quoted: Well? Did a little de-Bubbaizing of the Delta... http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Weapons/2ABA8F34-B8D5-48A6-9A44-9AD3D1AA0520_zpszspqk6xv.jpg Replaced the trigger and MSH; i also have other parts that need to be fitted, but I am on my way. View Quote Already lookin' good, Man!!!! Keep it up!!!!!!!! See if someone can apply the proper decorative bevel to the bottom of the grips ( see these grips on the Delta below for a reference ) and you will be damn close to stellar!!! Rock on, our fellow 10mm aficionado!!!! Rock on! |
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Factory 10mm ammo is a rip off. It shouldn't cost much more than 40SW. It's much more expensive than 40 because of the lack of buyers, so they have to make up the production and shipment costs on the low volume of 10mm sales.
That's why 10mm is one of the most cost effective rounds to reload. |
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Love the 10mm. My recent Delta I had Greg Derr Precision do.
1497968_779856748811142_5834708962956309186_o by Ruben Zamora, on Flickr |
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I've been drooling after a Delta Elite for a long time, finally starting to get to where I'll spring for one.
Questions though, being that used and new seem to be about equivalent on pricing... Is there any changes or design updates that make the purchase of a new model preferable over a earlier one? Also, saw bigger hammer mention the blued ones seem to beat themselves up. Is that inherent to that specific model compared to the stainless one or more just heavy use/heavy loads without the proper maintenance/mods? |
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Just finished fitting .40 S&W and 9mm barrels to mine this evening. As soon as I see how they work out, I will be doing a .38 Super as well. If they all work as I suspect they will, it will be a very versatile firearm. I also have finished a few upgrades, Wilson combat parts: Beavertail Grip Safety Bullet Proof Hammer bullet Proof Sear Bullet Proof Tactical Thumb Safety Checkered flat MSH FLGR 24# Recoil spring Of course, it was awesome just stock 10mm, I just made it more awesommer View Quote You had my curiosity, now you have my attention!! Edit: Didn't realize this thread is a bit old. |
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Great looking pistols. I just purchased a newer model and the seller had put on a beavertail that does not match the finish of the brushed or matte stainless. It appears to be too shiny. Who makes a grip safety that matches the factory finish? http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i13/qwikkota/Rods/20160308_084148_zpszwagoafs.jpg View Quote Get the right media and blast it yourself. |
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I've had my blued delta since they come out, or about a yr after. Had it so long the dies have no mention of .40. I need to get a new recoil spring for sure, and whatever else that would be a good upgrade. Enjoy seeing all the different .10's And what can be done with them, Interesting to see someone do some switch barrel work. Does anyone else still have the guns and ammo with the Delta Elite on the cover. View Quote I used to have about 5-6 magazines from back in the day when DE's were the hottest ticket on the market, including one entire special issue dedicated to the 10mm and all available guns at the time. I haven't seen them in years an I fear my wife has thrown them out! |
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Had a blue DE from the late 1980's - excellent pistol. Ammo just was too expensive for me at the time, so it sat in the safe until I traded it about 10 years ago.
It was a great shooter. |
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That looks great, Brother! I can't wait to get mine "blacktopped"!!!!!!!!!
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I have an early blue Delta Elite, and early on I tried a lot of the various 'fixes' to make up for its pundit-declared inability to handle full power ammo. Wilson full length guide rod with shock-buffers, heavy spring, etc. Those caused occasional problems. I put all the factory parts back in at that point (new springs though).
What I left in the pistol and has caused no problems and lead to what at the time felt like a minor but noticeable softening of recoil was replacing the firing pin stop with one that has a significantly smaller radius where it rides back over the hammer to cock it. Also a slightly heavier hammer spring. It makes it slightly harder to start racking the slide, and so also reportedly slows the initial slide opening rate and reduces slide recoil velocity while firing. I can't find the website I found the info on back then, but there are others available by search. Apparently the original 1911 design actually used a smaller radius firing pin stop than became standard later, so this is just falling back closer to the original design. |
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OK. Enough is enough. Went to the gunstore today and plopped down my deposit for the gun that has fascinated me for a long time. Of course I want the rail version and they told me they don't know when it will be in stock, but I'm on my way towards ownership of this gun. Just had to let my compadres here know - it's in the works. It'll probably get here when my CZ 75 TS Orange gets in. My wifes gonna kill me.........
I already reload for the 40 S&W so I have the di-sets needed to reload this beast. Anyone have a pet load they use?? |
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I have an early blue Delta Elite, and early on I tried a lot of the various 'fixes' to make up for its pundit-declared inability to handle full power ammo. Wilson full length guide rod with shock-buffers, heavy spring, etc. Those caused occasional problems. I put all the factory parts back in at that point (new springs though). What I left in the pistol and has caused no problems and lead to what at the time felt like a minor but noticeable softening of recoil was replacing the firing pin stop with one that has a significantly smaller radius where it rides back over the hammer to cock it. Also a slightly heavier hammer spring. It makes it slightly harder to start racking the slide, and so also reportedly slows the initial slide opening rate and reduces slide recoil velocity while firing. I can't find the website I found the info on back then, but there are others available by search. Apparently the original 1911 design actually used a smaller radius firing pin stop than became standard later, so this is just falling back closer to the original design. View Quote This is the proper way to set up a 1911 for heavy 10mm loads. Heavy recoil springs just hammer parts in the other direction. |
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Oh hell. Look what followed my home today https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137149/IMG-0276-134075.JPG View Quote |
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Oh hell. Look what followed my home today https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137149/IMG-0276-134075.JPG View Quote Nice, congrats, you will love the Delta Elite. |
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1st range trip today. This thing shoots like a dream. I was surprised that the recoil was nothing like I expected. I guess being a full size steel gun and its heft tame recoil quite a bit. Shoots impressive fireballs out the front but I think my XD sub and Sig 229R elite (both in 40) recoil quite a bit harder or have more "wrist snap" than the Delta Elite. 2 boxes of ammo set me back 82 bucks so I'm stockpiling brass and will soon have enough to start reloading for it. I already have the die sets for 40 so all I have to do is adjust the dies. Great shooter and most everyone at the range wanted to see or shoot it. Feels great in the hand and shoots great. I'm in love with this thing......
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1st range trip today. This thing shoots like a dream. I was surprised that the recoil was nothing like I expected. I guess being a full size steel gun and its heft tame recoil quite a bit. Shoots impressive fireballs out the front but I think my XD sub and Sig 229R elite (both in 40) recoil quite a bit harder or have more "wrist snap" than the Delta Elite. 2 boxes of ammo set me back 82 bucks so I'm stockpiling brass and will soon have enough to start reloading for it. I already have the die sets for 40 so all I have to do is adjust the dies. Great shooter and most everyone at the range wanted to see or shoot it. Feels great in the hand and shoots great. I'm in love with this thing...... View Quote Careful of range brass... although to be honest range 10mm is pretty scarce, most who shoot it pick it up :). But you can get bulged cases with hot loads with some guns, so range pickup be mindful and inspect carefully. I have quite a bit of SIG brass, it's a good OEM load. But I also bought 2K brass from Starline, so I'm only loading virgin or 1x fired by me so I know what was loaded in it. |
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understood. the only 10mm brass on the floor was from me so I know its 1X out of my gun.
Got a pet load? |
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understood. the only 10mm brass on the floor was from me so I know its 1X out of my gun. Got a pet load? View Quote Ture, it is rare to find 10mm brass on the ground lol... Some soft (relatively) range/plinking loads are either Power Pistol 6.6 or WST 6.0 over 180 lead/coated nets you around 10-1050 FPS typically. Stepping up a bit Blue Dot anywhere in the 10.2-11 range, I Like 10.7 over Zero JHP for a stout but controllable Jacketed load, but it's flashy. 10.4g is a popular choice as well. Longshot 10.0 over 180's is sporty as well usually hitting 1300+ out of a 5", but is over max so work up to it. Heres's a large sample of data as welll.... 10mm Lood Data |
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Where did you get that bag and or patch?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes When my 'smith shipped my Delta back after the work, it came back in that bag. The Colt DE patch I found at a local gun show on some dealer's table. He seemed to specialize in official factory "swag," such as catalogs, posters, and logo patches, from makers like Colt, S&W, Ruger, etc. For the price of a couple of strong marguaritas, my girl sewed it on, ... slightly crooked as it turned out. . Guess she should've done the work before the margies. |
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I had an older stainless Delta Elite and I loved it. Well, I haven't met a Colt 1911 I didn't like and the 10mm is fun as hell. But, I seriously wanted to modernize it with a real beavertail grip safety, extended thumb safety, real sights, etc. You know, exactly how they come from the factory now. I thought about it, and just the machining for the sights, plus parts and a thumb/grip safety and installation would probably be 3 bills. Not to mention the lowered ejection port, high cut on the front strap, etc. So I sold my old one and bought a brand new one last week for $55 more than I sold mine for.
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OP, ammo isn't expensive if mild S&B will satisfy -- $15/50 rds on avg.
I'm looking to add a Kart or another aftermarket NM barrel to my new release DE. Anyone try the oversize, non ramped Kart barrel and have more case support? Thx |
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