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Posted: 7/6/2012 10:45:59 AM

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One of the guys I work with is selling a Colt Python 4" stainless which is NIB. I haven't seen it in person so I can't confirm the fact of it being new. He's asking $2,000 for it, so would I be stupid for passing this up? Its more then I want to spend for a "safe queen"

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Posted: 7/6/2012 10:52:47 AM
too pricey.
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:12:11 AM
Originally Posted By martinmayhem:
too pricey.


Really? I've seen them online for $2400-$2600.
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Posted: 7/6/2012 12:02:28 PM
I will tell you this....they wont be going down in price anytime soon...
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Posted: 7/6/2012 12:31:17 PM
For $800 that's a good deal.

$2000 is butt sex.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 10:25:19 PM
What are your intentions? As an investment, that's significantly cheaper than any NIB Python that's listed on Gunbroker right now... although that doesn't say what they've actually been selling for.

It will be sitting in your safe begging you to shoot it though, so if your intentions are anything other than investing, I'd look for a shooter.
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Posted: 7/8/2012 3:29:42 PM
$2k isn't bad for a genuine NIB. Close inspection will determine that. Look at cylinder notches and forcing cone for any evidence of firing.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 10:55:40 AM
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Picked up a new 4inch polished stainless python for $650 in May. You can do better, but it will take a lot of looking plus some wheeling and dealing. If you want it now, then 2k isn't too bad I guess... That's a hefty convenience fee though


That being said, the 4 inch polished stainless is amazing with the black badger ordinance grips.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 5:39:09 PM
I love the Pythons. I have owned several of them over the years. But I wouldn't pay over $1500 for one, even if it is new in box.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 9:13:42 PM
ive never understood the appeal and high price of the python. there are tons of .357 magnums out there
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Posted: 7/12/2012 9:31:37 PM
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Originally Posted By John87:
ive never understood the appeal and high price of the python. there are tons of .357 magnums out there
Yeah, but none will have the luster, elegance and appeal of a Colt Python.

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Posted: 7/12/2012 9:48:45 PM
Originally Posted By 1IV:
For $800 that's a good deal.

$2000 is butt sex.


Well what if you like butt sex???


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Posted: 7/12/2012 10:34:52 PM
Originally Posted By hightower2011:
Originally Posted By 1IV:
For $800 that's a good deal.

$2000 is butt sex.


Well what if you like butt sex???




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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:10:32 AM
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In Texas, nib pythons always have asking prices greater than $1,500, but I don't know what they sell for. The asking price for that gun used would still be $1,100, so I think it's a fair deal, but not a great deal. People who are willing to have a S&W usually haven't shot them both very much. The Python is usually more accurate, sometimes has better sights, and has a much smoother action. Is you get a quality action job on a S&W L frame, it will be better than you can make the Python. lots of people see the style and finish of the Python as the hands-down winner, especially in the blued models. Have a Smith polished and refinished to equal the Python, and you'll spend the same money overall, if not more. I've seen Uberti SA guns finished to that level, but it costs money.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 12:54:28 PM
I've always thought the Pythons were overrated. The finish is beautiful, but that soon passes if you use it much. The DA trigger is magically smooth in the gun store, but it stacks, has no reference points, and it takes a lot of practice to shoot well in DA mode compared to the Smith. The Smith isn't as smooth, but it gives you a lot of feedback before it releases. The Smith SA trigger is much lighter, smoother, and crisper. The Smith SA trigger is pretty hard to beat right out of the box. With a little work the Smith DA pull can be made plenty smooth. It's just some polishing and the right lubes.

The Python was built on the Colt "I" frame, a variant of the "E" frame with a longer cylinder and adjustable sights, and of course the underlug and top rail. The action was built such that one V spring powered the trigger, hammer, and hand (pawl). Only the cylinder locking bolt had its own spring. This makes the Python almost impossible to smith beyond the way it comes from the factory. You can get a lighter V spring to lighten everything, but that's about it. Anything you would polish already is. The Smith has individual springs and a less interlocked action. It can be tuned just about any way you want. The Python action required fairly extensive hand fitting. All that labor was why it cost so much, not that it was inherently any better. Parts will wear and it will get out of tune before an "L" or "N" frame Smith. Parts will have to be replaced, and it takes a decent gunsmith, familiar with the action, to hand fit them to the gun.

As an investment, a safe queen, or an occasional shooter the Python definitely has sex appeal. If you are a good shooter and want to shoot it a lot, a Smith 686 is a better bet in my opinion.

The proof of what I am saying is that highly tuned Smiths, not Colts, took the overwhelming majority of wins in major action shooting competition, back when a lot of people did that with revolvers.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 8:42:52 PM
If it really is NIB I would counteroffer $1500 and meet him halfway, $1750.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 10:18:02 PM
Originally Posted By JohnRippert:
If it really is NIB I would counteroffer $1500 and meet him halfway, $1750.


This is what I would do.
$1500 would ne a great deal.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:11:41 PM
I'd go as high as 1500 for it. Then I'd go shoot it. No safe queens here. I bought a Delta safe queen once. I promptly shot the piss out of it. Guns are made to be shot.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 10:20:17 AM
unless you are a collector and will never shoot it, i would spend less on a gun that is fired.

in addition, i dont get the high prices of a python. its just a pretty .357(i have NO first hand experience with this gun, however a friend of mine has one and told me the da trigger is nothing to write home about)

i would recommend a smith 586 for a shooter.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 5:08:25 PM

YOu stold it then... Looking at gunbroker them things are all over in price.... 2000 could be high and maybe not..... I wouldnt jump on it, he isnt selling quick...


Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Picked up a new 4inch polished stainless python for $650 in May. You can do better, but it will take a lot of looking plus some wheeling and dealing. If you want it now, then 2k isn't too bad I guess... That's a hefty convenience fee though


That being said, the 4 inch polished stainless is amazing with the black badger ordinance grips.


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Posted: 8/24/2012 5:30:02 PM

Originally Posted By 1IV:
For $800 that's a good deal.

$2000 is butt sex.

Yup.
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