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Posted: 7/20/2012 10:58:09 PM

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I think I have found a way to add a safety to the rear of the PPQ you would push on with your thumb while you holster it. It would stop the pistol from firing if the trigger caught something in it like your clothing. The safety would only be on while you pressed it in. If something started to activate the trigger, you would feel it through the safety.

It would be physically somewhat like the decocker on the HK P30.

Is this something anyone else would be interested in?
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Posted: 7/21/2012 12:09:18 AM
Get a p30/P99, or get a good holster and grow a pair of nuts.

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Posted: 7/21/2012 9:51:39 AM
While I don't feel I need a safety on it I'd be curious to see what you'd come up with. Nothing wrong with options.
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Posted: 7/21/2012 8:21:02 PM
Originally Posted By RanchDressing:
Get a p30/P99, or get a good holster and grow a pair of nuts.



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Posted: 7/21/2012 8:26:35 PM
Originally Posted By thesystem:
While I don't feel I need a safety on it I'd be curious to see what you'd come up with. Nothing wrong with options.


If you look in the frame, the right side has the "trigger"spring and a space behind it, where the assembly moves when you pull the trigger. Put a plunger in there, going through a small hole in the right rear of the frame to a small button on the outside. Press on the button, move the plunger forward into the empty space, and it blocks the trigger linkage from moving back. If something catches in the trigger, you will feel the pressure on the button, and can stop holstering.
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Posted: 7/21/2012 8:46:58 PM
No. I bought PPQs because they _don't_ have external safeties.

I think you are trying to solve a non-existent problem.
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Posted: 7/22/2012 1:58:25 PM
Do you have a prototype? I prefer not to carry guns with light triggers and no safety. I'd rather not shoot myself in the leg.
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Posted: 7/22/2012 10:50:05 PM

Originally Posted By Plattekill:
Originally Posted By thesystem:
While I don't feel I need a safety on it I'd be curious to see what you'd come up with. Nothing wrong with options.


If you look in the frame, the right side has the "trigger"spring and a space behind it, where the assembly moves when you pull the trigger. Put a plunger in there, going through a small hole in the right rear of the frame to a small button on the outside. Press on the button, move the plunger forward into the empty space, and it blocks the trigger linkage from moving back. If something catches in the trigger, you will feel the pressure on the button, and can stop holstering.

First...I alwys thought that end tab was funny looking..like it was designed to move...second your design sound just like the design on the PPS. I wounder if this might of been in the works and they changed directions. I like it, I would of liked the " live" marker like on the PPS I find it a great idea..and doesn't have the ability to cause a FTFire ..it's just a reactive button that shows its cocked and ready. Added benefit it will tell you when reholstering if the triggers being pulled.


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Posted: 7/23/2012 12:41:13 AM
My PPQ is the first pistol I've purchased with no safety. I was a bit aprehensive but I'm used to it now. With a good holster I think it should just be used as designed. IMO.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 8:54:34 PM
I've never owned a pistol with a safety. I do like the de-cocker on the P99. Does the PPQ not have that?

Boot.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 9:14:50 PM
Originally Posted By MacBlackboot:
I've never owned a pistol with a safety. I do like the de-cocker on the P99. Does the PPQ not have that?

Boot.


no it does not, but it is as safe as the shooter
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Posted: 7/25/2012 9:38:43 AM
Originally Posted By superuk:
Originally Posted By MacBlackboot:
I've never owned a pistol with a safety. I do like the de-cocker on the P99. Does the PPQ not have that?

Boot.


no it does not, but it is as safe as the shooter


If you want that, look at the older model P99 –– check one of the FAQs for trigger types. I'm pretty sure one of them is some sort of variant of DA/SA with the decocker on top of the slide.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 6:24:09 PM
Yeah, I've got three P99s, just wasn't aware that they changed it for the PPQ. From what I've read in the past 24 hours, I'm guessing the PPQ has a trigger like the PPS, which I also enjoy. I can't imagine accidentally firing that.

For the OP. Why don't you carry your PPQ without a round in the chamber, but cocked, for a week or two. If after that, it hasn't dry fired during your normal routine, maybe it will give you confidence that it won't fire if there was a round in the chamber.

Boot.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 11:31:42 PM

Originally Posted By MacBlackboot:
Yeah, I've got three P99s, just wasn't aware that they changed it for the PPQ. From what I've read in the past 24 hours, I'm guessing the PPQ has a trigger like the PPS, which I also enjoy. I can't imagine accidentally firing that.

For the OP. Why don't you carry your PPQ without a round in the chamber, but cocked, for a week or two. If after that, it hasn't dry fired during your normal routine, maybe it will give you confidence that it won't fire if there was a round in the chamber.

Boot.

From the op's comments I didn't get that he was afraid to carry as much as he was addressing a safety issue while holstering, I figured he read a few story's about " glock leg" and was thinking how to safely holster. It's not a bad idea if it's not a mechanism to block the fireing pin...it's more of a passive safety like how the triker marker works on the PPS....well anyways that's what I got from his post..lol

I would....NEVER suggest carrying with an empty chamber....that's a huge no no, for EDC
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Posted: 7/26/2012 3:31:09 PM
Originally Posted By tommytomaso:

Originally Posted By MacBlackboot:
Yeah, I've got three P99s, just wasn't aware that they changed it for the PPQ. From what I've read in the past 24 hours, I'm guessing the PPQ has a trigger like the PPS, which I also enjoy. I can't imagine accidentally firing that.

For the OP. Why don't you carry your PPQ without a round in the chamber, but cocked, for a week or two. If after that, it hasn't dry fired during your normal routine, maybe it will give you confidence that it won't fire if there was a round in the chamber.

Boot.

From the op's comments I didn't get that he was afraid to carry as much as he was addressing a safety issue while holstering, I figured he read a few story's about " glock leg" and was thinking how to safely holster. It's not a bad idea if it's not a mechanism to block the fireing pin...it's more of a passive safety like how the triker marker works on the PPS....well anyways that's what I got from his post..lol

I would....NEVER suggest carrying with an empty chamber....that's a huge no no, for EDC


You got it. Press the safety in while holstering; thats the only time it is used.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 1:05:27 AM
I think the biggest thing is making sure it wouldn't put itself on safe randomly. I'm fine with it like it is but there's always someone who may like it.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 10:44:49 PM
Safety...is probably the wrong term... More like a trigger counter lever. If Im understanding the op correctly as you holster your weapon you put your thumb on the back of the slide...as you holster if something got in the trigger area a post would start to press into your thumb..if you press down you keep the pistol from shooting...or just stop holstering and see what was catching the trigger.

The PPS has said system and it works great....it also tells you if the fireing pin is in the ready possition... I like it a lot on the PPS ...and I wished it was on the PPQ...it doesn't have the ability from what I can see to fail and stop the pistol from firing.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:05:21 AM
Easy problem to fix, look at the damn gun when you holster it!