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Posted: 8/1/2017 3:55:10 PM EDT
Guys, here’s an unbiased review of the Shield RMS sight (with Glock plate bundle)
I used my own hard-earned money on this thing. Though, if Shield ever sees this review and wants to fix all of the issues I’ve seen and send me one free of charge, they merely need to contact me at cowboytacticalgear(AT)gmail.com. Or if they want to send me millions of dollars, or whatever. If they want to sue me for defamation, my email is [email protected] I haven’t shaken it out like I’d like to because I just moved from the country (where I shot a lot) to a city (where apparently no one sees the capitalistic opportunity to have a good range) But I’ve put 86rds through it just to see how it shoots. I know that’s jack squat, but it’s a 30 min range session at an indoor range. I’ll report back after 1000rds - or battery failure, whichever one comes first. Ordering First, I’ve been looking at this since the Firearm Blog (I think?) reported on it some time back. They’ve long had polymer Micro sights, but this was (as far as I know) their first aluminum offering. As soon as I noticed it on their website, I ordered it straight from them. The total cost, with shipping was £300.00 GBP With an exchange rate of 1 USD = 0.76 GBP that put my USD cost to $394.95 USD When I ordered, they said to expect a 3-4 week delay because of the high demand. I ordered on June 24th. I received it on July 28 at 3:15pm. That’s 5 weeks. 36 days from the time of ordering to the time of delivery. I don’t care that it took longer than expected, but some of you need to plan for this when you order. The sight I got was marked as manufactured in July 2017, so it looks like they’re simply manufacturing as fast as they can to keep up with demand. |
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[#8]
Battery
I love the idea of changing the battery while the optic is mounted. You simply take a 2.5mm allen wrench, push it in from the right side, and the tray comes out. This allen wrench unlatches the lock and pushes the tray out. To keep the battery from falling on the ground, the gun should be upside down when doing this procedure. The battery tray is plastic, and if you put the battery in before installing the sight, you see that the battery is directly exposed to the top of the slide of the pistol. That causes me some pause: knowing that the battery compartment isn’t watertight and sealed. I suppose this is the way they achieve such a low bore-axis - enabling you to sight with factory sights. I’m ok with it, but others may not be. While the sight may be able to withstand water, I doubt the battery itself meets the same specs. It has a reported battery life of 2-3 years. We’ll see. I sharpied the date on the battery. When I have to change it, I’ll let you know. |
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[#9]
The Company/Warranty
I don’t know yet what it’s like to deal with the Shield company at length. I know other offerings give you the peace of mind to have a long history of customer service solutions. But with this thing, if you have problems, it’s not just an overnight delivery a couple of states away. You’re going to have to navigate time zones, and international shipping issues, and then talk to someone in Great Britain about your issues. That’s a big deal for us yanks, so that peace of mind and known-entity may keep you stateside for your micro RDS needs - and if so, I won't be offended. Also, many of us (Americans) have become accustomed to unconditional lifetime warranties. The Shield does not have that. They specifically state that their warranty will only be good for 2 years only for the original purchaser, and only covers manufacturer’s flaws (faults in construction, materials and manufacturing). It does not cover normal wear, misuse, nor negligence. I have a tough time with legal-eze, but it seems to be saying that they will not refund for the sight, only repair and send it back should a warranty issue arise. That’s a turn-off. If Shield is reading this (snowball’s chance, but hey) they need to know that to do business in the tactical market (for lack of a better term) they need to accept the fact that the modus operandi of the industry is an unconditional warranty. That’s just standard. They will never be able to compete in our markets unless they adopt the industry standard warranties. But I’m taking the gamble so you don’t have to. Maybe (hopefully not) I’ll have an issue and will be able to provide you a report of the experience, but, I hope not. |
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[#10]
The Good
Glock MOS mounting plate package Co-witnessing with factory sights - no need for suppressor sights. Constant On function Reported battery life of 2-3 years Ability to change battery while mounted auto-adjustable brightness is super-fast Exactly same width as Glock slide All tools/screws/etc included Good, bright daylight dot Finish matches Glock slide Very very clear lens (no blue tint) Super light (.6 oz!!!) The Bad No manual adjustability - if you're in to that Polymer not glass lens No anti-glare/reflective coating on lens Can see origin led from front The body-sight is taller than a factory Glock rear sight Bad mounting directions Rudimentary packaging Unknown reliability under high round count Unknown customer service model (and shipping to Great Britain should issues arise) Warranty (only 2 years) Body housing rear sight height Summary I really like this sight right now. I reserve the right to see how it performs over the course of time and change my mind. Only thing to do now is shoot it. It’s slim, it’s compact, it’s obviously been thought through as a solution for the Glock MOS slides. It pairs well with the G19 and XC1 for a compact package for CCW. You’re taking a little chance on a company that’s not stateside, but I think for the savings on the sight, the benefits you have in the MOS plate package, and the money saved in not needing suppressor sights, it’s a good sight. Time will tell, however, how it holds up to use and abuse. |
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[#11]
I was thinking about getting one of these. But I want to be able to use it with nods. How bad would it boom at night?
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[#13]
I wish I could answer that.
I can tell you that the auto-adjust is instantaneous. Not gradual or delayed like the RMR. If I'm using it in complete darkness, it's really dim. I flip on the lights and as instantly as the lights come on, the dot adjusts brightness. Pretty great. I couldn't tell you about nods. Like with my camera, nods do funny things to dots. It may not bloom at all under nods. Then again, it may be so bad that you couldn't find the dot. No way of knowing, as I don't have any friends around here with Nods (and mine are in someone else's possession halfway across the country). |
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[#14]
Thanks for the write up and photos. I had a lot interest in this optic, but went with an RMR for my 19. Still considering the Shield RMS for my 43. I could not find any reviews about durability after 500 or 1000 rounds. Hope you have the time and inclination to give peroidic updates as the round count grows.
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[#19]
Looks great! Just picked one of these up. I decided not to get the MOS mount because I had slide work done. What screws will allow me to attach the RMS to the MOS adaptor? Thanks
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[#20]
Could one of you RMS owners do me a solid? Measure from the base of the sight to the bottom of the rear "sight" notch?
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[#21]
Quoted:
I wish I could answer that. I can tell you that the auto-adjust is instantaneous. Not gradual or delayed like the RMR. If I'm using it in complete darkness, it's really dim. I flip on the lights and as instantly as the lights come on, the dot adjusts brightness. Pretty great. I couldn't tell you about nods. Like with my camera, nods do funny things to dots. It may not bloom at all under nods. Then again, it may be so bad that you couldn't find the dot. No way of knowing, as I don't have any friends around here with Nods (and mine are in someone else's possession halfway across the country). View Quote Under night vision (Gen 3 Pinnacle autogated manual gain PVS-14), The dot blooms about like an IR laser. So, I would say it's definitely usable. I'll try it for sure after I mount it up on the Shield low pro Glock 19 MOS plate which is due in the mail tomorrow. |
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[#22]
It occurred to me that I should test again with an illuminator to see if it cleared up the boom.
I was right. It entirely cleared up the image. |
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[#23]
I had the first gen J-Point and had issues with the lens scratching when holstered IWB.... still workable, but just was distracting at the range.
Biggest issue I had was water resistance... is the Shield RMS reliable in the rain? Minor submersion? I went with Trijicons RMR on my carry gun mainly due to water resistance.... if the Shield corrected the issue, I'll likely grab one. |
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[#24]
Question: Does the Shield have click adjustments? Or non-click like the JPoint version?
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[#26]
Did you guys see the rather unflattering review Sage Dynamics did on YouTube?
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[#27]
That video was rough. Still considering one. Ill try really hard not to drop it from shoulder height.
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[#28]
New review from the firearm blog LINK
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