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Posted: 7/15/2012 6:09:07 PM
Originally Posted By armourbl:
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Armourbl- I find your narcissism to be revolting. So not only are you impatient ( based on the few days it took me post) and rude, but also clearly ungracious. Its that attitude that gives arfcom a bad rep as "TOS". Hence why I prefer to post on M4C. I posted a teaser during a busy week to let people know that contact HAS been established with Tony. You are the crappiest judge of character I've seen on here. You don't know jack about me, but you take it upon yourself to assume you do. Maybe you should un-pucker your ass some and get off your greater than high horse! Patience was waiting for 6 months before complaining and only then because all communication was lost from Tony. I never said anything rude. And nothing in this thread has anything to do with being gracious. This is a customer service complaint –– plain and simple. The information you posted doesn't change anything about the situation. He mixed the business capital fronted by his prospective customers with his personal situation. This might have been excusable given the circumstances if it were a timely event. But, again, he continued to take money from people with no ability (more than a year of back log) and no clear intention (no communication) of fulfilling the orders. That is fraud! ben Hahaha because your opinion of me matters SOO much to me and all...  It was you who erroneously misjudged me on false assumptions on the basis of a "teaser" post.
6 months is certainly a long time to wait, especially someone that hardly can maintain their level of patience for an update on arfcom. In that respect, you and I certainly agree on. Tony's actions certainly are not at debate. Everything you said about him is more or less accurate. Granted he wants to clear the backlog, he just doesn't have the means necessarily  . His lack of communication among his customers is quite frankly...disappointing. I stress to him it needs to be done.
In the mean time, I'll stay on my so called "high horse" |
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Posted: 7/15/2012 6:35:07 PM
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By armourbl:
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Armourbl- I find your narcissism to be revolting. So not only are you impatient ( based on the few days it took me post) and rude, but also clearly ungracious. Its that attitude that gives arfcom a bad rep as "TOS". Hence why I prefer to post on M4C. I posted a teaser during a busy week to let people know that contact HAS been established with Tony. You are the crappiest judge of character I've seen on here. You don't know jack about me, but you take it upon yourself to assume you do. Maybe you should un-pucker your ass some and get off your greater than high horse! Patience was waiting for 6 months before complaining and only then because all communication was lost from Tony. I never said anything rude. And nothing in this thread has anything to do with being gracious. This is a customer service complaint –– plain and simple. The information you posted doesn't change anything about the situation. He mixed the business capital fronted by his prospective customers with his personal situation. This might have been excusable given the circumstances if it were a timely event. But, again, he continued to take money from people with no ability (more than a year of back log) and no clear intention (no communication) of fulfilling the orders. That is fraud! ben Hahaha because your opinion of me matters SOO much to me and all... It was you who erroneously misjudged me on false assumptions on the basis of a "teaser" post.
6 months is certainly a long time to wait, especially someone that hardly can maintain their level of patience for an update on arfcom. In that respect, you and I certainly agree on. Tony's actions certainly are not at debate. Everything you said about him is more or less accurate. Granted he wants to clear the backlog, he just doesn't have the means necessarily . His lack of communication among his customers is quite frankly...disappointing. I stress to him it needs to be done.
In the mean time, I'll stay on my so called "high horse" So pointless to even comment further... ben |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 5:46:28 AM
I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account.
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Posted: 7/16/2012 1:42:42 PM
Originally Posted By an_hero:
I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account. Really????? HAHAHA With over a thousand posts and a member since 2009 (before SCW)...yes, I'm a shill account
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Seiran
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Posted: 7/16/2012 1:46:16 PM
Originally Posted By thevibe: Originally Posted By an_hero: I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account. Really????? HAHAHA With over a thousand posts and a member since 2009 (before SCW)...yes, I'm a shill account You need to remember, anyone who is butthurt over this whole situation, automatically claim that anyone who has either received their order or supports Tony are either in on his "scam" or a fake account setup by him. |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 1:57:05 PM
[Last Edit: 7/16/2012 2:00:31 PM by thevibe]
Originally Posted By Seiran:
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By an_hero:
I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account. Really????? HAHAHA With over a thousand posts and a member since 2009 (before SCW)...yes, I'm a shill account
You need to remember, anyone who is butthurt over this whole situation, automatically claim that anyone who has either received their order or supports Tony are either in on his "scam" or a fake account setup by him. So before any research, you are assuming I'm bias, even though in my previous posts I have presented the evidence that I am clearly not. If you read any of the posts...I am clearly not supporting Tony or SCW...no way. Go back and read. Sounds like Tony will go out of his way to make numerous posts under the KY hometown. Go ask anyone in the KY hometown if they have personally met the "thevibe". It may quell any doubts. At this point, the accusations are NOT based on rhetoric, but rather erroneous assumptions. That is the error of fools. |
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Seiran
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Posted: 7/16/2012 2:27:22 PM
[Last Edit: 7/16/2012 2:41:38 PM by Seiran]
Originally Posted By thevibe: Originally Posted By Seiran: Originally Posted By thevibe: Originally Posted By an_hero: I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account. Really????? HAHAHA With over a thousand posts and a member since 2009 (before SCW)...yes, I'm a shill account You need to remember, anyone who is butthurt over this whole situation, automatically claim that anyone who has either received their order or supports Tony are either in on his "scam" or a fake account setup by him. So before any research, you are assuming I'm bias, even though in my previous posts I have presented the evidence that I am clearly not. If you read any of the posts...I am clearly not supporting Tony or SCW...no way. Go back and read. Sounds like Tony will go out of his way to make numerous posts under the KY hometown. Go ask anyone in the KY hometown if they have personally met the "thevibe". It may quell any doubts. At this point, the accusations are NOT based on rhetoric, but rather erroneous assumptions. That is the error of fools.  You completely misunderstood my post brother vibe. However, since my posts meaning was lost on you, I will elaborate:- There are some poeple in this thread pissed beyond measure, and are calling Tony a thief and a scam artist. - There have been a few people who have defended and/or had a positive experience with Tony in regards to their orders [Such as our low post count friend] and have been attacked as being "in on the scam" or are just Tony under an alternate account. - You yourself were attacked as being a shill account when you are not. - I pointed out the fact [sarcastically] that people get attacked in this thread for defending Tony or being seen as being on his side [You contacted Tony, and came here to tell his side of the story with his blessing. Some would see that as you being on his side. I don't see it that way, I see it as you passing along a message.] So, while you think I was attacking you, you are wrong. I apologize for any confusion. |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 2:39:32 PM
[Last Edit: 7/16/2012 2:40:24 PM by thevibe]
Originally Posted By Seiran:
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By Seiran:
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By an_hero:
I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account. Really????? HAHAHA With over a thousand posts and a member since 2009 (before SCW)...yes, I'm a shill account
You need to remember, anyone who is butthurt over this whole situation, automatically claim that anyone who has either received their order or supports Tony are either in on his "scam" or a fake account setup by him. So before any research, you are assuming I'm bias, even though in my previous posts I have presented the evidence that I am clearly not. If you read any of the posts...I am clearly not supporting Tony or SCW...no way. Go back and read. Sounds like Tony will go out of his way to make numerous posts under the KY hometown. Go ask anyone in the KY hometown if they have personally met the "thevibe". It may quell any doubts. At this point, the accusations are NOT based on rhetoric, but rather erroneous assumptions. That is the error of fools. You completely misunderstood my post brother vibe.
I mean it when I say this,but $hit I am terribly sorry, I apologize if i misinterpreted it. |
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Seiran
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Posted: 7/16/2012 2:42:10 PM
Originally Posted By thevibe: Originally Posted By Seiran: Originally Posted By thevibe: Originally Posted By Seiran: Originally Posted By thevibe: Originally Posted By an_hero: I'm pretty sure thevibe is and always has been a shill account. Really????? HAHAHA With over a thousand posts and a member since 2009 (before SCW)...yes, I'm a shill account You need to remember, anyone who is butthurt over this whole situation, automatically claim that anyone who has either received their order or supports Tony are either in on his "scam" or a fake account setup by him. So before any research, you are assuming I'm bias, even though in my previous posts I have presented the evidence that I am clearly not. If you read any of the posts...I am clearly not supporting Tony or SCW...no way. Go back and read. Sounds like Tony will go out of his way to make numerous posts under the KY hometown. Go ask anyone in the KY hometown if they have personally met the "thevibe". It may quell any doubts. At this point, the accusations are NOT based on rhetoric, but rather erroneous assumptions. That is the error of fools. You completely misunderstood my post brother vibe. I mean it when I say this,but $hit I am terribly sorry, I apologize if i misinterpreted it.  It's all good man. No worries. |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 10:21:40 PM
So back to the topic at hand...
When can we expect Tony to speak for himself? I'm guessing never. ben |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 11:09:10 PM
Originally Posted By armourbl:
So back to the topic at hand... When can we expect Tony to speak for himself? I'm guessing never. ben Ayup. |
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Posted: 7/19/2012 10:17:12 PM
[Last Edit: 7/19/2012 10:19:37 PM by bigtexan11764]
I sent seraph a pm on 4/30/2012 that still shows he has not read it. It seems likely he is not reading the comments on this site or his pms.
It is what it is. 
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Posted: 7/20/2012 1:57:00 AM
After the long post about Tonys situation.... I do feel for anyone in that situation including Tony.. But then why did he continue to take new orders? and why didn't he just put that or similar information up on his web page?
20,000 30,000 1 million... If I'm selling holsters for 90$. The 90$ better cover each and every part for each holster. Basically he spent our money and didn't fill our orders? |
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:24:03 PM
Originally Posted By Dlow:
After the long post about Tonys situation.... I do feel for anyone in that situation including Tony.. But then why did he continue to take new orders? and why didn't he just put that or similar information up on his web page? 20,000 30,000 1 million... If I'm selling holsters for 90$. The 90$ better cover each and every part for each holster. Basically he spent our money and didn't fill our orders? Exactly! ben |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 12:54:53 PM
This will probably end up overlooked by many, but you all should really ignore the posts made by "thevibe"
He just posted in another thread actually recommending people to place orders with Secret City Weaponeers. Good by credibility... ben |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 5:10:20 PM
[Last Edit: 7/21/2012 5:13:21 PM by thevibe]
Originally Posted By armourbl:
This will probably end up overlooked by many, but you all should really ignore the posts made by "thevibe" He just posted in another thread actually recommending people to place orders with Secret City Weaponeers. Good by credibility... ben Stalking again I see...creepy Note: I recommended belt loops...not their holsters. No way that will take months Belt Loops... |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 7:14:10 PM
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By armourbl:
This will probably end up overlooked by many, but you all should really ignore the posts made by "thevibe" He just posted in another thread actually recommending people to place orders with Secret City Weaponeers. Good by credibility... ben Stalking again I see...creepy Note: I recommended belt loops...not their holsters. No way that will take months Belt Loops... I knew you'd think I'm stalking you. It doesn't matter what you recommend from SCW. Point remains the same. ben |
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Posted: 7/22/2012 1:37:56 PM
The vibe was posting SCW advertisements on pretty much every forum pertaining to handguns before the K25 was released. I've always suspected it was either Tony or a business partner.
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Posted: 7/22/2012 2:12:07 PM
[Last Edit: 7/22/2012 2:13:53 PM by thevibe]
Originally Posted By an_hero:
The vibe was posting SCW advertisements on pretty much every forum pertaining to handguns before the K25 was released. I've always suspected it was either Tony or a business partner. Neither of which is true... |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:03:13 AM
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By an_hero:
The vibe was posting SCW advertisements on pretty much every forum pertaining to handguns before the K25 was released. I've always suspected it was either Tony or a business partner. Neither of which is true... So you're just a paid shill? |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 9:26:08 AM
Originally Posted By thevibe:
Originally Posted By an_hero:
The vibe was posting SCW advertisements on pretty much every forum pertaining to handguns before the K25 was released. I've always suspected it was either Tony or a business partner. Neither of which is true... Well tony's never lied to anyone........ So I trust this guy.
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Posted: 7/30/2012 7:57:09 PM
Needs a bump.
Any new word from any customers who have been waiting on product, refunds, or communication? ben |
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socommatthews
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Posted: 7/30/2012 10:52:19 PM
No but he's posted on Facebook recently.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 1:33:21 AM
Wow. Tony is a real piece of work.
I'm blocked from posting on his facebook now to once again demand my money back. Still no replies to any of the 6 emails I sent. All my comments I left on the page warning others of his business practices are gone. FSCW |
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Posted: 8/2/2012 11:12:26 PM
Wow.
I had seriously considered ordering a couple of holsters just due to a "home town proximity" vibe as I grew up near where he lives... But I think, for the time being, I shall pass. Back in line at Raven and Putbull untill he gets his business straightened out.  |
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