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Posted: 7/15/2016 3:07:26 PM EDT
I've got a good bit put away, but realized it's all FMJ target/plinking stuff. Not looking to spend a ton of money, but what's a good valued round I can get a couple hundred (at least) of to stack up. I was looking at 500 rounds of the Silver Bear 145 HP. The main handgun is a Glock 19, and it loves Silver Bear but never shot the HP's. Good choice or go with something else for a tad more?
ETA: This won't be for EDC, I have Hornady Critical Defense for that application. It'll just be for stacking some away that isn't FMJ plinking ammo. |
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Not deep at all, but 800 rounds of Hornady 5.56 75 gr T2, 500 rounds of Speer .223 GD 64gr, and 400 rounds of Hotnady 5.56 75 gr SBR. And... I'm out of money, even though I got really good deals on all of it. Good enough for now, decent split between barrier blind and OTM ammo. I want more, though, because as we get close to November, I think it will get really tough to get more at decent prices. The T2 shoots best (consistently accurate) from my suppressed SBR.
ETA: Ooops, wrong kind of ammo. 1200 rounds 147gr HST, 1000 rounds 124gr HST, 500 rounds Winchester RA9T, 800 rounds Speer GD 124 gr. All 9mm for my handguns and 9mm Colt form suppressed SBR. And still out of money! |
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I stack GDHP's and HST's when it's cheap and always in 147 weight. I have others too that I have bought cheap and replaced boxes of FMJ's with JHP's so they can all be of more use to me for defensive purposes.
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Hornady American Gunner xtp is inexpensive, so is whitebox Federal Hi Shok and Winchester White Box. The construction of silver bear may not allow it to expand. You can wait for HST or Gold Dot to go on sale for 20 a box of 50.
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I recently bought a couple hundred 115gr gold dots for $25/50 with free shipping.
I think I'm going to try and grab a case of GDHP or HST's the next time I see them on sale. |
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Hey, you guys know that Massammo has 147gr HST (P9HST2) for $420 for 1000 rounds, right? Pretty good deal even with $13 shipping.
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Speer Gold Dots and Federal HST are my favorites and use ammoseek to look for them.
I've been trying to stock up and not get caught like after the last scares. |
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Fiocchi 124grn Hollow Points. Not the more expensive HST topped ones either. I think these are 14 dollars per box of 50. Nose cavity is kind of small and I need to get some into some water jugs to see how they expand/hold together. I think I'm sitting on 300 of them right now because I wanted to check reliability at pistol matches (so far so good). Maybe I'll send them off to get someone else to test a few of them.
Most of my pistol stock is either 124grn poly coated round nose reloads or brown/silver bear 115 grn FMJ blasting ammo. |
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Fiocchi 124grn Hollow Points. Not the more expensive HST topped ones either. I think these are 14 dollars per box of 50. Nose cavity is kind of small and I need to get some into some water jugs to see how they expand/hold together. I think I'm sitting on 300 of them right now because I wanted to check reliability at pistol matches (so far so good). Maybe I'll send them off to get someone else to test a few of them. Most of my pistol stock is either 124grn poly coated round nose reloads or brown/silver bear 115 grn FMJ blasting ammo. View Quote |
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I carry HSTs and keep 2-3 boxes on hand. I buy a box or 2 of hishoks whenever I order if its available. Usually around $15 per 50. After that Id use 147 fp that I use for woods carry, then 9mm nato, then plinking ammo would get called up. If
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You're thinking of XTP's as Fiocchi doesn't load HST's. Between the 3 I have shot the uniform expansion is consistent and I'd call 13.6 into sim-test gel good enough for a 147 standard non bonded JHP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fiocchi 124grn Hollow Points. Not the more expensive HST topped ones either. I think these are 14 dollars per box of 50. Nose cavity is kind of small and I need to get some into some water jugs to see how they expand/hold together. I think I'm sitting on 300 of them right now because I wanted to check reliability at pistol matches (so far so good). Maybe I'll send them off to get someone else to test a few of them. Most of my pistol stock is either 124grn poly coated round nose reloads or brown/silver bear 115 grn FMJ blasting ammo. Yup that's the one I was talking about XTP. But the one I've got a few hundred rounds of isn't that stuff. Fiocchi 9APBHP 50 round box 124grn JHP Edit I wonder what this S&B 124 grn Soft Point would look like fired into some gel. |
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Federal 9MS 147gr jhp. Got it from sgammo from about $300 a case. Certainly doesn't compare to HST's or golddots but it's nice knowing I've got some proven hollow points set back just in case.
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Yup that's the one I was talking about XTP. But the one I've got a few hundred rounds of isn't that stuff. Fiocchi 9APBHP 50 round box 124grn JHP Edit I wonder what this S&B 124 grn Soft Point would look like fired into some gel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fiocchi 124grn Hollow Points. Not the more expensive HST topped ones either. I think these are 14 dollars per box of 50. Nose cavity is kind of small and I need to get some into some water jugs to see how they expand/hold together. I think I'm sitting on 300 of them right now because I wanted to check reliability at pistol matches (so far so good). Maybe I'll send them off to get someone else to test a few of them. Most of my pistol stock is either 124grn poly coated round nose reloads or brown/silver bear 115 grn FMJ blasting ammo. Yup that's the one I was talking about XTP. But the one I've got a few hundred rounds of isn't that stuff. Fiocchi 9APBHP 50 round box 124grn JHP Edit I wonder what this S&B 124 grn Soft Point would look like fired into some gel. |
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I have a partial box of 124gr Gold Dots. They are (+P) so that counts for something, right?
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I've got my 1500 rounds of 9BPLE and about 200 of the Winchester flavor. That's all I need for carry ammo.
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A couple different brands loaded with XTP bullets across all calibers I have (380, 9, and 45).
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9mm and 45ACP Gold Dots and HST. 124gr in 9mm and 230gr in 45ACP.
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Hmm...I have a stack of bullet moulds, a few hundred pounds of lead, brass laying everywhere and enough powder and primers for a few thousand rounds. Bring on November.
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Just a few thousand? You're doing it wrong and this is not how it works View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hmm...I have a stack of bullet moulds, a few hundred pounds of lead, brass laying everywhere and enough powder and primers for a few thousand rounds. Bring on November. Stacking accomplishes nothing. Shooting the stack down, however, does. |
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Stacking accomplishes nothing. Shooting the stack down, however, does. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hmm...I have a stack of bullet moulds, a few hundred pounds of lead, brass laying everywhere and enough powder and primers for a few thousand rounds. Bring on November. Stacking accomplishes nothing. Shooting the stack down, however, does. I've made 500 on my own already using nickel cases and GDHP, XTP, and HST's whenever RMR has them to sell already pulled. My goal is to make it to 1,200 and set it aside to not use until maybe ten years later when I can start replenishing and turn over old to make room for the new. |
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For pistol the bulk of the stash is reloads in 230 grn fmj. Although I use Ranger 230grn HP for EDC. For rifle it would be a clone of the Mk 262 mod 2 also reloads. Next to that would be Hornady 75 gr n BTHP T1. Both are loaded to near 5.56 pressure as best as I can tell from crono them.
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OP: I would not consider the Silver Bear HP's to be defensive ammo. I've shot a few boxes of the 9mm and .40S&W JHP versions. Both were fairly low power, both had ignition issues (possibly hard primers), and based simply on visual inspection I would expect that neither HP would be very effective. FWIW I regularly enjoy shooting Silver Bear FMJ in pistol and rifle for plinking purposes.
Here is my recommendation for stacking up defensive ammo. For each caliber stick with one bullet weight. After that, shop around and buy what's on sale when you have a few extra bucks. Personally, I think your good if you have 500 rounds of quality ammo of the same weight (less important to have 500 rounds of exactly the same ammo). I prefer HST, Gold Dot, and XTP bullets loaded by a variety of companies. For reasonable priced generic defensive ammo look at Winchester White Box and Federal Hi-Shok. Places like Mass Ammo and PSA will run some great deals or closeouts if you keep your eyes open. |
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I don't really stack defense ammo too deep, mostly just plinking ammo. Most of what I have put back for defense is Winchester ranger bonded in 9 and .40.
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View Quote Practically giving away top shelf ammo. Anyone that has a need for .40 should be all over this like white on rice on a paper plate in a snowstorm. |
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I don't "stack deep" defense ammo. But I do have about 750 combined of gold dots and HST in 9, and about 300 gold dots and Hornady in 38. Plus maybe 70 or so 357 golden sabers.
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147gr HSTs for my pistols and cheap HiShoks for the MP5 clone.
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View Quote Sweet baby jesus I may buy a .40 just so I can buy those. I'd buy a case right now that price is nuts. |
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Hmm...I have a stack of bullet moulds, a few hundred pounds of lead, brass laying everywhere and enough powder and primers for a few thousand rounds. Bring on November. Stacking accomplishes nothing. Shooting the stack down, however, does. This so true!!! Me I'm stacking what ever I can fine. At a decent price! I do not think the Zombies care what I hit them with! And if other thing come up! We do not have to comply with the 19th century treaty either!!! PITA45 |
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