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Posted: 9/8/2015 10:25:36 PM EDT
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Full power ammunition won't be found from the big 3 American ammunition manufacturers. Their stuff is expensive and weak. If you want full power 10mm you need to go with Double Tap, Underwood etc... Or load your own. Sig has a couple of new loads on the market but I haven't tried them yet. There is a pretty good 10mm specific forum, google it you'll find it.
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Posted: 9/9/2015 6:28:59 PM EDT
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I have used some Remington 10mm that was pretty hot but in general store bought 10mm is weak. Remeber there are some 1911 10mms that are not capable of handling anything too hot; the G20 can.
Google 10mm chart. There is a nice chart on thefiringline that shows the weight and velocity of different loads. My work computer will not let me link. |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 7:55:14 PM EDT
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Underwood is about as hot as it gets. Their 180 XTP does ~1325FPS from my G20. (With 22lb SS RSA from Glockmeister)
Hornady is medium. Definitely 10mm territory, but not screaming like Underwood. I get ~1125FPS with 180 XTP's from my little G29. (This is my EDC setup) Sig is hot. Not Underwood hot, but it's got some punch. More so than Hornady. Armscor is on par with Sig. Solid 10mm power. PPU is incredibly weak. It barely fell out of my ejection port. Also had very hard primers and was quite dirty. Good for malf drills... PMC is on par with Hornady. The 200's shot very well for me. |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 11:04:01 PM EDT
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Underwood is about as hot as it gets. Their 180 XTP does ~1325FPS from my G20. (With 22lb SS RSA from Glockmeister) Hornady is medium. Definitely 10mm territory, but not screaming like Underwood. I get ~1125FPS with 180 XTP's from my little G29. (This is my EDC setup) Sig is hot. Not Underwood hot, but it's got some punch. More so than Hornady. Armscor is on par with Sig. Solid 10mm power. PPU is incredibly weak. It barely fell out of my ejection port. Also had very hard primers and was quite dirty. Good for malf drills... PMC is on par with Hornady. The 200's shot very well for me. That's weird I chronographed some armscor a few weeks ago and it only averaged 953fps. |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 2:47:26 PM EDT
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That's weird I chronographed some armscor a few weeks ago and it only averaged 953fps. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Underwood is about as hot as it gets. Their 180 XTP does ~1325FPS from my G20. (With 22lb SS RSA from Glockmeister) Hornady is medium. Definitely 10mm territory, but not screaming like Underwood. I get ~1125FPS with 180 XTP's from my little G29. (This is my EDC setup) Sig is hot. Not Underwood hot, but it's got some punch. More so than Hornady. Armscor is on par with Sig. Solid 10mm power. PPU is incredibly weak. It barely fell out of my ejection port. Also had very hard primers and was quite dirty. Good for malf drills... PMC is on par with Hornady. The 200's shot very well for me. That's weird I chronographed some armscor a few weeks ago and it only averaged 953fps. Was it the new Armscor USA? newer box design? The older stuff that was made overseas wasn't very good IIRC. |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 6:45:16 PM EDT
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Corbon 135gr is very hot and has performed well.
I hear excellent stuff about their DPX ammo. I'd likely stick to 135-155 gr for home defense in my G20 |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 7:11:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2015 7:14:26 PM EDT
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Full power ammunition won't be found from the big 3 American ammunition manufacturers. Their stuff is expensive and weak. If you want full power 10mm you need to go with Double Tap, Underwood etc... Or load your own. Sig has a couple of new loads on the market but I haven't tried them yet. There is a pretty good 10mm specific forum, google it you'll find it. The SIG V-Crown did pretty well: 
Federal's 180 gr Trophy Bonded JSP is full power.
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Posted: 9/11/2015 7:15:00 PM EDT
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I have used some Remington 10mm that was pretty hot but in general store bought 10mm is weak. Remeber there are some 1911 10mms that are not capable of handling anything too hot; the G20 can. Google 10mm chart. There is a nice chart on thefiringline that shows the weight and velocity of different loads. My work computer will not let me link. It's a good idea to get a fully supported after market barrel for Glocks. |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 7:18:11 PM EDT
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Corbon 135gr is very hot and has performed well. I hear excellent stuff about their DPX ammo. I'd likely stick to 135-155 gr for home defense in my G20 No lead core 135 gr 10mm will meet minimum penetration requirements for defense. |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 11:34:14 PM EDT
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Was it the new Armscor USA? newer box design? The older stuff that was made overseas wasn't very good IIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Underwood is about as hot as it gets. Their 180 XTP does ~1325FPS from my G20. (With 22lb SS RSA from Glockmeister) Hornady is medium. Definitely 10mm territory, but not screaming like Underwood. I get ~1125FPS with 180 XTP's from my little G29. (This is my EDC setup) Sig is hot. Not Underwood hot, but it's got some punch. More so than Hornady. Armscor is on par with Sig. Solid 10mm power. PPU is incredibly weak. It barely fell out of my ejection port. Also had very hard primers and was quite dirty. Good for malf drills... PMC is on par with Hornady. The 200's shot very well for me. That's weird I chronographed some armscor a few weeks ago and it only averaged 953fps. Was it the new Armscor USA? newer box design? The older stuff that was made overseas wasn't very good IIRC. Yup, the new packaging. I thought maybe my chrono was screwy so I fired a few round s of 9mm that I knew the velocity of and the chrono was reading correctly. |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 11:46:18 PM EDT
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Yup, the new packaging. I thought maybe my chrono was screwy so I fired a few round s of 9mm that I knew the velocity of and the chrono was reading correctly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Underwood is about as hot as it gets. Their 180 XTP does ~1325FPS from my G20. (With 22lb SS RSA from Glockmeister) Hornady is medium. Definitely 10mm territory, but not screaming like Underwood. I get ~1125FPS with 180 XTP's from my little G29. (This is my EDC setup) Sig is hot. Not Underwood hot, but it's got some punch. More so than Hornady. Armscor is on par with Sig. Solid 10mm power. PPU is incredibly weak. It barely fell out of my ejection port. Also had very hard primers and was quite dirty. Good for malf drills... PMC is on par with Hornady. The 200's shot very well for me. That's weird I chronographed some armscor a few weeks ago and it only averaged 953fps. Was it the new Armscor USA? newer box design? The older stuff that was made overseas wasn't very good IIRC. Yup, the new packaging. I thought maybe my chrono was screwy so I fired a few round s of 9mm that I knew the velocity of and the chrono was reading correctly. Odd. Mine felt very toasty and ejected with authority. Weak lot maybe? |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 8:28:52 AM EDT
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It's a good idea to get a fully supported after market barrel for Glocks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have used some Remington 10mm that was pretty hot but in general store bought 10mm is weak. Remeber there are some 1911 10mms that are not capable of handling anything too hot; the G20 can. Google 10mm chart. There is a nice chart on thefiringline that shows the weight and velocity of different loads. My work computer will not let me link. It's a good idea to get a fully supported after market barrel for Glocks. The newer barrels are much better than the old. I haven't bothered replacing my gen 4 model 20 barrel. If I was going to shoot a lot of hot ammo through my G20, I would get an aftermarket rod with a heavier recoil spring. 22lbs works pretty well for hot 10mm. |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 11:34:28 PM EDT
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Some of the newer Glock barrels have as great of case support as aftermarket barrels.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 1:16:13 AM EDT
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Good to know. Gen 3 SF?
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Posted: 9/17/2015 3:27:24 AM EDT
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The newer barrels are much better than the old. I haven't bothered replacing my gen 4 model 20 barrel. If I was going to shoot a lot of hot ammo through my G20, I would get an aftermarket rod with a heavier recoil spring. 22lbs works pretty well for hot 10mm. What is a specific make / model of a 22 lb spring / RSA that will work in a G20 gen 4? Will it also work with the light loads or will I have to switch out springs depending on the ammo? Thank you and everyone for the help so far 
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Posted: 9/17/2015 9:50:20 PM EDT
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What is a specific make / model of a 22 lb spring / RSA that will work in a G20 gen 4? Will it also work with the light loads or will I have to switch out springs depending on the ammo? Thank you and everyone for the help so far
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The newer barrels are much better than the old. I haven't bothered replacing my gen 4 model 20 barrel. If I was going to shoot a lot of hot ammo through my G20, I would get an aftermarket rod with a heavier recoil spring. 22lbs works pretty well for hot 10mm. What is a specific make / model of a 22 lb spring / RSA that will work in a G20 gen 4? Will it also work with the light loads or will I have to switch out springs depending on the ammo? Thank you and everyone for the help so far
I can't think of the name but there is an adapter sold so you can use gen 3 rods in a gen 4 Glock. |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 7:00:10 AM EDT
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Full power ammunition won't be found from the big 3 American ammunition manufacturers. How does this not count? 
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Posted: 9/20/2015 1:04:50 PM EDT
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How does this not count? http://img-realtree.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_scaled/public/content/essays/federal_1.jpg?itok=LfT8qllv Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Full power ammunition won't be found from the big 3 American ammunition manufacturers. How does this not count? http://img-realtree.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_scaled/public/content/essays/federal_1.jpg?itok=LfT8qllv Because it cannot be found ANYWHERE. Ask me how I know. 
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Posted: 9/21/2015 10:04:58 PM EDT
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How does this not count? http://img-realtree.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_scaled/public/content/essays/federal_1.jpg?itok=LfT8qllv Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Full power ammunition won't be found from the big 3 American ammunition manufacturers. How does this not count? http://img-realtree.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_scaled/public/content/essays/federal_1.jpg?itok=LfT8qllv They make it but I can never find it. I have never even seen a box. Usual online places are always out. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 5:38:36 PM EDT
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Good to know. Gen 3 SF? My gen 3 sf has never had an issue with any hot loads including several different hot loads from underwood and BB..mines bone stock .... |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 10:16:52 AM EDT
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Join us here: http://10mm-firearms.com Everything you had no idea you wanted to know about 10mm factory ammo: 10mm stats spreadsheet The largest collection of 10mm gel tests that I know of: 10mm gel tests Thanks Txl |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 11:30:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:PPU is incredibly weak. It barely fell out of my ejection port. Also had very hard primers and was quite dirty. Good for malf drills... 
Way to see the silver lining! I somehow think the ammo manufacturer won't use that in their advertising. 
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Posted: 12/15/2015 1:41:03 PM EDT
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How does this not count? http://img-realtree.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_scaled/public/content/essays/federal_1.jpg?itok=LfT8qllv Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Full power ammunition won't be found from the big 3 American ammunition manufacturers. How does this not count? http://img-realtree.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_scaled/public/content/essays/federal_1.jpg?itok=LfT8qllv I would love to try this stuff, but as others have said, its vaporware |
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