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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:46:55 PM EDT
Anyone shoot this? I've heard varying things about the expansion of these. Was curious if anyone had any first hand knowledge.
Link Posted: 7/11/2015 11:57:12 PM EDT
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I tested these against water, and got no expansion from a 4.95" barrel.



Link Posted: 7/12/2015 12:48:35 AM EDT
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I tested these against water, and got no expansion from a 4.95" barrel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBCotBV1KXo


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I saw that video. That's why I'm questioning the ammo. Thanks for posting that up.
Link Posted: 7/12/2015 1:14:21 PM EDT
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If it won't expand in water, it definitely won't expand in people.
Link Posted: 7/13/2015 9:29:47 AM EDT
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So why no expansion? Design flaw?
Link Posted: 7/13/2015 11:40:19 PM EDT
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Lack of velocity? I would imagine these were designed for pistols though?



 
Link Posted: 7/14/2015 8:43:48 AM EDT
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Lack of velocity? I would imagine these were designed for pistols though?
 
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Lack of velocity? I would imagine these were designed for pistols though?
 



What I could find is that they were made for the UZI supposedly. There is one Youtube video(barely) of 20 seconds showing a shot through ballistic gelatin. They don't however show the recovered round. Was curious about it since the price point is fairly good for hollow point. I've been looking for a good defensive round for my 9mm's and have pretty much settled on Federal HST in either 124 or 147 gr. I am willing to look at other products if the performance is there. I've read good thinks about there 115 gr. FMJ, and figure I get some for range use, but not much review/info regarding the EX STAR.
Link Posted: 7/17/2015 9:57:56 PM EDT
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Is this the same round loaded in the blue and white Independence boxes being sold at Academy sports?
Link Posted: 7/17/2015 11:44:24 PM EDT
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Yes they are. The box even states it's made in Israel. Interesting note is the the cases are stamped with F C. I don't know who made the cases (possibly IMI themselves), but it definately wasn't Federal.
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