for self defense?

They're relatively new I don't think you'll find much. I've posted the question before too regarding the 230 gr 45 ACP version. It's been said to be a relabeling of the UMC JHPs. I've done a water jug test with 4 layer denim and it went through 4 milk jugs and a phonebook. Complete 100% failure to expand probably clogging. I believe there's better stuff out there and this is potentially your life we're talking about so why not buy some higher end stuff?

ETA: Just wanted to note that the type of test I conducted is VERY unscientific and very subject to variances. Honestly I don't believe that it was a very reliable test and I won't bother with them again. I've seen people get bullets to expand on youTube with milk jugs filled with water but I digress. Also test was conducted using a 3.5" Citadel Compact tactical so velocity could have been a factor.

If its the same as the UMC hollow points I suggest you avoid them.

+1

To the other poster

really it a older bullet  re package

+2

I'll be a bit more generous and say it's a repackaged Express loading.  Not much of an improvement over UMC, which says a lot.  This stuff used to be duty ammo years ago, loaded pretty hot but muzzle flash like nothing you've ever seen.  I swear there was flame coming out of the breech as the slide started moving to the rear, it was so bad.  Shooting in low light was like having a camera flash in your face every time you pulled the trigger.  Not a good SD load.

Ive seen some of the older rem loads do pretty well in testing
some  manage not to plug up

The .357mag has one of the best one shot stop rates recorded.






 

I use to carry a m19 loaded with federal 125gr SLHP
Boy was I stupid back then.