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Posted: 2/28/2014 11:16:53 AM EDT
I haven't seen any on Gunbot in months, let alone the +P.
Does anyone know what's going on? Normally it seemed they'd cycle production between 124gr and 147gr, now it's hard enough to find the LE packs of 124gr at the usual sites and everything else is >$1.00/rd.
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https://ammo2u.com/products/best-deal-sale-items/federal-hst-9mm-premium-tactical.html
Best I could find. Reasonable shipping too. |
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Thanks. Not bad total cost at all.
I've seen 124gr periodically pop up for around $0.60/rd. But 147gr seems to have disappeared entirely since summer.
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Yep. Its cuz people like me will buy EVERY BOX when it finally shows up. Because we dont want others like us having all the fun lol
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I think the HST stuff is done in seasonal runs. I've been seeing a lot of the 124gr stuff but I'm sure in a couple of months we'll be seen a lot of 147 and hardly any 124
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124 gr HST is probably more available because it's not on this list.
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I don't think I've seen 147gr since July or August. It seemed up until then to be done in runs that alternated about every month. Usually stuff will hang around on gunbot for a few days at least even after it's sold out, just moving to the bottom of the list, but I haven't seen it even pop up.
As for being bought up quickly, again it would still show up on gunbot like the good deals on quality range ammo that AIM or Cabela's would have last year that would sell out before I could remember my login password... but high end stuff never sold out in seconds and there would still be a record of it having been available. It's clearly not even reaching civilian dealers. The only thing I can imagine is enough gov't agencies are finally turned on to the stuff and therefore the entire supply is being sucked up by them before it can hit the surplus channels or the Personal Defense packages. Does anyone have inside info on Federal's supply/demand outlook for these loads? |
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My WAG is that with the recent increase in the number of LE agencies switching over to the 9mm, a good many are choosing the 147gr HST for their duty load as it is less expensive than the bonded WW loads and works about as well.
But I could be wrong. |
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Quoted: My WAG is that with the recent increase in the number of LE agencies switching over to the 9mm, a good many are choosing the 147gr HST for their duty load as it is less expensive than the bonded WW loads and works about as well. But I could be wrong. View Quote Know of any others? I'm curious.
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View Quote Snagged some late last night, lol. I should have started this thread months ago 'cause doesn't that just figure. Still want the +P, damnit, but that shit was rare already.
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I dont think LEOs get to buy before we do. Seperate channels, but I dont think they get priority. Either they had orders in that have just been getting filled OR... Federal is just making what sells the most right now. I know 147 sells fast, but its far less common than 124 gr. If federal made as much 147gr and 124gr, we probably wouldn't see any 124 on the shelves
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Quoted: I dont think LEOs get to buy before we do. Seperate channels, but I dont think they get priority. Either they had orders in that have just been getting filled OR... Federal is just making what sells the most right now. I know 147 sells fast, but its far less common than 124 gr. If federal made as much 147gr and 124gr, we probably wouldn't see any 124 on the shelves View Quote 124gr standard P is Federal's foray into the overpriced 20rd boxes of HST sold directly to the unwashed masses. 147gr has been fairly regularly available in the past as LEO stock overruns, but that's it. 124gr +P is also an LEO only load and equally elusive as of late. So yeah, you could quite accurately say that LEOs get priority and at half the price.
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Interesting thing is that now everyone wants 9mm the price between 9mm and .40 looks to be narrowing. I seem to remember .40 being 50% more expensive than 9mm. Now that gap seems to be about 25%.
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If you can wait a bit, this is a pretty good deal.
http://www.policehq.com/Products/FC-9HST |
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It's hit or miss, the two times I ordered from them, one was on the money and the other took around 6 months or more but that was right after Sandy Hook. Another place to try is http://gtdist.com/ProductDetail.aspx?PartNumber=FC-PXXHSTX |
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Sgammo did have some of the 147 late last year, but it was gone the day it popped up (if not, the very next one). I just sign up for email notifications on all the normal spots and when I get an alert I pounce on it and hope I'm not too late. Still, it works only about half the time...everyone else gets the alerts too
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LOL no. I ordered about 20 different things from them LAST jan and have had a slow trickle coming in over the last 6 months but all the federal stuff still is a no show. |
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Quoted: Sgammo did have some of the 147 late last year, but it was gone the day it popped up (if not, the very next one). I just sign up for email notifications on all the normal spots and when I get an alert I pounce on it and hope I'm not too late. Still, it works only about half the time...everyone else gets the alerts too View Quote Yep
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LOL no. I ordered about 20 different things from them LAST jan and have had a slow trickle coming in over the last 6 months but all the federal stuff still is a no show. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LOL no. I ordered about 20 different things from them LAST jan and have had a slow trickle coming in over the last 6 months but all the federal stuff still is a no show. I have back ordered Since early December '12(pre-sandy) 5 boxes of 147 +P April '13 8 boxes of 230 grain HST .45 8 boxes of 124 grain HST 9mm +P 5 boxes of 147 grain HST 9mm +P So far, I just received the 8 boxes of .45 a few weeks ago. So I suggest you get in line soon. I am tempted to just snag it of SGammo next time it's available |
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I ordered two boxes of the 9mm 147 gr. Standard Pressure HST back in December along with some 180 gr. .40 and 230 gr. .45. Ordered the 28th of December. Got the .40 S&W packed and shipped on the 30th of December. .45 and 9mm got packed and shipped February 28th. Two months on the nose. |
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I have back ordered Since early December '12(pre-sandy) 5 boxes of 147 +P April '13 8 boxes of 230 grain HST .45 8 boxes of 124 grain HST 9mm +P 5 boxes of 147 grain HST 9mm +P So far, I just received the 8 boxes of .45 a few weeks ago. So I suggest you get in line soon. I am tempted to just snag it of SGammo next time it's available View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LOL no. I ordered about 20 different things from them LAST jan and have had a slow trickle coming in over the last 6 months but all the federal stuff still is a no show. I have back ordered Since early December '12(pre-sandy) 5 boxes of 147 +P April '13 8 boxes of 230 grain HST .45 8 boxes of 124 grain HST 9mm +P 5 boxes of 147 grain HST 9mm +P So far, I just received the 8 boxes of .45 a few weeks ago. So I suggest you get in line soon. I am tempted to just snag it of SGammo next time it's available Yep I just got my 3 boxes of .45 HST 230 grn I ordered back in October. Still waiting on .40 Gold Dot and .38 Gold Dot. Been waiting on the .40 since August. Every time they put out a free shipping I order some self defense ammo and let it trickle in over the next year but honestly I could probably order from SG Ammo and get it immediately at about the same price, maybe a few bucks more per box. |
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Right now! http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/50-round-box-9mm-luger-federal-hst-147-grain-hollow-point-le-ammo-p9hst2-limit-20 View Quote Already gone. Luckily I got mine |
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Was sleeping, woke up and had an email from them. Damnit. Me, too. Yep, FML It's not too late. This place has had a boatload of 147gr HST on sale for several days and I can't believe no one has not posted about it. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-9mm-ammo-9mm147grjhphstfedprem-50 |
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While not HST 147 I see MAH supplies / hotpig has the Remington 124+P and 147gr BONDED instock 124 +P is in Doc list And the only reason the GS147B isn't on the list is that the doc hasn't yet test it. Im sure if the old regular GS 147 made the list. the Bonded version will also. |
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It's not too late. This place has had a boatload of 147gr HST on sale for several days and I can't believe no one has not posted about it. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-9mm-ammo-9mm147grjhphstfedprem-50 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Was sleeping, woke up and had an email from them. Damnit. Me, too. Yep, FML It's not too late. This place has had a boatload of 147gr HST on sale for several days and I can't believe no one has not posted about it. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-9mm-ammo-9mm147grjhphstfedprem-50 Got my 3 additional boxes today. |
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In stock here!
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Was sleeping, woke up and had an email from them. Damnit. Me, too. Yep, FML It's not too late. This place has had a boatload of 147gr HST on sale for several days and I can't believe no one has not posted about it. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-9mm-ammo-9mm147grjhphstfedprem-50 Got my 10 additional boxes today. Still want the +P.
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Me, too. Yep, FML It's not too late. This place has had a boatload of 147gr HST on sale for several days and I can't believe no one has not posted about it. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-9mm-ammo-9mm147grjhphstfedprem-50 Got my 10 additional boxes today. Still want the +P. Well done |
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Ammo to go has the 147 grain right now, but it's standard pressure. Heads up if anyone still wants the regular 147s.
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