Author
Message
Automan909
Offline
Posts: 126
Feedback: 0% (0)
Posted: 1/4/2013 12:38:18 PM
I own other types of guns but never had a 9mm before.
Can you tell me the difference between Luger and Parabellum ammo?
What are the uses of each one? Thanks
a308garand
NRA Life Member
NRA
Offline
Posts: 3384
Feedback: 100% (16)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/4/2013 12:44:31 PM
Two terms for the same exact thing. 9mm NATO, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum...all the same thing

"Your times is over! You are gonna die bloody; all you can do is pick where!"
~Sheriff to Butch and Sundance
CovertChannels
Too much crap, not enough fans....
Offline
Posts: 5442
Feedback: 100% (21)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/4/2013 12:44:36 PM
They are the same thing. 9mm Luger= 9mm Parabellum = 9X19 ammo. All interchangeable. Depends on where the ammo is from on the naming from what I have seen. 9mm Makarov is different as it is only 9X18.
I do my best to believe the crap in your posts.....
Coopmandu
Member
Offline
Posts: 1711
Feedback: 100% (50)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/4/2013 12:45:28 PM
There's no difference... both are 9x19mm.
CovertChannels
Too much crap, not enough fans....
Offline
Posts: 5443
Feedback: 100% (21)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/4/2013 12:45:34 PM
9mm NATO is the same size, but loaded much hotter than standard loadings of commercial rounds. Closer to a +P.

Originally Posted By a308garand:
Two terms for the same exact thing. 9mm NATO, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum...all the same thing



I do my best to believe the crap in your posts.....
ANIMUS
Offline
Posts: 5000
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/5/2013 11:43:09 AM
9mm NATO isn't much hotter than AE 124gr ball loads. Negligible velocity difference.
1Devildog
Offline
Posts: 1432
Feedback: 100% (18)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 8:37:19 AM
Bullet weight and velocity do not change the name of a cartridge. 9x19mm, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum, 9mm NATO are all the same exact cartridge with all of the various bullet weights, bullet styles, powder charges, internal case dimension variations all being normal for a widely mass produced cartridge.

One notable exception is the 9mm Italian Glisenti cartridge. It is a 9x19, but loaded weak specificly for the Glisenti pistol, and while identical in dimension to the 9mm para. is essentially considered a different cartridge...

1DD
grendelbane
Online
Posts: 3503
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 10:33:50 AM
[Last Edit: 1/6/2013 10:34:40 AM by grendelbane]
Originally Posted By 1Devildog:
Bullet weight and velocity do not change the name of a cartridge. 9x19mm, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum, 9mm NATO are all the same exact cartridge with all of the various bullet weights, bullet styles, powder charges, internal case dimension variations all being normal for a widely mass produced cartridge.

One notable exception is the 9mm Italian Glisenti cartridge. It is a 9x19, but loaded weak specificly for the Glisenti pistol, and while identical in dimension to the 9mm para. is essentially considered a different cartridge...

1DD


Yes! The high pressure versions of the 9x19mm cartridge might shorten the service life of your now century old Luger, but they won't blow it up.

Keep modern cartridges out of your Italian Glisenti, and to be on the safe side, keep those +p and +p+ loadings out of the older guns.

It is not a bad cartridge. When you hear me refer to it as "Kaiser Wilhelm's" cartridge, I am just making fun.

Automan909
Offline
Posts: 127
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/7/2013 11:51:16 AM
Thanks for the info.
I can always count on you guys for the right help.