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Posted: 3/12/2012 10:17:42 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Also, in the budget ammo category which would recoil less, 115 grain (standard load) or a 147 grain subsonic load? Thanks for any education you can provide. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:10:15 PM
typically 147 recoil softer of differently at least. with 147 the recoil is more of a push and the sights tend to move more to the rear than upward. The slide tends to cycle slower with these type loads.
with 115s at minor power factor recoil tends to push the sights a little more upward than rearward. The slide also tends to cycle faster with these loads. If both are loaded to the same power factor (which is a big deal in IDPA) the main difference i have noticed is the sight movement. you could buy some of the federal champion that is sold at walmart. I have shot 1000s of that stuff and is it is great. Out of my pro i got it to shoot a little under 4 inch groups at 25 yards. The recoil is the softest of most factory 115 grain loads and is pretty clean. Another good thing i like about the federal is the primers arenice and soft so if you did any work to the striker you wont have any problems ignighting them, and they have great brass for when you do reload. I also used to use the Remingtion UMC 9 124 grain. The recil was nice but it was dirty and the velocity was to close to minor for my comfort. I did not shoot this ammo for accuracy. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 12:36:20 AM
I shoot a G34 for USPSA and 3 gun competitiion....out of my gun (Briley barrel) 115grain ammo is considerably less accurate than 147 grain bullets....Federal American Eagle is my major match choice... handload Delta Precision over WSF (1000fps) for local matches
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Posted: 5/24/2012 10:22:15 AM
147 recoils softer but slower than 115.
I personally like the snappiness of 115. I shoot the wwb from walmart and it has never given me problems. Heck I have used some wolf before just not as accurate as winchester. |
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Posted: 5/24/2012 10:47:16 AM
[Last Edit: 5/24/2012 11:34:47 AM by rock71]
If you do not reload get some Blazer with the cheap aluminum case.
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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:35:32 PM
The Federal Red Box is what I shoot ike most have already mentioned. It is the softest 9mm I've tried, and I get acceptable accuracy. If I was going for pure precision, the 124's are what my glocks like.
Carry ammo is another story. |
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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:53:14 PM
Really what ever is cheap. Unless you are getting failure to neutralize penalties, IMHO you make up more time by moving quickly than shooting 0s. Moving quickly and having smooth reloads comes with practice and budget is the limiting factor on practice, at least for me. So shoot it cheap and often, provide it is reliable ammo (hell I just pick up some Tula from walmart to see how it runs, they were out of WWB and Federal
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Posted: 5/31/2012 4:54:10 PM
[Last Edit: 5/31/2012 4:56:50 PM by Ameshawki]
I run whatever Walmart has on sale. Usually Federal, but I've run every brand they sell. Never noticed any difference on recoil. Faster follow ups aren't going to gain you much if anything. Most shooters lose time on sloppy reloads or not understanding the course of fire. Speed of follow ups is waaaaayyyyyy down the list.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 9:06:04 AM
FWIW, I prefer slower heavier bullets for steel matches because I can hear the impact better than with supersonic ammo. Many people don't have any trouble hearing them either way.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 10:27:27 PM
I only shoot steel cased ammo in IDPA, cause im cheap and it doesnt give me any problems.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:01:24 PM
Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I run whatever Walmart has on sale. Usually Federal, but I've run every brand they sell. Never noticed any difference on recoil. Faster follow ups aren't going to gain you much if anything. Most shooters lose time on sloppy reloads or not understanding the course of fire. Speed of follow ups is waaaaayyyyyy down the list. This is the truth. The .0001 seconds you on save by the recoil being snappier and settling down faster is not going to matter. Move faster, reload faster ![]() |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 9:46:29 PM
I'm not too experienced at this, but when I asked the same question elsewhere, I was pointed toward the Atlanta Arms & Ammo 147gr ammo. I've recently ordered some to try. Up until now my Sig P226 TacOps has seen nothing but about 3000 rounds of Federal Champion (Red Box) 9mm 115gr for competitoins and training. It will be interesting to see if I notice a difference. FWIW I ordered the I9147 reman stuff, not the "competition" stuff. Supposedly they are the exact same load, only in once-used brass.
No disrespect to some of the other posters - I have LOTS of room to improve my reloads, my course-reading, etc. And I'm sure that they're right - there is far more time in getting the skills down. I just like to remove all the excuses I can - and this is one more thing I can "upgrade" relatively inexpensively. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 2:56:59 AM
The heavier one will recoil less. I'd buy the cheaper one. When you get good enough that it matters price won't.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 12:11:33 PM
Originally Posted By Tony44:
Getting more into shooting sports in my mid life. Started shooting GSSF and am now moving into IDPA. I don't reload so I'm looking for a reliable, inexpensive, and lower recoil (faster follow ups) round for such matches. Recommendations? Also, in the budget ammo category which would recoil less, 115 grain (standard load) or a 147 grain subsonic load? Thanks for any education you can provide. In the future I would look into a reloader / dillon When I bought my Dillon my shooting improved because I could shoot more rds for less money That and it help to have a range in the yard |
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