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Posted: 1/31/2012 4:48:17 PM

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Having tried so many types, I've come to develop favorite and hated brands.

I think my most hated is Remington, my most loved in Speer Lawman.

The Speer stuff always felt like it was loaded hot and it was always decently clean. The Remington and UMC stuff has always been dirty and even fed poorly. Their QC has left me jaded as well. I once had a round in a box that had a rim on it.

I wish I had taken a pic of it. The former GF found it when she was loading mags. I've recently had a round fail to chamber in my 1911. Same round wouldn't chamber in a friends XD45 either. WTF, Remington?
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Posted: 1/31/2012 5:47:52 PM
Winchester NATO or Ranger, but those are not that easily obtainable, for average store bought brand, Federal.
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Posted: 1/31/2012 8:52:58 PM
I also think the Speer Lawman is the best I have used.

When you can find it for the same prices as American Eagle/PMC/Blazer Brass ect.... its great.
But I dont pay more for it.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 1:50:53 PM
I think it all sucks for accuracy in 9mm
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Posted: 2/1/2012 1:51:52 PM
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DDTAP



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Posted: 2/2/2012 1:58:43 PM
Lapua.


Originally Posted By FMJ:
I think it all sucks for accuracy in 9mm

Got anything to back that up, or is this just another case of different caliber fanboy hate?
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Posted: 2/3/2012 6:19:23 AM
Never seen Lapua ball ammo! They make great ammo
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Posted: 2/3/2012 8:25:44 AM
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Never seen Lapua ball ammo! They make great ammo

It certainly isn't something you see sitting in a retailer's shelf.

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Posted: 2/3/2012 10:42:06 AM
Speer Lawman or Winchester White Box, whichever is cheaper.
"The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse." --James Madison

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Posted: 2/3/2012 11:05:04 AM
RWS- Clean, accurate, goes bang everytime.
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Posted: 2/3/2012 5:51:42 PM
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Originally Posted By MarcW:
Lapua.


Originally Posted By FMJ:
I think it all sucks for accuracy in 9mm

Got anything to back that up, or is this just another case of different caliber fanboy hate?
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Back up? my targets

Yeah Every Ball load Ive tried in my handgun sucks compared to quality HP
looking back at all my reloading . I get the best accuracy with HP and also Lead WC/ SWC

Plinking I like ball loads



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Posted: 2/3/2012 8:38:59 PM
Best? IMO:

1) Hirtenberger Patronenfabrik
2) IMI
3) RUAG Ammotec (Geco, RWS, DAG)
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Posted: 2/3/2012 10:35:05 PM
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Winchester NATO


This. You just don't run up on it anymore.
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Posted: 2/4/2012 7:56:18 PM
RWS Match Grade 230 grn
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Posted: 2/5/2012 10:40:17 AM
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RWS Match Grade 230 grn


Hows accuracy out of that? Local shop has some and I'm in need of some .45 ACP.
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Posted: 2/5/2012 10:40:56 AM
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Originally Posted By MarcW:
Lapua.


Originally Posted By FMJ:
I think it all sucks for accuracy in 9mm

Got anything to back that up, or is this just another case of different caliber fanboy hate?
<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/cz207520sport20ii20schu.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9501/cz207520sport20ii20schu.th.jpg</a>


Back up? my targets

Yeah Every Ball load Ive tried in my handgun sucks compared to quality HP
looking back at all my reloading . I get the best accuracy with HP and also Lead WC/ SWC

Plinking I like ball loads





What handgun?
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Posted: 2/10/2012 8:54:54 PM
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Originally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Originally Posted By MarcW:
Lapua.


Originally Posted By FMJ:
I think it all sucks for accuracy in 9mm

Got anything to back that up, or is this just another case of different caliber fanboy hate?
<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/cz207520sport20ii20schu.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9501/cz207520sport20ii20schu.th.jpg</a>


Back up? my targets

Yeah Every Ball load Ive tried in my handgun sucks compared to quality HP
looking back at all my reloading . I get the best accuracy with HP and also Lead WC/ SWC

Plinking I like ball loads





What handgun?


6906
I guess I should of said all sucks in my 9mm
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Posted: 2/10/2012 10:15:20 PM
In order:
Speer lawman
Winchester 9mm NATO
WWB
Federal eagle
Remington UMC
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Posted: 2/10/2012 10:48:14 PM
Speer Lawman is what I always stock up on when I find it for decent prices. I also don't mind WWB, never have had any problems with it.
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Posted: 2/11/2012 2:30:46 AM
Originally Posted By xXNuggettXx:
RWS- Clean, accurate, goes bang everytime.


this stuff is real good
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Posted: 2/11/2012 2:33:11 AM
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Originally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
Originally Posted By hunter111:
RWS Match Grade 230 grn


Hows accuracy out of that? Local shop has some and I'm in need of some .45 ACP.


One ragged hole at 15 feet if you take your time, some could do better
I really like this stuff , it is clean , accurate , and priced right
I am thinking of Self Defense with this round out of a gun that only is reliable with FMJ
it is 830 FPS @ the muzzle and almost 400 FPE at the muzzle
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Posted: 2/11/2012 2:41:36 AM
Speer Lawman, Winchester White Box, Magtech etc.

Remington has run bad in everything I've fired it in over the last 10 years.
The first to go was the former quality 22lr line, just the standard ammo. Next was the Hornet/Hyper velocity higher end Remington .22lr.
Then the handgun ammo went all to hell. The UMC first, and then everything else other than the defense lines.
Rifle ammo was next.

It's become unreliable, inaccurate. and very dirty.

It was good ammo in the 80s and mid 90s. I really don't know what happened to it.

I've had it not fire with solid primer strikes, I've had primers that were loaded sideways, bent case rims from the factory, projectiles that were loose in the case to the point you could wiggle them out with your fingers, and, projectiles that were set back into the case so far the the ogive was inside the case mouth.

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Posted: 2/11/2012 9:20:46 PM
Originally Posted By hunter111:
Originally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
Originally Posted By hunter111:
RWS Match Grade 230 grn


Hows accuracy out of that? Local shop has some and I'm in need of some .45 ACP.


One ragged hole at 15 feet if you take your time, some could do better
I really like this stuff , it is clean , accurate , and priced right
I am thinking of Self Defense with this round out of a gun that only is reliable with FMJ
it is 830 FPS @ the muzzle and almost 400 FPE at the muzzle
15 feet!? Do you mean 15 yards ? At 15 feet I could close my eyes and still probably shoot one ragged hole .

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Posted: 2/11/2012 9:35:59 PM
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Winchester
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Posted: 2/12/2012 12:12:02 AM
Originally Posted By XM21Nick:
Originally Posted By hunter111:
Originally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
Originally Posted By hunter111:
RWS Match Grade 230 grn


Hows accuracy out of that? Local shop has some and I'm in need of some .45 ACP.


One ragged hole at 15 feet if you take your time, some could do better
I really like this stuff , it is clean , accurate , and priced right
I am thinking of Self Defense with this round out of a gun that only is reliable with FMJ
it is 830 FPS @ the muzzle and almost 400 FPE at the muzzle
15 feet!? Do you mean 15 yards ? At 15 feet I could close my eyes and still probably shoot one ragged hole .



From the holster, 3 rounds ,2 seconds, one hole...
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Posted: 2/12/2012 5:39:19 PM
Originally Posted By XM21Nick:
Originally Posted By hunter111:
Originally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
Originally Posted By hunter111:
RWS Match Grade 230 grn


Hows accuracy out of that? Local shop has some and I'm in need of some .45 ACP.


One ragged hole at 15 feet if you take your time, some could do better
I really like this stuff , it is clean , accurate , and priced right
I am thinking of Self Defense with this round out of a gun that only is reliable with FMJ
it is 830 FPS @ the muzzle and almost 400 FPE at the muzzle
15 feet!? Do you mean 15 yards ? At 15 feet I could close my eyes and still probably shoot one ragged hole .



For me it depends on the type of handgun Im shooting


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