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Posted: 1/9/2015 8:12:28 PM EDT
A G19 sized M&P, please!
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It wouldn't make sense to me. The M&P9 is between a G17 and G19 but holds 17 rounds. The M&Pc is between a G19 and G26 and holds 12 rounds.
A 10mm would be cool or a redesigned .45 magazine that holds more rounds. What else could they do? Get into the tactical shotgun thing? |
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It wouldn't make sense to me. The M&P9 is between a G17 and G19 but holds 17 rounds. The M&Pc is between a G19 and G26 and holds 12 rounds. A 10mm would be cool or a redesigned .45 magazine that holds more rounds. What else could they do? Get into the tactical shotgun thing? View Quote Yes. The compromise is a failure. I would be very happy with a 15 round gun. Just a little shorter in the butt. |
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I'd like to see a trimmed down 500 "Special" revolver. Shorter cylinder with a 4 inch barrel.
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They make a glock 19 sized gun but it'd a .22. The m&p 22 compact.
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Product Code Description Barrel Length Finish Rounds MSRP 10138 M&P BODYGUARD 38 With Crimson Trace® Integral Laser - MA Compliant 1.9" Black 5 $539.00 10140 MODEL 642 - LaserMax Laser 1 7/8" Gls Bead 5 $539.00 10141 MODEL M&P 9 Shield - Crimson Trace® Green Laserguard 3.1 Black 8 $589.00 10147 MODEL M&P 40 Shield - Crimson Trace® Green Laserguard 3.1 Black 7 $589.00 150922 MODEL M&P 9 - Threaded Barrel Kit 4 1/4" Black 17 $669.00 150923 MODEL M&P 45 Threaded Barrel Kit 4 1/4" Black 10 $719.00 10123 MODEL M&P 9 Compact - Carbon Fiber 3 1/2" CF 12 $599.00 10191 MODEL M&P 9 Compact - FDE 3 1/2" FDE 12 $569.00 10121 MODEL M&P 9 - Carbon Fiber 4 1/4" CF 17 $599.00 10188 MODEL M&P 9 - FDE 4 1/4" FDE 17 $569.00 10124 MODEL M&P 40 Compact - Carbon Fiber 3 1/2" CF 10 $599.00 10190 MODEL M&P 40 Compact - FDE 3 1/2" FDE 10 $569.00 10122 MODEL M&P 40 - Carbon Fiber 4 1/4" CF 15 $599.00 10189 MODEL M&P 40 - FDE 4 1/4" FDE 15 $569.00 View Quote |
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Only if they shorten the frame and cylinder to take advantage of the shorter OAL of 9mm. Otherwise there is no point or real advantage. I can get better performance for the same gun (size and weight) in 357 Mag. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A J frame revolver in 9mm would be nice. Only if they shorten the frame and cylinder to take advantage of the shorter OAL of 9mm. Otherwise there is no point or real advantage. I can get better performance for the same gun (size and weight) in 357 Mag. Wouldn't want my J-frame to be any smaller, just would like to be able to use the same ammo as my semi-autos. |
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Wow that carbon fiber looks like something Sig would put out. You would think they would make more money with FDE and OD frame versions. David
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Wouldn't want my J-frame to be any smaller, just would like to be able to use the same ammo as my semi-autos. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A J frame revolver in 9mm would be nice. Only if they shorten the frame and cylinder to take advantage of the shorter OAL of 9mm. Otherwise there is no point or real advantage. I can get better performance for the same gun (size and weight) in 357 Mag. Wouldn't want my J-frame to be any smaller, just would like to be able to use the same ammo as my semi-autos. They could shave 3/8 inch off the cylinder and frame and put a 2.25 in barrel without changing the overall size of the gun. This shortened cylinder/frame would reduce the bulk of the gun a lot. The extra barrel length would help some with ballistics. It would also reduce the weight of the gun if you wanted or you could simply add a under lugged barrel to keep the weight the same but feel slimmer in the pocket. How much does it save you to be able to use the same ammo? Are you going to shoot a J-frame enough for that to really matter? It doesn't really work as a backup since you would need moon-clips and the time to put rounds on them if your trying to reload from you primary magazines. Shorten the cylinder/frame and use a moon-clipless star extractor similar to the Charter Arms Pit-Bull and now we might have something desirable and useful. |
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Good points, but I doubt Smith would go that far. I actually shoot my 442 a lot and although I reload for it, I'd just like a 9mm option and would content with a 9mm 442. I hope Ruger's 9mm LCR sells like gangbusters as that's the only likely reason Smith would start making a 9mm revolver again IMO.
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Interested in this:
10141 MODEL M&P 9 Shield - Crimson Trace® Green Laserguard 3.1 Black 8 $589.00
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Wow that carbon fiber looks like something Sig would put out. You would think they would make more money with FDE and OD frame versions. David View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Wow that carbon fiber looks like something Sig would put out. You would think they would make more money with FDE and OD frame versions. David Didn't read the text below the picture did you? Below are S&W's 2015 pistol additions: Product Code Description Barrel Length Finish Rounds MSRP 10138 M&P BODYGUARD 38 With Crimson Trace® Integral Laser - MA Compliant 1.9" Black 5 $539.00 10140 MODEL 642 - LaserMax Laser 1 7/8" Gls Bead 5 $539.00 10141 MODEL M&P 9 Shield - Crimson Trace® Green Laserguard 3.1 Black 8 $589.00 10147 MODEL M&P 40 Shield - Crimson Trace® Green Laserguard 3.1 Black 7 $589.00 150922 MODEL M&P 9 - Threaded Barrel Kit 4 1/4" Black 17 $669.00 150923 MODEL M&P 45 Threaded Barrel Kit 4 1/4" Black 10 $719.00 10123 MODEL M&P 9 Compact - Carbon Fiber 3 1/2" CF 12 $599.00 10191 MODEL M&P 9 Compact - FDE 3 1/2" FDE 12 $569.00 10121 MODEL M&P 9 - Carbon Fiber 4 1/4" CF 17 $599.00 10188 MODEL M&P 9 - FDE 4 1/4" FDE 17 $569.00 10124 MODEL M&P 40 Compact - Carbon Fiber 3 1/2" CF 10 $599.00 10190 MODEL M&P 40 Compact - FDE 3 1/2" FDE 10 $569.00 10122 MODEL M&P 40 - Carbon Fiber 4 1/4" CF 15 $599.00 10189 MODEL M&P 40 - FDE 4 1/4" FDE 15 $569.00 |
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Very neat idea on shorting the frame to fit the shorter round. The 940 series was nice but heavy. If they made a J-frame in 9mm with different flavors they would sure sale like hot cakes.
I wonder if a S&W even reads these threads. |
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Good points, but I doubt Smith would go that far. I actually shoot my 442 a lot and although I reload for it, I'd just like a 9mm option and would content with a 9mm 442. I hope Ruger's 9mm LCR sells like gangbusters as that's the only likely reason Smith would start making a 9mm revolver again IMO. View Quote Last gun show, just before Christmas, all the dealers at that show sold out their Ruger LCR 9 stock in the first 4 hours of the show. I wanted to look at one up close, but they were all gone! |
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Read somewhere that a FDE version might be a possibility. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow that carbon fiber looks like something Sig would put out. You would think they would make more money with FDE and OD frame versions. David Read somewhere that a FDE version might be a possibility. FDE would be awesome. |
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Read somewhere that a FDE version might be a possibility. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow that carbon fiber looks like something Sig would put out. You would think they would make more money with FDE and OD frame versions. David Read somewhere that a FDE version might be a possibility. Yea, me too. Like five posts before your reply. |
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Quoted: They could shave 3/8 inch off the cylinder and frame and put a 2.25 in barrel without changing the overall size of the gun. This shortened cylinder/frame would reduce the bulk of the gun a lot. The extra barrel length would help some with ballistics. It would also reduce the weight of the gun if you wanted or you could simply add a under lugged barrel to keep the weight the same but feel slimmer in the pocket. How much does it save you to be able to use the same ammo? Are you going to shoot a J-frame enough for that to really matter? It doesn't really work as a backup since you would need moon-clips and the time to put rounds on them if your trying to reload from you primary magazines. Shorten the cylinder/frame and use a moon-clipless star extractor similar to the Charter Arms Pit-Bull and now we might have something desirable and useful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A J frame revolver in 9mm would be nice. Only if they shorten the frame and cylinder to take advantage of the shorter OAL of 9mm. Otherwise there is no point or real advantage. I can get better performance for the same gun (size and weight) in 357 Mag. Wouldn't want my J-frame to be any smaller, just would like to be able to use the same ammo as my semi-autos. They could shave 3/8 inch off the cylinder and frame and put a 2.25 in barrel without changing the overall size of the gun. This shortened cylinder/frame would reduce the bulk of the gun a lot. The extra barrel length would help some with ballistics. It would also reduce the weight of the gun if you wanted or you could simply add a under lugged barrel to keep the weight the same but feel slimmer in the pocket. How much does it save you to be able to use the same ammo? Are you going to shoot a J-frame enough for that to really matter? It doesn't really work as a backup since you would need moon-clips and the time to put rounds on them if your trying to reload from you primary magazines. Shorten the cylinder/frame and use a moon-clipless star extractor similar to the Charter Arms Pit-Bull and now we might have something desirable and useful. |
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Smith & Wesson is dead to me. How that idea got trough the meetings/brainstorming is mind boggling. |
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Looks like SIG beat them to the punch with a 10mm. http://whichgun.com/img/firearms/pistols/sig_sauer/p220_match_elite/1.jpg View Quote 220 Frame based. Not a high cap. However, if it sells, then maybe it'll spur S&W to get off their hiney and produce a 10mm on the M&P 45 at least. |
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Quoted: 220 Frame based. Not a high cap. However, if it sells, then maybe it'll spur S&W to get off their hiney and produce a 10mm on the M&P 45 at least. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Looks like SIG beat them to the punch with a 10mm. http://whichgun.com/img/firearms/pistols/sig_sauer/p220_match_elite/1.jpg 220 Frame based. Not a high cap. However, if it sells, then maybe it'll spur S&W to get off their hiney and produce a 10mm on the M&P 45 at least. |
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N-frame revolvers. Please. Just start making some damn revolvers.
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I'd like to order a FDE in 9mm. Going to have to find a shop that will order one and block the mags for my F'd state.
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