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Posted: 10/22/2015 9:44:34 PM EDT
Very cool looking gun, but it's (to me) not really a P225, and I'm not sure it's the P225 people were hopeful for when they announced the re-release.
http://www.osagecountyguns.com/sig-p225a-9mm.html 
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Posted: 10/22/2015 9:55:29 PM EDT
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I like that, but I already have a P239 so I guess it wouldn't do much for me.
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Posted: 10/22/2015 10:15:36 PM EDT
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I don't understand the appeal of the old or new P225's. Such limited capacity in gun that size/weight.
It's bigger and heavier than my P224, with substantially less capacity. Hell, that thing only weighs 1.5oz less than a P229. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 7:35:07 AM EDT
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I don't understand the appeal of the old or new P225's. Such limited capacity in gun that size/weight. It's bigger and heavier than my P224, with substantially less capacity. Hell, that thing only weighs 1.5oz less than a P229. Being single-stack they're thin. I'll be honest in that I never liked the P224, this in a 10 round capacity would appeal to me more. But as it is, the P239 and the P225A fill the exact same niche. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 8:42:40 AM EDT
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Being single-stack they're thin. I'll be honest in that I never liked the P224, this in a 10 round capacity would appeal to me more. But as it is, the P239 and the P225A fill the exact same niche. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the appeal of the old or new P225's. Such limited capacity in gun that size/weight. It's bigger and heavier than my P224, with substantially less capacity. Hell, that thing only weighs 1.5oz less than a P229. Being single-stack they're thin. I'll be honest in that I never liked the P224, this in a 10 round capacity would appeal to me more. But as it is, the P239 and the P225A fill the exact same niche. P239 doesnt fit my hands nearly as well as a P225/P6. The part of this pistol I DONT like.... Note that original P225 magazines will not work in this pistol. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 9:15:05 AM EDT
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P239 doesnt fit my hands nearly as well as a P225/P6. The part of this pistol I DONT like.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the appeal of the old or new P225's. Such limited capacity in gun that size/weight. It's bigger and heavier than my P224, with substantially less capacity. Hell, that thing only weighs 1.5oz less than a P229. Being single-stack they're thin. I'll be honest in that I never liked the P224, this in a 10 round capacity would appeal to me more. But as it is, the P239 and the P225A fill the exact same niche. P239 doesnt fit my hands nearly as well as a P225/P6. The part of this pistol I DONT like.... Note that original P225 magazines will not work in this pistol. Agree. I like the P225 more than the P239 as well. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 9:44:02 AM EDT
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The original police trade ins were a hell of a buy when the first came out. I had one. I liked it well enough but didn't do anything my 228 didn't do better so I sold it.
$1,149 for the new one is crazy. I know Sigs are pricey but there's no way that thing is going to sell at that price. There's just to many better alternatives out there. It's sort of an odd in-between size. A bit chunky for a concealed carry, especially for a single stack and really too small for duty use. Not sure what market Sig is hoping to tap into. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 10:30:35 AM EDT
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The original police trade ins were a hell of a buy when the first came out. I had one. I liked it well enough but didn't do anything my 228 didn't do better so I sold it. $1,149 for the new one is crazy. I know Sigs are pricey but there's no way that thing is going to sell at that price. There's just to many better alternatives out there. It's sort of an odd in-between size. A bit chunky for a concealed carry, especially for a single stack and really too small for duty use. Not sure what market Sig is hoping to tap into. The P225 is very popular with the SIG Academy instructors when they're not teaching. I've seen some beautifully customized P225s with melted slides, night sights, and upgraded grips and trigger jobs. Never seen the P239 in any holsters there. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 12:07:44 PM EDT
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Well, it doesn't look bad.
Still not a P225 IMO. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 7:13:37 PM EDT
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I almost exclusively carry my p6. If this resembled it by any means at a reasonable price, I'd buy a couple.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 7:32:16 PM EDT
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Not a Glock, don't care.
Txl |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 10:41:56 PM EDT
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Not a Glock, don't care. Txl Thanks for the GD-like contribution. 
There's a Glock sub forum where I'm sure your expert opinion would be highly valued. Don't let the door... |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 11:13:35 PM EDT
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I got a W German made P225 and I love it. But I don't think I'll lay close to a grand out for a copy of something I paid $250 for originally.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 3:28:55 AM EDT
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Sig goofed this IMO...
What the market wanted was the P225 which Sig stopped making. They could have used the same frame, and just changed to the milled slides of the same dimensions. Instead, we got this. I prefer the hooked & squared trigger guard of the original P225/P6, but I can live with the rounded trigger guard. But Sig redesigning the frame so that original mags wont work in this version was stupid. I'm sure there is reason for it beyond not accepting old mags, but I'm sure it could have been figured out. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 3:53:40 AM EDT
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The price and proprietary mags kill it for me.
Still have a P6 from the second aim batch that was NIB. Love shooting that gun 
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Posted: 10/24/2015 7:00:48 AM EDT
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It'd be nice if it was the same mags. At least that would mean there's a new supply of mags for the older p225s. I wish I had picked up a couple more while they were available.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:19:42 AM EDT
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Sig goofed this IMO... What the market wanted was the P225 which Sig stopped making. They could have used the same frame, and just changed to the milled slides of the same dimensions. Instead, we got this. I prefer the hooked & squared trigger guard of the original P225/P6, but I can live with the rounded trigger guard. But Sig redesigning the frame so that original mags wont work in this version was stupid. I'm sure there is reason for it beyond not accepting old mags, but I'm sure it could have been figured out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Sig goofed this IMO... What the market wanted was the P225 which Sig stopped making. They could have used the same frame, and just changed to the milled slides of the same dimensions. Instead, we got this. I prefer the hooked & squared trigger guard of the original P225/P6, but I can live with the rounded trigger guard. But Sig redesigning the frame so that original mags wont work in this version was stupid. I'm sure there is reason for it beyond not accepting old mags, but I'm sure it could have been figured out. .357/.40 I like the aesthetics and I'm sure it will be a great gun. But I understand the dissatisfaction. I could see CCWing a .357 P225A, though
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It'd be nice if it was the same mags. At least that would mean there's a new supply of mags for the older p225s. I wish I had picked up a couple more while they were available. I'm still kicking myself for not buying about 10 slightly used, very cheap ones from the old SIG Academy Proshop there on a Friday. I put it off until Monday and there was only 1 left. (Apparently a FAMS guy bought the rest that weekend) I've got 11 now, but more is better. 
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:04:31 AM EDT
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Mine came with 1 and I found 2 in a box at a gun show for $6 a piece. Wish he had more.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:49:17 AM EDT
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That's not a 225, maybe a single stack 228/M11-A1, but no part of that even resembles a 225... another swing and miss by SIG.
 
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Posted: 10/24/2015 2:05:54 PM EDT
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Years ago I saw a very nice condition P6 at a gun show. I walked around the show chewing on whether I wanted to buy but passed because it was way to similar to my P228 and lower capacity. For the right price I might buy one used when someone buys it shoots it a bit and does not like it.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 4:21:11 PM EDT
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Every once in a while I feel like selling my pristine P6 and mag stash for something more modern. I never shoot it and don't CCW it, but I can't bring myself to sell it right now.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 5:58:34 PM EDT
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My first Sig was a P225 I bought at a Gun Show in 1985 I had no idea what I was buying other than it felt good in both mine and my wife's hands, and the original owner who I was buying it from said it was very accurate and shot great.
It didn't take but one range trip to realize what a fine pistol it was and within a few months I found and bought 2 Browning BDA's which were Sig P220's one was 9mm the other 45 My wife took over the 225 and it was her pocket book gun until I bought a West German P228 in the early 90's I had bought a P226 new in 1988 I ended up trading the P225 I don't even remember what I traded it for but it was tough to get rid of with its single stack mags. Since I bought that 225 in 1985 I have had many a Sig pass thru my hands all have been West German MFG except for the MK25 I own now. Once you buy that first Sig it usually starts a incurable disease of not being able to refrain from buying more Sigs. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 10:30:08 PM EDT
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3 words.......Single Stack P229
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Posted: 10/29/2015 9:41:40 PM EDT
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I was optimistic that the redesign would be a super thin P225
Doesn't look that way. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 12:19:58 AM EDT
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.357/.40 I like the aesthetics and I'm sure it will be a great gun. But I understand the dissatisfaction. I could see CCWing a .357 P225A, though
I'm still kicking myself for not buying about 10 slightly used, very cheap ones from the old SIG Academy Proshop there on a Friday. I put it off until Monday and there was only 1 left. (Apparently a FAMS guy bought the rest that weekend) I've got 11 now, but more is better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sig goofed this IMO... What the market wanted was the P225 which Sig stopped making. They could have used the same frame, and just changed to the milled slides of the same dimensions. Instead, we got this. I prefer the hooked & squared trigger guard of the original P225/P6, but I can live with the rounded trigger guard. But Sig redesigning the frame so that original mags wont work in this version was stupid. I'm sure there is reason for it beyond not accepting old mags, but I'm sure it could have been figured out. .357/.40 I like the aesthetics and I'm sure it will be a great gun. But I understand the dissatisfaction. I could see CCWing a .357 P225A, though
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It'd be nice if it was the same mags. At least that would mean there's a new supply of mags for the older p225s. I wish I had picked up a couple more while they were available. I'm still kicking myself for not buying about 10 slightly used, very cheap ones from the old SIG Academy Proshop there on a Friday. I put it off until Monday and there was only 1 left. (Apparently a FAMS guy bought the rest that weekend) I've got 11 now, but more is better. You need a different barrel, extractor, ejector, and magazines,( plus God knows what else), to have the same gun in both 9mm and 40/357. I'm not a machinist, but I dont see how it could be a real problem to mill out the magwell to a narrower width to accept the original 225 mags. I get the idea of using the same barrel, just drilled out to different diameters, and I could see that it would allow a similar cost savings by using similar width magazines, with the 9mm being thicker... But again, the guys who pushed Sig to re-issue the P225, want new guns, with the ability to accept old mags, or as a supply of new parts for their old guns. I really doubt there were many (if any at all), who were clammering for a whole new large single stack 9mm with the same general measurements of a much loved previously discontinued model.....but with absolutely NO parts interchangability. Again, I love my Sigs, (currently a P229R in 40 cal, P6, and two P225's. Duty gun is a P229 in 40 that I will be buying if possible when we transition to new duty guns), but I'm really having a hard time justifying to myself spending that money on that gun. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 8:14:02 AM EDT
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You need a different barrel, extractor, ejector, and magazines,( plus God knows what else), to have the same gun in both 9mm and 40/357. I'm not a machinist, but I dont see how it could be a real problem to mill out the magwell to a narrower width to accept the original 225 mags. I get the idea of using the same barrel, just drilled out to different diameters, and I could see that it would allow a similar cost savings by using similar width magazines, with the 9mm being thicker... But again, the guys who pushed Sig to re-issue the P225, want new guns, with the ability to accept old mags, or as a supply of new parts for their old guns. I really doubt there were many (if any at all), who were clammering for a whole new large single stack 9mm with the same general measurements of a much loved previously discontinued model.....but with absolutely NO parts interchangability. Again, I love my Sigs, (currently a P229R in 40 cal, P6, and two P225's. Duty gun is a P229 in 40 that I will be buying if possible when we transition to new duty guns), but I'm really having a hard time justifying to myself spending that money on that gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sig goofed this IMO... What the market wanted was the P225 which Sig stopped making. They could have used the same frame, and just changed to the milled slides of the same dimensions. Instead, we got this. I prefer the hooked & squared trigger guard of the original P225/P6, but I can live with the rounded trigger guard. But Sig redesigning the frame so that original mags wont work in this version was stupid. I'm sure there is reason for it beyond not accepting old mags, but I'm sure it could have been figured out. .357/.40 I like the aesthetics and I'm sure it will be a great gun. But I understand the dissatisfaction. I could see CCWing a .357 P225A, though
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It'd be nice if it was the same mags. At least that would mean there's a new supply of mags for the older p225s. I wish I had picked up a couple more while they were available. I'm still kicking myself for not buying about 10 slightly used, very cheap ones from the old SIG Academy Proshop there on a Friday. I put it off until Monday and there was only 1 left. (Apparently a FAMS guy bought the rest that weekend) I've got 11 now, but more is better. You need a different barrel, extractor, ejector, and magazines,( plus God knows what else), to have the same gun in both 9mm and 40/357. I'm not a machinist, but I dont see how it could be a real problem to mill out the magwell to a narrower width to accept the original 225 mags. I get the idea of using the same barrel, just drilled out to different diameters, and I could see that it would allow a similar cost savings by using similar width magazines, with the 9mm being thicker... But again, the guys who pushed Sig to re-issue the P225, want new guns, with the ability to accept old mags, or as a supply of new parts for their old guns. I really doubt there were many (if any at all), who were clammering for a whole new large single stack 9mm with the same general measurements of a much loved previously discontinued model.....but with absolutely NO parts interchangability. Again, I love my Sigs, (currently a P229R in 40 cal, P6, and two P225's. Duty gun is a P229 in 40 that I will be buying if possible when we transition to new duty guns), but I'm really having a hard time justifying to myself spending that money on that gun. While I get what you're saying about the slides, pretty much every company builds small (9, .40, .357) and large (.45, 10mm) frames in order to reduce production costs. There's been no official word on other calibers, so that's just my speculation based on experience. There is a poster on another board claiming that there have also been some issues with the P225 mags, and that may be the reason. Another reason is they could be using modified P239 mags. Using the same base bodies would keep mag cost down. As I posted in another thread, wishing SIG would come out with an exact production replica of an older gun is like demanding the 2017 Toyota Corrolla be a 1980 E70. Only the gun industry stagnates on designs year after year after year and only gun consumers demand companies produce new products using older inferior construction, materials, and designs. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 9:53:12 AM EDT
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https://youtu.be/WRBDUdJl6wI
Looks like I was right. It uses P239 bodies with a different baseplate. Not compatible with P225 mags, but will keep the cost of mags down significantly for those buying new mags. It also uses P239 barrels, making threaded barrels easy to get. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 9:17:08 PM EDT
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Interesting video. Sounds like the new 225 is just a redesigned 239 to give it a more traditional SIG grip/feel. I always wanted a 239 but could not over come the funny shaped grip. Maybe interested in one someday when the prices come down some. I guess time will tell.
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Posted: 10/30/2015 9:21:33 PM EDT
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so what are good to very good p225s going for?
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Posted: 10/31/2015 1:59:35 PM EDT
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Not a Glock, don't care. Txl Take this to the Glock forum
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:13:29 PM EDT
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Quote Historycrowboy: Take this to the Glock forum  |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 7:17:31 PM EDT
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Hi Stranger!
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Take this to the Glock forum
Good evening my Friend 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:12:22 PM EDT
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The P6 was awesome for $300 back when there was a glut of them. For this MSRP its a much tougher call.
Really disappointed the 225A doesn't use the same magazines. No chance the new grips will fit the P6 is there, though? |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 6:45:47 PM EDT
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Interesting video. Sounds like the new 225 is just a redesigned 239 to give it a more traditional SIG grip/feel. I always wanted a 239 but could not over come the funny shaped grip. Maybe interested in one someday when the prices come down some. I guess time will tell. I recently bought my wife a new P239 SAS. I'm not a big 9mm person but of all the 9mm handguns I've ever owned including the full size P85, P89 and P226 this little P239 recoils far less and is a pure joy to shoot. Very accurate too, at least out to the 15 yards I shot it. The factory Hogue grips are nice and fit mine and my wife hand perfectly and neither of us are small, I'm 6'1" and she's 5'11". She's happy with it and that's what counts for me. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 11:13:18 PM EDT
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I recently bought my wife a new P239 SAS. I'm not a big 9mm person but of all the 9mm handguns I've ever owned including the full size P85, P89 and P226 this little P239 recoils far less and is a pure joy to shoot. Very accurate too, at least out to the 15 yards I shot it. The factory Hogue grips are nice and fit mine and my wife hand perfectly and neither of us are small, I'm 6'1" and she's 5'11". She's happy with it and that's what counts for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting video. Sounds like the new 225 is just a redesigned 239 to give it a more traditional SIG grip/feel. I always wanted a 239 but could not over come the funny shaped grip. Maybe interested in one someday when the prices come down some. I guess time will tell. I recently bought my wife a new P239 SAS. I'm not a big 9mm person but of all the 9mm handguns I've ever owned including the full size P85, P89 and P226 this little P239 recoils far less and is a pure joy to shoot. Very accurate too, at least out to the 15 yards I shot it. The factory Hogue grips are nice and fit mine and my wife hand perfectly and neither of us are small, I'm 6'1" and she's 5'11". She's happy with it and that's what counts for me. I have no doubt the 239 shoots great. It is a SIG. I just do not like the front shape of the 239 grips. It feels "squared off" to me. I do not like how it feels. The Hogue rubber grips would solve this but I hate the Hogue grips with the finger groves just as much. It is just how my hands/fingers fit the finger groves. If Hogue made grips for the 239 that did not have the finger grooves that covered the squared grip then it would be a non issue. Just to be clear, I like Hogue grips, have the rubber panels on all my 229/228/226's, I just do not like the finger ones which are what fixes the 239 square grip. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 4:31:09 PM EDT
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I held a new P225 today at the gun show, it felt great in the hand. I have a no rail P229 and shoot my buddy's P239 both of which I love. The 225 felt like two of my favorite guns humped and made a lovely baby. Still not buying one though. I need a 226 or a 220 first.
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Posted: 11/7/2015 11:25:26 PM EDT
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I picked up one today with night sights. 1,049 out the door.
I love the way the gun feels, I took it to the range today and it is a good shooter too. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 12:32:40 AM EDT
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I picked up one today with night sights. 1,049 out the door. I love the way the gun feels, I took it to the range today and it is a good shooter too. Ouch, that is exactly what keeps me from buying one and I've spent more for less... |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 12:19:20 PM EDT
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I picked up one today with night sights. 1,049 out the door. I love the way the gun feels, I took it to the range today and it is a good shooter too. Pics? |
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Posted: 11/22/2015 1:13:52 PM EDT
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I had a P225 made in the mid 90's. On the SigForum, it had been touted as pulling Excaliber from the stone my more than a few members there.
I sold it shortly afterwards. The shape of the trigger guard did not gell with me. My trigger finger would drag along the more confining shape as compared to other P series pistols. I also found it very hard to shoot well with it. Regarding the P225A, I can understand the purists not likeing this offering. As someone else mentioned, it seems more like a single stack P228/9. Having said that, based on the pics, it seems to correct the trigger guard issue I had with the original. I think the Sig connoisseur will dig it. I don't see this pistol setting the world on fire as it's not the most practical choice in the carry role. I would guess it's an overall nice pistol, but the price is very steep for what you're getting. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 2:21:50 AM EDT
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I went to a local gun show today and saw a few dealers with the P225-A1. Got to compare them side by side with a 239. Simply put, the A1 is not a true 225 just like the M11-A1 is not a true 228.
However, I will never ever buy a 239 now. I really like the size and feel of the new 225. I would buy one if the price would drop some. And I was a doubter when I first saw the release of these. But saw something else I had never heard of before. Saw a couple of P229C models. Very nice and cheaper then the 225. Asked the dealer and they said they are a limited production model? I really liked them. Basically its a 229 with a half inch chopped off the slide but full size frame. They also come in 40S&W I think. They had a regular model and a SAS model which did not seem to cost that much more. EDIT---and to add, the 229C did not a rail mount on the frame. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 8:29:04 AM EDT
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I went to a local gun show today and saw a few dealers with the P225-A1. Got to compare them side by side with a 239. Simply put, the A1 is not a true 225 just like the M11-A1 is not a true 228. However, I will never ever buy a 239 now. I really like the size and feel of the new 225. I would buy one if the price would drop some. And I was a doubter when I first saw the release of these. But saw something else I had never heard of before. Saw a couple of P229C models. Very nice and cheaper then the 225. Asked the dealer and they said they are a limited production model? I really liked them. Basically its a 229 with a half inch chopped off the slide but full size frame. They also come in 40S&W I think. They had a regular model and a SAS model which did not seem to cost that much more. EDIT---and to add, the 229C did not a rail mount on the frame. The P229C is a P224 slide on P229 frame. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 12:05:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2015 10:11:22 PM EDT
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Id search high snd low for an original P225 (or P6) before the A model.
Ive been disappointed in sig ever since the 229s rolled off the production floor. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 10:48:07 PM EDT
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Sounds like the internals are a P239 wrapped in a slightly larger package.
There were issues with the original 225 mag feed lips spreading over time. Doesn't seem to be an issue with 239 mags though. Also just eyeing the grip screw locations on the new vs old, the grip panels do not appear to be interchangeable. |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 10:48:21 AM EDT
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Sounds like the internals are a P239 wrapped in a slightly larger package. There were issues with the original 225 mag feed lips spreading over time. Doesn't seem to be an issue with 239 mags though. Also just eyeing the grip screw locations on the new vs old, the grip panels do not appear to be interchangeable. The grips between the 225, 239, and the 225-A1 are all different. None of the three can fit on any of the other three. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 8:52:10 PM EDT
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I have two P239 (tactical with TB / GEN1 SAS) and I got each of them for a little less than half of the P225A1. I carry the Tactical model as my CCW with the 10 round magazines. I would not get the A1 model for that price unless it was compelling. For the price of that A1, I got a Elite Dark P229TB two years ago. That came with adjustable rear sight, elite grips, threaded barrel, beavertail,tritium sights and SRT. Getting some cool stuff like that for the P225A1 could ease the pain of $1K.
People didn't like the P239 since it was kinda small on the grips. A 10-round mag would fix that. And I carry the P239 everywhere. I believe the P225 would be great if they added more value like rosewood/walnut grips in addition to rubber/aluminum, extra magazines, Wolff springs, ETC. |
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Posted: 12/11/2015 3:03:05 PM EDT
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P239 has always felt weird to me.
I almost bought a P6 when they were cheap, but hesitated and did not get it. Got a S&W 3913 that I mostly adore, but the grip will probably get changed out sooner or later. Hogue wood or rubber, probably. I looked over a P225A the other day, though. Man, that's a lot of money, but I'd carry that gun, and shoot the hell out of it. Feel is as good as anything I've ever tried in that size, and better than almost anything I've every handled. I'd almost trade my 3913LS for it. |
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