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Posted: 5/17/2017 6:31:12 PM EDT
I currently have 2 vickers 19s and my carry 19.4. I've been thinking I need a race gun but I don't compete. Ideas???
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I'd say no, instead of a new gun just buy some more ammo and other goodies for your current guns, but a G34 sure is a great Glock, I miss mine... such a sweet shooter... good luck with your decision..
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Myself and many other people shoot the Glock 19 in USPSA, IDPA, and Steel Challenge and stay competitive in production classes. If you want it go get it, but it's not necessary. Some will say the shorter 19 cycles faster and transitions faster. All you need is a recoil spring, mags, and ammo and your done.
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G17 is the right answer. I compete with a G17 over the G34 I own two of each and like the feel and balance of the G17 more than the G34. G34 does look more bad ass than the G17 though.
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Myself and many other people shoot the Glock 19 in USPSA, IDPA, and Steel Challenge and stay competitive in production classes. If you want it go get it, but it's not necessary. Some will say the shorter 19 cycles faster and transitions faster. All you need is a recoil spring, mags, and ammo and your done. View Quote I was -3 penalty on the 34 and -4 on the 19. However, my overall time was like 9 seconds better with the 19. I think I just have shot the 19 so much I am timed-in to the recoil impulse. |
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Get a 17L. The 34 is half assed unless you're trying to use it for IDPA and Production.
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I LOVE shooting my 34 more than any other pistol. I don't shoot matches or anything, but have used a shot timer and on a course we ran over the winter that we set up in a field to mimic a IDPA or other course, I not only ran faster, but also had better hits with my 34, than my 19.4 that I carry most days
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I own all the 9mm Glocks. I was a die hard 17 guy in tell I bought a G34.4
It's now my favorite Glock. So yes buy it! |
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For the 17/19 > 34 folks, take a look at how many top level GMs are choosing to use a 17 or 19 over a 34...that's what we call a clue
Re: the 17L, it's an awesome gun, I love mine. But it doesn't get shot much since it's useless for almost all competitions. Only time I use mine is for steel matches. Actually my 34 doesn't get shot much either since switching to Limited |
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I finally got one after years of thinking about it. I've really enjoyed it so far. Planning to use it in GSSF matches.
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I'm not sure if I NEED one, but I'm looking to upgrade to it for USPSA from my G19.
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Need? No. As others stated you can use your G19. I am currently.
Want? Oh hell yes. I shot a buddies G34 and now I have one sitting at Tarans shop getting a performance package done. |
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For the 17/19 > 34 folks, take a look at how many top level GMs are choosing to use a 17 or 19 over a 34...that's what we call a clue Re: the 17L, it's an awesome gun, I love mine. But it doesn't get shot much since it's useless for almost all competitions. Only time I use mine is for steel matches. Actually my 34 doesn't get shot much either since switching to Limited View Quote |
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A 34 buys you very little over a 17.
I'd get a 17 if you don't have one. It's the perfect size. Full Disclosure: I shoot a 34 and 35 in USPSA. |
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The 34 offers one district actual advantage over the 17/19 and the is sight radius that is slightly more forgiving. On a timer I am faster with the G17(I have put it to the test several times) considering all other things equal (trigger, sights, reload time). I can also clear my holster easier with my G17 since I have such long arms it is awkward sometimes trying to draw a longer pistol for me which causes me to lean over to the left more when trying to clear the holster. View Quote |
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Because I'm a nerd, let's go to the hard data.
There is a 3/4 inch difference in the OAL of the G34 and G17. Use your thumb and forefinger to make what you estimate is 3/4 of an inch. Pretty negligible. The G34 is heavier by a whopping .71 ounces. The cutout on the G34 reduces mass in the slide, allowing the 34 to have more area but a negligible gain in weight. Here's where things get significant. The sight radius on the G34 is over an inch longer, thus more forgiving of sight alignment errors. The barrel of the G34 is .83 inches longer. More barrel = more velocity, which can be important in sports with a required power factor. The practical result is that one can use a lower powder charge and get the same velocity with a longer barrel. Lower powder charge = lower recoil. Physics FTW again! The velocity gain alone is enough for me to declare the G34 the clear winner in a head-to-head, but I understand that my requirements are geared toward a very specific purpose and that not everyone needs the same thing. I expect I could go out to a match with a G17 and shoot within 1-2% of what I would have shot with the G34, but sometimes 1-2% is the difference in winning the match and losing. |
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Do you use a dropped and offset holster hanger? View Quote |
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Get a 17L. The 34 is half assed unless you're trying to use it for IDPA and Production. View Quote |
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Absolutely get the G34. I would recommend the MOS version. You can add a red dot sight whenever you want.
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The 34 offers one district actual advantage over the 17/19 and the is sight radius that is slightly more forgiving. On a timer I am faster with the G17(I have put it to the test several times) considering all other things equal (trigger, sights, reload time). I can also clear my holster easier with my G17 since I have such long arms it is awkward sometimes trying to draw a longer pistol for me which causes me to lean over to the left more when trying to clear the holster. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For the 17/19 > 34 folks, take a look at how many top level GMs are choosing to use a 17 or 19 over a 34...that's what we call a clue There's certainly nothing wrong with the 17. I've owned every size of 9mm Glock, but don't have a 17 anymore. For my uses there's nothing a 17 does that a 34 doesn't do better |
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Well I caved and purchased a g34.4. This thing is the tits. 569.00 otd
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Well I caved and purchased a g34.4. This thing is the tits. 569.00 otd View Quote |
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I had one and got rid of it. Personally, I didn't notice a difference between it and my G17 in accuracy. I use a G17 for CCW and USPSA.
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I had to have one, bought it, and can't shoot it well at all for some reason.
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I have a older Gen 2 19 with the smooth grip.
I also have a Gen 3 G34 with the finger bumps and all that. I like them both very much and shoot them both decent. Under time pressure of a falling plate shoot I seem to shoot the 19 slightly better but it is a close thing. I have no idea if the compact size helps me somehow or if the smooth grip works better for my style of shooting. It is possible that with my old man eyes the longer sight radius is slowing me down a bit. You don't need a 34 but you likely want one. If you are going to shoot stock trigger the 34 is what you want as it has a slightly better factory trigger, If you are going to upgrade the trigger the 17 might be a better choice. I pretty much advise anyone buying a Glock to go Gen 4 because of the flexibility of the grips |
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That is good that you did the testing and decided that the 17 is the one for you. But you should recognize that you are the exception, not the rule, therefore it's probably not the best advice to go around recommending the 17 as the "right answer" to everyone when they are considering getting a 34 . That's all I was trying to point out... There's certainly nothing wrong with the 17. I've owned every size of 9mm Glock, but don't have a 17 anymore. For my uses there's nothing a 17 does that a 34 doesn't do better View Quote |
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Personal preference but i just traded in my 35 for another 17, didnt like the balance.
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Get a 34 and a 17L, see which you like better and give me the other.
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I picked up a gun at my local FFL today, looked through his list of guns for sale and saw he had a NIB Gen4 G34 with 3 mags for $550. I took a look at it, took it apart and sure enough it was brand new. As soon as he said he'd let me have it for $500 otd I couldn't say "I'll take it." fast enough.
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I picked up a gun at my local FFL today, looked through his list of guns for sale and saw he had a NIB Gen4 G34 with 3 mags for $550. I took a look at it, took it apart and sure enough it was brand new. As soon as he said he'd let me have it for $500 otd I couldn't say "I'll take it." fast enough. View Quote |
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