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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:33:49 PM EDT
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There's people who change them immediately (me) and people who have factory sights that have been on guns for 20 friggin years... It preference mostly, but the front plastic sight has been knowing to come off during holstering and unholstering, etc. Might last you forver, who knows..
It's a crap shoot. lol |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:51:54 PM EDT
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Besides them being plastic, I shoot very good with them
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:13:25 PM EDT
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Yes it is necessary. I like things simple too. The sight picture is confusing in general. I would rather all black than the box and dot. The sights being plastic is pretty much the biggest downfall. One handed drills calling for hooking the rear sight onto your belt have a good chance of ripping the rear sight off. Not just a hypothetical. It does happen. The front sight is better with the screw in method but when they were staked in they were known to fly off while firing.
Plain black steel sights are cheap and easy to install. So cost shouldn't be an issue. If you just shoot for fun, it doesn't matter what you put on there. If the weapon is going to be used for defense and you are going to train with it more durable sights are worth the effort. My opinion. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:33:32 PM EDT
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I think it depends on your usage and whether or not you like the sight picture.
Metal is going to be more durable, but then I've seen a pic on this site of a duty weapon with the plastic sights worn down to nubs. I changed mine, I got a sight picture I much prefer, and sights that are more durable, needed or not, for a reasonable cost. I shot it a year + with the factory plastic, problem now is I want all my handgun sight pictures to be as close as possible to my Warrens, and changing all of them adds up. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:45:01 PM EDT
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The plastic sights are always first to go on mine. They go into the trash with the serrated triggers Glock puts on the sub and compact models.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:48:01 PM EDT
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They make some steel factory sights. I almost bought some because I really liked the factory sight picture at first. I succumbed to peer pressure though and put some Trijicon NS on mine. I'm really glad I did go with some quality sights in the end...
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Posted: 7/2/2015 4:11:41 PM EDT
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Throw them right in the trash as soon as I get home. Plastic sights on a "fighting pistol" are a really poor idea.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 4:21:20 PM EDT
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Alright you guys are right. I'll have to get them swapped out.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 4:25:02 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:51:42 PM EDT
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It's one of the few brands of pistols where 90% of the buyers change them out ASAP. Next time a cost comparison is made, sights for the Glock should be part of the equation. I swap my plastic Glock sights with the factory metal versions since I shoot really well with the squared "U" rear and dot front.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 6:07:02 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO. With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 6:29:26 PM EDT
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With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO. With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. From a machinists standpoint, what gun offers the same reliability / overall function as a glock that is of superior materials and processes and is of a comparable price. Not to start an argument, I am actually curious. I'm sure companies like sig use different processes on their higher end offerings but those come in around 800 dollars so it's apples to oranges. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 6:31:14 PM EDT
[#13]
I can use 'em just fine. I have Glock night sights on most of mine.
I would go to a gunfight with Glock plastic sights. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 6:46:41 PM EDT
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I can use 'em just fine. I have Glock night sights on most of mine. I would go to a gunfight with Glock plastic sights. It's your funeral, bro. What sights should I get for my 19? Looking for something with a U notch rear. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:25:04 PM EDT
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With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO. With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. Hm, I was always told Glock doesn't make hardly anything on their guns. Like less than $100 a gun is what I was told by a distributor rep that was at my local FFL'S shop one day. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:29:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Those aren't sights, those are rear dovetail and front sight hole protectors.
Yes, necessary. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:10:36 PM EDT
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Besides them being plastic, I shoot very good with them This. I have changed the sights on some of my Glocks, but some I leave them on and as Sublimeon said, I also shoot very good with them. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:13:41 PM EDT
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It's your funeral, bro. What sights should I get for my 19? Looking for something with a U notch rear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can use 'em just fine. I have Glock night sights on most of mine. I would go to a gunfight with Glock plastic sights. It's your funeral, bro. What sights should I get for my 19? Looking for something with a U notch rear. i went with the Trijicon Tritium night sights GRN/GRN for my G19 Gen 4. Check out this site for Glock parts, they seem to have very nice prices. http://www.rockyourglock.com |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:35:55 PM EDT
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Glock stock sights out of the box aren't great but work fine and with decent fundamentals you should have no probl hitting your target. However, considering long term use the plastic sights will not hold up as well as steel sights. Also adding that you get get some really nice fiber optic or night sights made from steel for under $100 it's a no brainier.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:38:58 PM EDT
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The first thing that gets changed on my Glocks are the sights; I run XS Big Dot on my G19 CCW. Just "Dot the I".
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:39:39 PM EDT
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Glock factory night sights are $57 and they are steel and have tritium and glow well. Great bargain.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:44:26 PM EDT
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It's your funeral, bro. What sights should I get for my 19? Looking for something with a U notch rear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can use 'em just fine. I have Glock night sights on most of mine. I would go to a gunfight with Glock plastic sights. It's your funeral, bro. What sights should I get for my 19? Looking for something with a U notch rear. I can point shoot just fine if the stockers fall off. U-notch rear? 10-8 or Wilson Combat. Both super nice sights... |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:53:42 PM EDT
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I can point shoot just fine if the stockers fall off. U-notch rear? 10-8 or Wilson Combat. Both super nice sights... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can use 'em just fine. I have Glock night sights on most of mine. I would go to a gunfight with Glock plastic sights. It's your funeral, bro. What sights should I get for my 19? Looking for something with a U notch rear. I can point shoot just fine if the stockers fall off. U-notch rear? 10-8 or Wilson Combat. Both super nice sights... Been looking at the Wilson Vickers battlesights, black rear with a tritium front looks nice. About $95 total. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:56:51 PM EDT
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From a machinists standpoint, what gun offers the same reliability / overall function as a glock that is of superior materials and processes and is of a comparable price. Not to start an argument, I am actually curious. I'm sure companies like sig use different processes on their higher end offerings but those come in around 800 dollars so it's apples to oranges. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO. With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. From a machinists standpoint, what gun offers the same reliability / overall function as a glock that is of superior materials and processes and is of a comparable price. Not to start an argument, I am actually curious. I'm sure companies like sig use different processes on their higher end offerings but those come in around 800 dollars so it's apples to oranges. The models are out there for all to see. If you want a Sig offering, look towards the SP2022. It's cheaper, it comes with night sights and is very reliable. Point me to a NIB G19 that comes with night sights from the factory in the same price range which is around $399. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 10:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's one of the few brands of pistols where 90% of the buyers change them out ASAP. Next time a cost comparison is made, sights for the Glock should be part of the equation. I swap my plastic Glock sights with the factory metal versions since I shoot really well with the squared "U" rear and dot front. Personally, I do not care for the factory installed sights and usually install night sights as soon as possible. Given the design/market (LE/mil) for the Glock pistols, I would guess they put average sights on them as they are going to be replaced almost immediately. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:34:06 PM EDT
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Ever since Glock started using screws to secure the plastic front sight instead of staking I have not seen one come off.
On the flip side I'll bet the majority of Glocks sold are sold with factory night sights to law enforcement. They aren't high speed, low drag but they work just fine. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:40:21 PM EDT
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The models are out there for all to see. If you want a Sig offering, look towards the SP2022. It's cheaper, it comes with night sights and is very reliable. Point me to a NIB G19 that comes with night sights from the factory in the same price range which is around $399. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO. With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. From a machinists standpoint, what gun offers the same reliability / overall function as a glock that is of superior materials and processes and is of a comparable price. Not to start an argument, I am actually curious. I'm sure companies like sig use different processes on their higher end offerings but those come in around 800 dollars so it's apples to oranges. The models are out there for all to see. If you want a Sig offering, look towards the SP2022. It's cheaper, it comes with night sights and is very reliable. Point me to a NIB G19 that comes with night sights from the factory in the same price range which is around $399. So by what processes is the 2022 conceived? |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 7:21:20 AM EDT
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Some people purchase a firearm and never train with it. It goes to the range a few times a year and is used to shoot at paper and then placed back into a holster. Then there are some people that train with their firearm as if their life depended on it. Their weapon has scratches, blemishes, and various imperfections that come with this type of training. So what did I just say ? The plastic sight doesn't hold up well to one hand manipulation drills when using the rear sight to charge the weapon. I don't know which group you fall into ? That is a decision for you to make my friend.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:15:41 AM EDT
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I went with the stock sights for years on my Glocks, then I came into the Tru Dot sights, orange rear and green front. Now all three of my G21's sport the same Tru Dot's and same 3.5lb trigger bars. You can't tell one from the other without looking at the serial numbers.
You don't have to change the sights out if you don't want to, but night sights definitely give you an advantage in low-light situations. Oh and all my pistol sights are fixed, not adjustable target sights, once they're set, no need to monkey around with them. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:19:44 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Glock keeps putting plastic sights on them because it helps keep cost down. And hell, in today's world most people swap out sights even on guns that come with steel sights to whatever their preferences is, so they're better off sending them out with plastic sights and keep the cost down IMO. With the materials used on Glocks, they're already saving a ton of money. Stamped metal internals and plastic anywhere they can get away with it, yet they still cost more than other guns using metal sights and mim/machined internals. Now so people don't go crazy, I'm not bashing Glocks. I like Glocks and own a few, but I'm also a machinist that looks at things right down to the materials used. Looking at the materials used in a Glock has me scratching my head when someone says $500 +/- is cheap for what you get. Again since I know how this forum can be, I'm not bashing Glock. I think they're great guns and would trust my life with one, but Gaston has been riding carbon copy models in different sizes and calibers for some time with only a little tweak here and there. Bottom line is Glock continues to put on plastic sights because they know people will buy them regardless. Did I mention I'm not bashing Glock? Okay. From a machinists standpoint, what gun offers the same reliability / overall function as a glock that is of superior materials and processes and is of a comparable price. Not to start an argument, I am actually curious. I'm sure companies like sig use different processes on their higher end offerings but those come in around 800 dollars so it's apples to oranges. The models are out there for all to see. If you want a Sig offering, look towards the SP2022. It's cheaper, it comes with night sights and is very reliable. Point me to a NIB G19 that comes with night sights from the factory in the same price range which is around $399. So by what processes is the 2022 conceived? Polymer, stainless steel, MIM/Cast parts and far less stamped metal than a Glock. If you want another example look at the SD9VE which can easily be found for $300. It includes a steel front sight and plastic rear although it has more stamped internals like a Glock. There are other models out there as well that are less expensive. Again I'm not bashing Glock since I own a few and like them quite a bit. After doing complete tear downs of many polymer pistols and looking at what they're made of, Glock must have a pretty good profit margin from any model they sell. Doing a quick Google search just now shows "A BusinessWeek story says Glock estimated its "profit margin per pistol" at 68 percent." That's quite a bit. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:48:43 AM EDT
[#31]
To me, the front sight is much too fat. Makes shooting at distance (25+ yrd) difficult. I prefer Heinies.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:50:59 AM EDT
[#32]
If I change one thing on a glock it is to steel sights.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 4:14:08 PM EDT
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Necessary? Of course not. Desirable, well yes, for me. I find the most effective sights for me have a rear notch with more room on either side of the front sight for rapid sight acquisition. The factory sights don't give me this.
Ameriglo has numerous possible combinations with a .140 wide tritium front and .180 rear notch. The ratio is the widest of any I have found with a tritium front sight like the Hackathorns I prefer. The tritium front surrounded by the big orange ring is easy on my 58 year old eyes and the wide rear notch makes it quick to pick up. I want to try the Spartan Tactical set with the tritium rear but couldn't find them in stock for my G 43. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 6:46:11 PM EDT
[#34]
They are placeholders for something better
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:59:31 AM EDT
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Do you need to replace them? No, only if you really want to.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:34:11 AM EDT
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It may not be absolutely necessary, but it's the first thing I change. I hate everything about the stock sights - the dimensions, the white outline and dot, the material. Just garbage IMO.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:52:41 AM EDT
[#37]
i like having night sights on
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:20:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Simply yes
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:38:34 PM EDT
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I really like them. I love the white outline rear sight. It's my preferred rear sight. I've won a couple of Glock competitions with the stock sights. You may want the metal ones if you will be beating them some. I have night sights for my carry and defensive type Glocks.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:56:33 PM EDT
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Sights are about all I care to change on a glock
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:54:35 PM EDT
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One of the few things you can customize externally
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