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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:48:28 PM EDT
Okay. So, I really don't need a .45, wasn't planning on getting a .45 - in fact, I was in the process of streamlining everything to 9mm and a Glock 19 at that - and yet, today I found myself putting my name in the wait list for one at my friendly neighborhood crack house, a.k.a. GT Distributors. Even as I asked myself the question, why I would pay nearly $700 for the NIB Glock long slide .45, I had no answers. In fact, I was already fantasizing about an RMR atop it.
To question whether the 41 was needed at all is to question whether I need it. This is an important question. What does the 41 do that the 21 doesn't? I mean, if I want a .45 caliber Glock, why not just get a Gen4 G21 and be done with it. Softer shooter, more holster options, etc. Does the longer sight radius of the 41 really make that much difference? .45 is right next to 9mm, IMO, for most common caliber to have around. That is my first rationalization for introducing .45 back into the repertoire. I've been down the 1911 road before. I like the 1911. It's a good gun. This time I want something different. The 41 is new and different. That's why it caught my eye. |
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It's a trap. Once a year or so my mind tells me I need to swap out my G22s for 1911s or G21s. Wait a month, it will go away. If not, buy a used G21 and give it a year to see how you like it. Glocks are one thing I don't buy new.
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It's a trap. Once a year or so my mind tells me I need to swap out my G22s for 1911s or G21s. Wait a month, it will go away. If not, buy a used G21 and give it a year to see how you like it. Glocks are one thing I don't buy new. View Quote So, you're saying let some other guy buy it and shoot a few rounds out of it, and then buy it off of him. |
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So, you're saying let some other guy buy it and shoot a few rounds out of it, and then buy it off of him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's a trap. Once a year or so my mind tells me I need to swap out my G22s for 1911s or G21s. Wait a month, it will go away. If not, buy a used G21 and give it a year to see how you like it. Glocks are one thing I don't buy new. So, you're saying let some other guy buy it and shoot a few rounds out of it, and then buy it off of him. For $200 less because it's "used." My most expensive Glock so far was $350, love the PD trade ins, they look brand new. |
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See, the thing is, if I was to bring .45 back into the stable, I would almost want it in a full size gun. I've only owned 1911s in the past, 5" and 4.25" models. A long, long time ago, my first .45 was a G37 (yes, the GAP). Although not as small, the frame of the current .45/10mm Gen4 Glocks is much improved. I wouldn't do an SF because I prefer the texture and features of the Gen4 Glock frame although there are probably more aftermarket options for Gen3 frames. .45 is just not a caliber that I would carry so a compact .45 has no appeal to me.
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I love mine Fell in love with this the first time I saw it and finally figured out how to get it home. <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg</a> View Quote Not helping. |
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I love mine Fell in love with this the first time I saw it and finally figured out how to get it home. <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg</a> Not helping. I can resist anything but temptation, when that gun comes out in a 10 mm I'll be a goner. |
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Get it. It's already an incredibly soft shooting .45, I can't see the 21 being much better. I was able to easily and quickly drill a fit sized hole in the target at 15 yards with the gun.
The big thing though, is you can use existing 9mm Glock holsters with it due to the slide profile.
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Why I bought the G41 over the G21. Slimmer slide, 2 to 3 oz lighter, no slide cut out. I bought the G41 for my HD handgun, put a X300, Vicker slide stop, and trijicons on it. The first time you shoot it, or the first few hundred rounds will seem like a lot more of a push as far as recoil compared to the G21. After that I never noticed it
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Get it. It's already an incredibly soft shooting .45, I can't see the 21 being much better. I was able to easily and quickly drill a fit sized hole in the target at 15 yards with the gun. The big thing though, is you can use existing 9mm Glock holsters with it due to the slide profile. View Quote So it will fit the holsters I have laying around for my long since gone G35? |
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If recent events have taught us anything, it that caliber diversity isn't necessarily a bad thing. I had made a considerable effort to stream line my Glocks to just 9mm prior to the events of SH. Shortly after 9mm was the first thing to dry up, and was difficult if not impossible to find. While I had a couple of .45's already, I added a .40 as it seemed to be the easiest to find ammo for.
G41 is great shooter, I've only got a few hundred rounds threw mine, as it came in last week, but it's a great shooter. I've currently got two G21gen4's, they are great guns... but I'd probably skip it if I was buying now, and just go with a G41 and a set of sights for it. I'm thinking about running it in CDP once I get sights/mag pouch. It fits fine in my G17 IDPA holster (bladetech), and sticks out just like my G34 does. As my accuracy has improved slightly over the years, I can truly see the advantage of the long slide/sight radius Glocks, especially at longer distances. ~g |
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I love mine Fell in love with this the first time I saw it and finally figured out how to get it home. <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg</a> View Quote |
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If recent events have taught us anything, it that caliber diversity isn't necessarily a bad thing. I had made a considerable effort to stream line my Glocks to just 9mm prior to the events of SH. Shortly after 9mm was the first thing to dry up, and was difficult if not impossible to find. While I had a couple of .45's already, I added a .40 as it seemed to be the easiest to find ammo for. G41 is great shooter, I've only got a few hundred rounds threw mine, as it came in last week, but it's a great shooter. I've currently got two G21gen4's, they are great guns... but I'd probably skip it if I was buying now, and just go with a G41 and a set of sights for it. I'm thinking about running it in CDP once I get sights/mag pouch. It fits fine in my G17 IDPA holster (bladetech), and sticks out just like my G34 does. As my accuracy has improved slightly over the years, I can truly see the advantage of the long slide/sight radius Glocks, especially at longer distances. ~g View Quote So, is the part if the frame that snaps into the Kydex dimensionally the same as the G34? I guess we're talking mostly about the trigger guard and portion of the frame around the muzzle. Makes sense. I am with you on diversification. Next to 9mm, .45 is the quintessential auto handgun caliber in my opinion. It is plentiful. I've always been a 1911 guy when it comes to .45s, but I'm considering a double stack. The Gen4 frame is large but not so large that I wouldn't be able to comfortably hold it. The Gen3 frame was just a bit much. (sigh) something tells me I'm going to end up buying this. |
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What sights are those and where is the POA/POI ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I love mine Fell in love with this the first time I saw it and finally figured out how to get it home. <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg</a> Those are the standard warren tactical fiber front sights with black rear. I used the standard 9mm ones. POI is right where you want it. Covered by the front sight. 21 feet. |
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I am still trying to digest the need for this pistol??? I cannot see how you can get better than a 21SF, period.
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Should I wait for a 10mm version? View Quote It would be the same size frame as the 21, anyway. Just swap slide assemblies and magazines, and you are good to go. Somebody has to be making an aftermarket 10mm slide, barrel, and guide rod in a Gen4 spec. LWD has one, but it is for a Gen3. |
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It's smaller than a gen 3 21sf. It's the new gen 4 grip, which feels to me like the gen 3 17/22 grip without any backstraps. There's a bunch of backstraps, my favorite being the smaller beavertail backstrap, which feels like a 21sf with a beavertail
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I love how the grip is advantage to the 1911 even though the glock has almost double the capacity.
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The STI 2011 carries 12 in the grip and is more comfortable than the G41, and the mag release button is more ergonomically placed.
I didn't do a photo comparison because mine has a large mag well which wouldn't do for plainclothes/concealed carry and we start mixing apples and oranges. The STI costs 3 times more than a box-Glock, and magazines go upwards of $60 a pop -- advantage Glock. |
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Can one of you folks with both the G-21 and the G-41 post a pic (birds eye view) of the slides side X side.?
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Not mine, but... http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Glock-41-narrower-slide-439x660.jpg View Quote Thank you, that did it I'm hooked. |
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Why did I open this thread??? Now I want a G41. You guys keep costing me money.
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To echo other's statement's, I bought my G41 because the Gen4 frame is much improved over the Gen3. It's also compatible with the holsters that I use for my G34 & 35, so I don't have to buy more support equipment. I've put 250 rounds through mine so far with no issues and it's softer shooting than a 1911. Overall, I'm impressed. The Zev safety plunger and connector are the way to go...
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It's lighter, thinner, longer barrel and sight radius. I see it as an improvement in every way over the clunky glock 21. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am still trying to digest the need for this pistol??? I cannot see how you can get better than a 21SF, period. 77 It's lighter, thinner, longer barrel and sight radius. I see it as an improvement in every way over the clunky glock 21. THIS |
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I am still trying to digest the need for this pistol??? I cannot see how you can get better than a 21SF, period. 77 View Quote To be honest I can't believe this wasn't offered a long time ago when they made the 34 and 35. I couldn't figure out for the life of me why they didn't make a competition .45. Steel plates, IDPA, IPSC, USPSA, bowling pins you name it a long slide .45 is just what the doctor ordered. ETA: The long slide combined with a 1911 grip angle backstrap could convert a lot of 1911 shooters who are sick of finicky guns or have just been waiting for Glock to give them a viable option. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Bar-Sto is shipping G41 barrels. It was five weeks from order to delivery.
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I can resist anything but temptation, when that gun comes out in a 10 mm I'll be a goner. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I love mine Fell in love with this the first time I saw it and finally figured out how to get it home. <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg</a> Not helping. I can resist anything but temptation, when that gun comes out in a 10 mm I'll be a goner. What I don't understand is why Glock doesn't do that? I've been wanting a long slide 10mm for a long time. |
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What I don't understand is why Glock doesn't do that? I've been wanting a long slide 10mm for a long time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I love mine Fell in love with this the first time I saw it and finally figured out how to get it home. <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/05EE7EAC-B5E5-4811-9D27-65AFCF31F8C3_zpsn9jdnkfm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s490.photobucket.com/user/hmaverick16/media/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/hmaverick16/E8646AD2-6CB5-411E-8B7F-FF8BCEC24249_zpscq4wjcix.jpg</a> Not helping. I can resist anything but temptation, when that gun comes out in a 10 mm I'll be a goner. What I don't understand is why Glock doesn't do that? I've been wanting a long slide 10mm for a long time. Damn, 10mm out of a 5"+ barrel would be some serious power. lol |
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I just bought a G3 21SF, I really wanted to like the G41 but I absolutely HATE the gen4 frames. I can not make my hands like them. I love the slide length, so later I might have to go with a LW 21T slide. My other option, when Glock releases the factory threaded guns (I'm needing the 45 to shoot 3 gun heavy), is a threaded barrel for my 21SF.
If I liked the gen4 grip I would absolutely LOVE the 41, as it stands I'll live with the 21SF gen3. |
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So, you're saying let some other guy buy it and shoot a few rounds out of it, and then buy it off of him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's a trap. Once a year or so my mind tells me I need to swap out my G22s for 1911s or G21s. Wait a month, it will go away. If not, buy a used G21 and give it a year to see how you like it. Glocks are one thing I don't buy new. So, you're saying let some other guy buy it and shoot a few rounds out of it, and then buy it off of him. Winner winner...there will be lots on the used market soon enough |
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