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Posted: 8/13/2012 3:23:32 AM
Originally Posted By dnahtanoj:
Originally Posted By HunterKiller86:
Glock 19. Best SHTF pistol. Ever. +1 |
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Posted: 8/13/2012 3:27:57 PM
If TSHTF any gunshot wound is going to be a serious problem, because 911 won't be sending an ambulance to get you imediate help. Get both though, you never now what kind of ammo you'll scavenge.
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airgunner
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Posted: 8/13/2012 3:41:58 PM
Both are great guns but for SHTF, I think the G19/9mm round are the more logical choice
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Posted: 8/13/2012 10:10:43 PM
Originally Posted By sixnine:
If TSHTF any gunshot wound is going to be a serious problem, because 911 won't be sending an ambulance to get you imediate help. Get both though, you never now what kind of ammo you'll scavenge. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile After my financial shtf is over, I will. I think you missed that part. |
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Posted: 8/14/2012 3:19:59 PM
I still vote the 19. IMO it is the best SHTF pistol one could own. That being said, if you have a chance to pick up a Gen2 get it regardless, it's a Gen2 19.
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Posted: 8/14/2012 4:04:52 PM
Originally Posted By Merdoc:
I still vote the 19. IMO it is the best SHTF pistol one could own. That being said, if you have a chance to pick up a Gen2 get it regardless, it's a Gen2 19. I did. Gen 2 G19 w/ Heinie Straight 8s and 3 mags. Hope to get up to 5 minimum and I have a nice holster that works IWB/OWB on the way. |
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Posted: 8/14/2012 5:28:53 PM
Nice. I'm looking for a kydex holster for my newly purchased Gen2 19. So far I'm coming up short.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 7:43:03 PM
[Last Edit: 8/17/2012 7:47:27 PM by CopM4]
....doesn't matter.
9mm 40sw and 45ACP are all intermediate powered rounds. In modern defensive ammo you will get good results across the board. Placement, Penetration and expansion are key...nothing else. You shoot the caliber you feel most competent with....and in a SHTF scenario the only thing a pistol is for is to buy time to get to a shotgun or rifle. TRAIN TRAIN and then TRAIN some more Fate favors the prepared.... |
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Posted: 8/17/2012 8:52:56 PM
Originally Posted By Merdoc:
Nice. I'm looking for a kydex holster for my newly purchased Gen2 19. So far I'm coming up short. casino custom is on glock talk. bought 3 holsters and 5 mag pouches from him. |
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Posted: 8/18/2012 7:28:09 AM
have any pictures?
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Posted: 8/20/2012 3:39:38 PM
19 all the way
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Posted: 8/20/2012 6:05:35 PM
Originally Posted By Merdoc:
have any pictures? Sent via email. |
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Posted: 8/21/2012 12:00:32 AM
G19
mags and ammo dude |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 10:43:21 PM
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
G19 mags and ammo dude Ended up with an M&P VTAC 9mm in a trade. Lost 1 mag but gained a quality holster, TLR-4, and mag holder and also a Galco Kingtuk for it. Feels soooooo much better in the hand. |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 10:55:42 PM
[Last Edit: 9/15/2012 10:56:41 PM by TexasTerror]
F the 19. Get the 17. As soon as I can afford it I'm getting a 17 and the 19 is going to the GF.
ETA: I have both a Gen 3 21SF and a Gen 3 19 |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 11:17:25 PM
Originally Posted By Kristofer_G:
.45ACP, aftermarket 10mm G21 barrel, and 10mm ammo do not match up with your financial plan. 9mm and Glock 19 do. And get more magazines... best answer. |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 7:14:50 AM
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
G19 mags and ammo dude Ended up with an M&P VTAC 9mm in a trade. Lost 1 mag but gained a quality holster, TLR-4, and mag holder and also a Galco Kingtuk for it. Feels soooooo much better in the hand. Did you trade off your 19 for the M&P? Are you Glock-less? |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 8:16:08 AM
Originally Posted By molar:
Keep the 19. Far easier to conceal, ammo is cheaper, increased capacity, and with today's bullet technology, 9mm HP performs as well as 40 or 45. 9mm ammo weighs alot less than 45, so if forced to bug out you can carry more rounds. Today's bullet technology also applies to the .45acp  |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 4:12:54 PM
I own both. If I had to choose I would keep one of my 19's. I love the 21, but economics among other factors lean heavily towards the 19
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Posted: 9/16/2012 5:47:36 PM
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
G19 mags and ammo dude Ended up with an M&P VTAC 9mm in a trade. Lost 1 mag but gained a quality holster, TLR-4, and mag holder and also a Galco Kingtuk for it. Feels soooooo much better in the hand. Did you trade off your 19 for the M&P? Are you Glock-less? Yep and comfortable with it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 7:19:33 PM
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
G19 mags and ammo dude Ended up with an M&P VTAC 9mm in a trade. Lost 1 mag but gained a quality holster, TLR-4, and mag holder and also a Galco Kingtuk for it. Feels soooooo much better in the hand. Did you trade off your 19 for the M&P? Are you Glock-less? Yep and comfortable with it. I like the M&Ps. If I had to start all over again, I'd have a hard choice between Glock and M&P. What do you like better about the M&P; what set it over the edge? Just curious. |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 9:47:16 PM
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
G19 mags and ammo dude Ended up with an M&P VTAC 9mm in a trade. Lost 1 mag but gained a quality holster, TLR-4, and mag holder and also a Galco Kingtuk for it. Feels soooooo much better in the hand. Did you trade off your 19 for the M&P? Are you Glock-less? Yep and comfortable with it. I like the M&Ps. If I had to start all over again, I'd have a hard choice between Glock and M&P. What do you like better about the M&P; what set it over the edge? Just curious. I love the ergos. It just feels made for my hand and I hate the Glock trigger face. I just wish it had the reset of the Glocks or the PPQ (They don't make a RAM for a VTAC yet) |
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Posted: 9/16/2012 11:01:57 PM
I have a Gen 3 and 4 23 with conversion barrels, a Gen4 21, a G30SF and Gen4 30 (yup!) and a Gen4 17. I carry and shoot better with the Gen4 17 than any gun I have owned. I carry it now daily in a VG2 or a Raven LC. Don't rule out the G17 if you have the option. Its not much bigger and still conceals great.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 5:50:56 AM
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
I love the ergos. It just feels made for my hand and I hate the Glock trigger face. I just wish it had the reset of the Glocks or the PPQ (They don't make a RAM for a VTAC yet) Ah, there's a callous on my trigger finger that would not be there but for that. I got to shoot a PPQ a little while ago and I was extremely impressed. |
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:20:23 AM
If you stick with it Dave Ramsey will work. Good for you for taking the plunge. I would choose the G19 regardless but more so given your financial goals. The 124+p gold dots will make the 9mm stand on level ground with the. 45acp and the extra capacity is a bonus.
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