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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:43:25 PM

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so i was wandering about the 10mm. how expensive it is to shoot and how accurate. also how much damage it would do compared to the more common .40 cal
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:11:01 PM
really expensive
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:49:55 PM
Not that expensive. I just bought one. I bought a few boxes of remmington fmj because that's all the small shop had. The ammo was just over 2 bucks a box more than the same In 45acp. So with that and a quick google search for ammo online I decided it was well worth the few extra dollars.
Also got a lw 6" barrel and only put a few rounds through that as well but seams very nice. Has a different recoil/kick. It kicks but less than my 1911 a little sharper of a kick if that makes sense. Probably doesn't.
A hot hunting load 10mm has more energy And velocity at 100yds than a 45acp at the muzzle! I didn't believe it till I looked for my self. Also a standard 10mm is considered to be similar or better to a .357 mag but less than a .41 mag. Haven. Checked that out yet but it was from the same website.
I still love my 45acp but cool to try something else and I get to try and get a deer with it this season :)
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Posted: 8/4/2012 11:44:49 PM
If you're looking to buy hot 10mm ammo, prices are approaching $1 a round.

On the other hand, having 15+1 capacity, having muzzle energies approaching 800 ft-lbs, and being able to utilize different bullet weights from 135 to 230 grains makes it a net positive for me. Just about every time I shoot my G20 at the range, someone asks me what the heck I'm shooting, because they're not used to Glocks making those kinds of noises. I'm also amused at the RSOs when I move over to the 100-yard line and whip out my Glock.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 12:11:57 AM
if you roll your own, it's not bad at all. You can load it weak or you can load it hot. You can also dial a load in that your 4" and 6" like.

if you buy REAL 10MM rounds like buffalo bore or double tap or similar, your going to drop some coin.

if you buy general over the counter 10mm, sell it and get a 40s&w. OTC 10mm is watered down to 40s&w.

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Posted: 8/5/2012 1:32:27 AM
I love my 10mm it's accurate and packs a wallop. Underwood ammo has great prices on full power loads.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 2:09:58 AM
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I love my 10mm. too... Ammo not as expensive as people always make it sound. When you buy defensive ammo, you almost always pay about $1 a round no matter what caliber. Underwood ammo is excellent!!! Full power and at a great price...and yeah..it turns heads at the range..
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Posted: 8/5/2012 2:12:01 AM
I carry a g29sf and reload for it and my Delta Elite. Soon to add a g20sf. The recoil of 10mm full power loads is more of a "straight back" recoil imo than a 45acp which is more of a muzzle flipping recoil. They both serve their purpose but to really get the power you either need to reload or buy the good stuff.
It's my favorite caliber with 460 Rowland in 2nd then 45acp.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 7:34:03 AM
If you buy bulk ammo online, 10mm costs very little, if any, more than 45 ACP. If you reload, it doesn't cost appreciably more to feed a 10mm than a 40 S&W.

In terms of performance, a full power 10mm is closer to a 41 Magnum than a 40 S&W. However, a lot of factory ammo is not loaded to full pressure.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 8:35:34 AM
Originally Posted By PK556:
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PSA always has PPU practice HPs for $17/box of 50 so it's not that much more. For social work, Underwood makes some of the best 10mm loads out there and they're abot $26-28/box of 50 for Gold Dots. If you look around, it's not that much more.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 11:38:31 AM
About $18-$20 for 50/practice ammo. $30 and up per 50 for defense ammo.

A 10mm glock isn't any more accurate than a full size 9, .40, or .45 glock. All do just fine.

The recoil can be less than a .40 Glock or more than a hot loaded .45 acp, it just depends what you load it with.

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Posted: 8/5/2012 2:30:23 PM
I love mine, it will be going deer and bear hunting with me this fall.
for ammo, go here:
UNDERWOOD AMMO 10MM

200 grain TMJ @1250fps...... thatt'l work!
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Posted: 8/5/2012 2:50:44 PM
People bitch but not that expensive. Reload and buy ammo when on sale. I snagged PPU 180 JHPs for $17.50 a box delivered. I can't buy walmart .45 that cheap.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 6:25:26 PM
If you don't want to deal with finding 10mm range ammo locally or don't want to pay the couple of bucks extra for it, you could get a .40S&W conversion barrel and shoot regular .40 through it. I have a lone wolf conversion barrel for my G20SF, and aside from dropping an empty case on my head now and then, it's been flawless. I'm sure I could fix the ejection angle by lightening up the recoil spring, but it functions fine and it doesn't bother me enough to mess with it. My 10mm mags feed .40 just fine, since it's the same case head diameter.

Underwood 10mm is pretty hot stuff. I haven't chrono'd it out of my gun yet, but the recoil and report are a lot stouter than the UMC 10mm I had. I keep my mags loaded with Underwood's 200gr XTP loading, though I have a box or two of their 180gr Gold Dots too. I haven't been able to find as much reliable ballistic test data in 10mm as I have for .40 or .45, but what I have found seems to indicate that either of those bullets should perform well in people or animals, although the Gold Dot is right on the edge of over-expanding at 10mm velocities.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:05:49 AM
unfortunately most of the ammo out there today is loaded no where near the original spec of a 200 gr bullet at 1200 feet per second. many of the loads from the main line ammo companies are only 100 FPS faster than a similar bullet weight 40 load. While ammo is slightly more expensive then say 45 acp, the bigger problem is supply. yes there are lots of on line sources (unless they manage to pass a law against mail order/on line ammo sales- keep your fingers crossed that doesn't happen) but when you run low and want to buy some for a quick range trip the regular department stores and sporting good stores won't likely have it, and even some gun shops only stock a few boxes. For the less popular calibers like 10mm the way to go is to reload.
I shot a friends glock 29 and found much to my surprise it seemd to give less recoil than my glock 27 in 40.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:51:35 AM
Ammo is not that expensive. Ted Nugent uses it exclusivly to hunt over monst all other rounds. Buy Double Tap for defense and Underwood to practice. Its the most powerful round Glock makes.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 10:34:46 AM
I helped a friend get set up with a 29SF a few weeks ago in anticipation of a trip to Alaska. After shooting it, I was very impressed. We outfitted him with some factory Hornady XTP loads. I have carried a 629 on my trips up North, but next time I go, I will be armed with a 10mm Glock. It isn't quite as hot at full house .44 magnum, but it is much faster shooting. It also provides commonality of training withother calibers.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 1:56:20 PM
Originally Posted By tigermilk:
I love mine, it will be going deer and bear hunting with me this fall.
for ammo, go here:
UNDERWOOD AMMO 10MM

200 grain TMJ @1250fps...... thatt'l work!



This.

Underwood has more or less made 10mm a viable option for non-reloaders for the first time.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 2:12:29 PM
Originally Posted By TomAiello:
Originally Posted By tigermilk:
I love mine, it will be going deer and bear hunting with me this fall.
for ammo, go here:
UNDERWOOD AMMO 10MM

200 grain TMJ @1250fps...... thatt'l work!



This.

Underwood has more or less made 10mm a viable option for non-reloaders for the first time.


And Kevin is awesome to deal with, i have talked on the phone with him a number of times, he even called me back after business hours to address a question I had,
Overall great company to deal with, they will get lots more business from me.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:48:04 PM
It's not like 10mm loaded to "only" .40 or just a little hotter is such a bad thing.

I find a 180gr bullet loaded to 1150 fps from a G20 has less felt recoil than a 180gr bullet at 950 fps from a G22 .40.

Nothing wrong with that.

Load it hot if you choose, but I still prefer even a medium 10mm load from a G20 over a standard .40 load from a g22.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 12:03:33 AM
Originally Posted By intheburbs:
If you're looking to buy hot 10mm ammo, prices are approaching $1 a round.

On the other hand, having 15+1 capacity, having muzzle energies approaching 800 ft-lbs, and being able to utilize different bullet weights from 135 to 230 grains makes it a net positive for me. Just about every time I shoot my G20 at the range, someone asks me what the heck I'm shooting, because they're not used to Glocks making those kinds of noises. I'm also amused at the RSOs when I move over to the 100-yard line and whip out my Glock.


Underwood ammo - 180gr Bonded HP $30/50

http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto180graingolddotjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx

Love the 10mm. My G20 is my favorite Glock.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:22:16 PM
You should reload for it. Not too many places carry it, and when they do it is expensive. Underwood looks good for full power loads. I bought a Dillon press so I could reload for the 10mm. So far, I've spent around $600 on all the things I need for loading, except for bullets. I'm going to get some tomorrow. I bought the press used for $300, then I had to get brass, primers, bullet puller, ultrasonic cleaner, scale, etc, etc. I am setting up my stuff this weekend to get started. It seems like a lot of money going in, but I will be able to reload for years with this machine, and I'll be able to use the brass several times. So I'll probably spend around .25 per round loading HP ammo and .13 cent round loading lead. That's not too bad. But I have a feeling I will start shooting a lot more, so I'll probably be buying plenty of bullets, primers, and powders going forward. I am having fun reading up on the different loads people are making and cant wait to get started.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 9:00:34 AM
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
People bitch but not that expensive. Reload and buy ammo when on sale. I snagged PPU 180 JHPs for $17.50 a box delivered. I can't buy walmart .45 that cheap.


That ammo is weak, very weak indeed. MV is just around 1000 FPS, maybe even less in stock Glock barrel. For 180 grain bullet, this velocity is weak.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 9:59:54 AM
It's higher than 9mm obviously, but not that bad compared to .45 and .357 mag. I don't reload so I only shoot factory ammo. I carry Doubletap 165 grain Gold Dot but my main range ammo is Remington 180 grain FMJ at about $30 for 50 rounds.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 11:53:22 AM
Originally Posted By StonerAR10:
Ammo is not that expensive. Ted Nugent uses it exclusivly to hunt over monst all other rounds. Buy Double Tap for defense and Underwood to practice. Its the most powerful round Glock makes.


Skip the Double Tap and buy Underwood. I just bought 300 rounds of the stuff and it is great. Underwood does not lie exaggerate about their velocities like Double Tap does. Yes I said it. Bought some Double Tap, chrono'ed and no where near what they claim on the box. Imagine THAT...!

Plus Underwood is quite a bit cheaper and still uses good HP projo's.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 1:47:57 PM
Originally Posted By Southrnshooter:
Originally Posted By StonerAR10:
Ammo is not that expensive. Ted Nugent uses it exclusivly to hunt over monst all other rounds. Buy Double Tap for defense and Underwood to practice. Its the most powerful round Glock makes.


Skip the Double Tap and buy Underwood. I just bought 300 rounds of the stuff and it is great. Underwood does not lie exaggerate about their velocities like Double Tap does. Yes I said it. Bought some Double Tap, chrono'ed and no where near what they claim on the box. Imagine THAT...!

Plus Underwood is quite a bit cheaper and still uses good HP projo's.


+1 Kevin is great to deal with. I still have an issue w/my G20 with about 1% FTE using full tilt loads(even with a 20#sping and s/s guide rod). I may have to send it in to Glock. The 10mm is a great caliber and extremely versatile.
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