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Posted: 7/1/2017 5:37:16 PM EDT
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Shitbags tend to be very alert. Or rather, often people who are shitbags are more alert.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 5:46:09 PM EDT
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Not going to say that I have an answer here, but I have thought about the same thing. As a CCW holder, it is fun sometimes to try to determine who around you might also be carrying. Similarly to your point, I always laugh a little on the inside when at USPSA or other shooting events and everyone else is wearing the uniform. You know what I am talking about, 5.11 pants/shorts, shirts assorted from "tactical" polos to "I have a bunch of company names on my shirt like I am sponsored or something...", and lastly but definitely not leastly, Salomon shoes.
But back to your point, that everytime I see someone out in the wild wearing 5.11 pants/shorts or Salomon shoes, They immediately get a check in my box for "possible carrier". And who is to say that someone looking to do harm isn't doing the same. Take that as you will, I am sure that some people will say that it will be a great deterrent, but others will say that it could make you a target. FWIW, I don't have any fancy "tactical" clothing as I have never seen the benefit over less expensive, normal clothing. If I want extra pockets on my shorts they are called cargo shorts and literally everyone makes them, even fancy places like Banana Republic. I am sure that someone will post something hissing at me and tell a story about how their tactical ripstop non-iron pants saved their life once... I guess I am just a fan of "if it is stupid but works, it isn't stupid". So regular clothes for me. The most I will do is wear my old USMC boots to the range. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 5:59:59 PM EDT
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About the extent of my Tactical wear is my belt that is hidden and my Adidas cross training trail shoes.
A lot of times when I see the guys wearing all the Tactical clothing it reminds me of the guys in high school who were posers or just trying to hard. I work with a guy like this who wear 5.11 pants, military style boots, carrys a Tactical pen that he flaunts everywhere, and always something new. He also weighs pretty close to 250 and is about 5'8". |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 6:36:27 PM EDT
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Its a double factor, yes you could be targeted because of the perceived resistance you may put up. Or it may help you avoid trouble because of the perceived resistance you may put up. You could always wear one of those dude rompers if you wanna look lefty.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 6:41:06 PM EDT
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Not going to say that I have an answer here, but I have thought about the same thing. As a CCW holder, it is fun sometimes to try to determine who around you might also be carrying. Similarly to your point, I always laugh a little on the inside when at USPSA or other shooting events and everyone else is wearing the uniform. You know what I am talking about, 5.11 pants/shorts, shirts assorted from "tactical" polos to "I have a bunch of company names on my shirt like I am sponsored or something...", and lastly but definitely not leastly, Salomon shoes.  . Salomon shoes I consider PPE if you're trying to go fast because they do help you maintain stability. They hold so well that I think they helped to cause my knee problems.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 6:49:26 PM EDT
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I look at tactical cloths the same way I look at spandex bike apparel. Gay.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 6:50:40 PM EDT
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The dreaded "shoot me first" vest.
No thanks. I look pretty non-tactical out in public. Jeans, Carhartts, or something like that. I just work for a living or got back from hiking. Nothing tactical here, move along. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 7:15:27 PM EDT
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Just wear a pocket T, with some duluth firehose pants. add a pair of suspenders. you get all your tacticool pockets, but look like a farmer.
(and the suspenders keep your rosco from sagging your pants.)
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Posted: 7/1/2017 7:22:58 PM EDT
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I tink you'd look silly.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:48:39 PM EDT
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Cops and protective service people will scan people with their eyes to see if they are carrying weapons. That is their job. The rest of the population have no idea if joe doe carry a gun. I have time where half of my pistol (OWB) was showing and not one person notice it. A lot of people are concern about printing but I can tell you it is overblown. People general don't move their eyes toward people wristband and if they do they think it is a cell phone or some kind of tools and not a gun.
Don't believe me? Try carrying a full size pistol in OWB for a few weeks. It is the person carrying the gun that is subconscious of himself carrying a gun. The general population will have no idea you're carrying a gun. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 9:54:23 PM EDT
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Only time I wear 5.11 shit is at work, other than that it's jeans and a tshirt along with hiking boots. I love the 300# guy in his XXXL 5.11 shirt and matching pants.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 10:36:54 PM EDT
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I am a former Marine. OIF deployments. I can smoke a 2 gun competition.
I'll bet you a thousand dollars that no one ever looks at the skinny younger guy wearing J Crew and thinks "He's got a gun and can use it". I like it that way. YMMV. I carry a gun in order to be safe while living the life that I want to live, but it seems many folks carry a gun merely because that is the life they want to live. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:02:39 PM EDT
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I look at tactical cloths the same way I look at spandex bike apparel. Gay. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:04:09 PM EDT
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Its a double factor, yes you could be targeted because of the perceived resistance you may put up. Or it may help you avoid trouble because of the perceived resistance you may put up. You could always wear one of those dude rompers if you wanna look lefty. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:12:28 PM EDT
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No-one, not even my friends have any idea. I wear a boonie hat, black Sitka zip pullover, Dickies blue jeans and Asolo hiking boots.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:15:59 PM EDT
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Myself? I carry concealed and make it discreet.
I have a pile of hats and t-shirts from Larue, Noveske, Nightforce, Aimpoint, holster makers, Hornady, etc. I only wear it at the range or when I'm flying. The 5.11 crowd always struck me as dipshits. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:36:29 PM EDT
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I'm a fan of football and hockey jerseys. Could conceal a desert eagle, and nobody would suspect. They just think you're a tool for wearing a jersey.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:40:06 PM EDT
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Well, I am gay myself so perhaps it would help me attract people to mate with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I look at tactical cloths the same way I look at spandex bike apparel. Gay. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:58:10 PM EDT
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Well, I am gay myself so perhaps it would help me attract people to mate with.  just saying.
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Posted: 7/2/2017 8:58:41 AM EDT
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Anytime I see a guy wearing one of those canvas and mesh vests, I just assume he's carrying. Glock t-shirt? Carrying. Meanwhile I'm in shorts and flip flops and a non-gun tshirt with a BHP concealed OWB.
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Posted: 7/2/2017 9:25:49 AM EDT
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I carry a gun in order to be safe while living the life that I want to live, but it seems many folks carry a gun merely because that is the life they want to live. With carrying. I just carry. It's like putting on my shoes. It's not about enjoyment, a statement, or whatever. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 9:37:41 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the responses.
Lately I've found cargo pants very comfortable but I think I am going to as a practice start trying to look less tactical to blend in better, and keep the more tactical clothes for fishing and hunting trips. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 9:42:40 AM EDT
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I wear cargo pants whether I'm carrying or not. No place to put my wallet and cell phone and I'm not going to put it in my back pocket because it screws my back up.
And fuck jeans. Generic cargo pants + button up shirt + hiking boots isn't all that tacticool. Around here, it's "dressing well." To fit in as a "working stiff" around here, I'd have to wear dirty jeans, straw cowboy hat, belt buckle the size of a spartan shield and cowboy boots. No thanks. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 10:04:33 AM EDT
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I read this as you looking like a guy I went to school with. He was eat up with military just about everything.
The look is fine if you're 8. I hope I have the wrong impression. Lots of people wear cargo pants, it is one of the best sellers at many clothing stores. Add a vest and or a pair of 5.11 or Magnums, then you have a spectacle. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 10:07:25 AM EDT
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No-one, not even my friends have any idea. I wear a boonie hat, black Sitka zip pullover, Dickies blue jeans and Asolo hiking boots. 
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Posted: 7/2/2017 10:53:11 AM EDT
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I purposely dress down while off duty. Heck, it's Florida. Everyone dresses like they are on holiday or just woke up.
I sometimes feel like I'm working Narcotics again with what I wear. 
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Posted: 7/2/2017 11:03:39 AM EDT
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I see guys dressed like that in a CCW state and 1) assume they probably have a gun and 2) wonder which IT department they work in.
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Posted: 7/2/2017 11:41:51 AM EDT
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But back to your point, that everytime I see someone out in the wild wearing 5.11 pants/shorts or Salomon shoes, They immediately get a check in my box for "possible carrier". |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 11:44:45 AM EDT
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I read this as you looking like a guy I went to school with. He was eat up with military just about everything. The look is fine if you're 8. I hope I have the wrong impression. Lots of people wear cargo pants, it is one of the best sellers at many clothing stores. Add a vest and or a pair of 5.11 or Magnums, then you have a spectacle. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 11:46:04 AM EDT
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I wear lightweight 5.11 cargo pants at work because it's hot as fuck outside and I can carry shit that I need. CCW is forbidden though.
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Posted: 7/2/2017 2:08:44 PM EDT
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I wear the hell out of the khaki color 5.11 shorts in the summer... with t-shirts or nondescript polo and running shoes.
I've never had anyone notice I'm carrying... at least not obviously. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 2:16:07 PM EDT
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I have to admit a dude romber would not be very suspicious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its a double factor, yes you could be targeted because of the perceived resistance you may put up. Or it may help you avoid trouble because of the perceived resistance you may put up. You could always wear one of those dude rompers if you wanna look lefty. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 2:28:07 PM EDT
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I own 5.11 boots cause I like the side zips and work requires safety toes, and wear a Larue hat cause I think they're damn comfortable. Otherwise blue jeans and tee shirts. I wear that whether I'm carrying or not so hopefully that doesn't make me more of a target.
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Posted: 7/2/2017 2:39:55 PM EDT
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What if they were open carrying? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its a double factor, yes you could be targeted because of the perceived resistance you may put up. Or it may help you avoid trouble because of the perceived resistance you may put up. You could always wear one of those dude rompers if you wanna look lefty. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 3:34:43 PM EDT
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No place to put my wallet and cell phone and I'm not going to put it in my back pocket because it screws my back up. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 3:52:42 PM EDT
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I wear under armour storm pants and regular tees all the time i hate denim especially in the texas heat
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Posted: 7/3/2017 2:33:08 AM EDT
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Carrying a gun doesn't screw your back up? |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 2:50:58 AM EDT
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Button snap long sleeve shirt, combed rapidly greying hair, 501's, Double H boots (not square toe, those are gay), and a IWB 1911. I dress the same way I did before I started carrying everyday. I wear a Geissele hat sometimes, but nobody knows what the big "G" stands for, they probably think it's a minor league ball team or something.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 3:59:03 AM EDT
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A wallet in your back pocket will put uneven pressure on your spine. If you sit down with a gun around 3 o'clock it's on your side so won't generally put pressure on your spine like a wallet would |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 5:52:26 AM EDT
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I've been carrying my wallet in a front pocket for some time now, but I don't recall having any issues when it was in a back pocket. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A wallet in your back pocket will put uneven pressure on your spine. If you sit down with a gun around 3 o'clock it's on your side so won't generally put pressure on your spine like a wallet would My wallet is for cards only so it's very thin. I also don't sit much so I don't have much to worry about. Ymmv |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 6:06:34 AM EDT
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Shitbags tend to be very alert. Or rather, often people who are shitbags are more alert. I've worn 5.11 stuff around before in a very anti gun state and never been "made." I also almost got a date at the butcher shop with a guy who thought I was an off duty forest ranger  edit I even have a couple of jackets that have little loops for the microphone that attaches to a police wallow talkie and the Zippers on the side for a police officer to allow his pistol to be exposed through his coat. No one pays any attention.
I once helped a bunch of off duty cops clearing brush and trees on a farm. One of them did bust my balls because I had 5.11 style pants. I helped one of them pick up supplies and later that evening we were going into a bar/restaurant ( it's not technically illegal to carry in a bar here but certainly a big problem if you get caught) so I took out my Glock to lock it in his car and he went  I've been with the same guy when he told me he spotted people carrying befoee and he's pointed out things like people working as drug look outs in big cities. He asked "you had a gun on you all day?!"
I don't wear that stuff much now that I live in a less rural area where I am worried about mire uptight anti gun cops and I never wore those fishing vests, fanny packs or t shirts with gun stuff. But I could probably wear nothing but 5.11/vertyx style tactical stuff and never get made. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 6:14:31 AM EDT
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Depending on how big your wallet is and how bad your back is, + how long you sit I could see potential for problems. My wallet is for cards only so it's very thin. I also don't sit much so I don't have much to worry about. Ymmv  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 6:22:44 AM EDT
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Quote History so I don't have to sit on it. My stupid pistol permit is now equal to four credit cards by itself
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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:34:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2017 8:24:36 AM EDT
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I wear cargo pants whether I'm carrying or not. No place to put my wallet and cell phone and I'm not going to put it in my back pocket because it screws my back up. And fuck jeans. Generic cargo pants + button up shirt + hiking boots isn't all that tacticool. Around here, it's "dressing well." To fit in as a "working stiff" around here, I'd have to wear dirty jeans, straw cowboy hat, belt buckle the size of a spartan shield and cowboy boots. No thanks. Don't like jeans? I haven't worn them for nearly a year either. Just not comfortable I guess. Haven't missed them. Though if you don't like jeans. Try fabric softener. I once accidentally washed some jeans with a cup of fabric softener instead of detergent. Those fucking jeans were lamb-soft for months.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 10:35:03 AM EDT
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On occasion I'll wear Taclite Pros or Apex pants from 5.11 along with a thin cotton Under Armour shirt and Merrell boots or Salomon shoes while carrying IWB. Other times it's American Eagle jeans, square toed boots or the above mentioned footwear, and the same type of shirt or a button down shirt with the sleeves rolled up. On a couple occasions I've gotten "The Nod" from uniformed cops, but I've never had a negative experience while carrying out and about. In wintertime I've worn my Taclite Pros, Danner Acadias, a knit beanie and a brown Wolverine jacket. The G19 worn OWB doesn't even have a footprint, but the pseudo outdoors tactical clothes kind of become the norm when it's cold here, so I don't think I register on anyone's radar.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:31:01 AM EDT
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Tribal identity is a basic part of human nature. Some folk who identify as members of the 'shooting' or 'tactical' community see it as a tribal thing, and it shows up in how they dress, wear their hair, etc. Not terribly different from a sociological perspective from guys who wear jerseys to represent "their" team or such. I think some folk can carry it to silly extremes, but I can't say that I worry about it much myself.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:55:10 AM EDT
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I just like my 5.11 stryke pants and boots bc they are comfortable. Cooler than jeans and provide some stretch.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:57:32 AM EDT
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If you see me in my "tactical" outfit ( A pair of beat to shit boots, jeans and a tshirt) always know that I am concealing an expanding thick penetration weapon inside my waistband.
Usually I have no problems in jeans and a tshirt with a P07 and a reload or my Shield .45 with a reload. On the rare days I wear shorts I use the LCP. I don't dress the "part" or advertise that I am anything other than a typical west TX dude out doing mundane crap. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 12:42:55 PM EDT
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